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“I think even just the world, from the first movie to the second movie, the world has shifted so much,” Levi added on “The FilmUp Podcast.” “Social media has shifted so much. Hate, online hate and haters and trolls, and factions and all that has just gotten more galvanized in its toxicity. I think there are people who genuinely, unfortunately, want to destroy certain projects because they don’t like them, or they don’t like me, or they don’t like other people involved in them or whatever.” I agree with him on that. The thing is people only start having a problem with that when the hate is directed at the things they like.

Well, it also topped the box office during its opening weekend. Doesn't mean the $ was good.

If this flops, how much of a disaster it would be for Universal and Peacock considering they paid $400 million for the rights to make this new trilogy?

In my opinion, it’s a mix of both Barbenheimer stealing all the attention and MI7’s own fault for looking like more of the same. I’ve been saying that for weeks before release, that the movie would probably disappoint because it looked repetitive, and post-pandemic audiences are rejecting theatrical releases that don’t feel like anything special. The competition from last weekend’s openers definitely hurt its chances of recovery with good word of mouth. It was hard for good reception to spread when everyone was already obsessed with Barbie and Oppenheimer, even if those were from different genres. But MI7 also underperformed in its own opening, so the movie had its own problems. That’s not to say it wasn’t well received by those who went to see it, well received movies failing to have great legs at the box office is not new.

I think it looks interesting

If WB really delays Dune 2 and Aquaman 2 do you think this would have been successful in either of those dates?

I’m happy for Greta, Margot, America Ferrera, and all women involved, but conservatives being outraged and trying to boycott Barbie only makes these numbers even more satisfying 🥳 It would be cool if it holds the record for biggest opening of the year, and biggest WB opening of all time.

We’re from the same city … kind of. I have a place there but I actually live in a small town over 300km away. I always go to Fortaleza to watch movies in IMAX.

Looks great to me. I can’t wait. It’s the first Marvel movie I’m watching in theaters since Eternals.

If there's one movie that could replicate Barbie's social media obsession I think it could be this one.

"And to some, the fact that Warners is willing to keep spending money to make the film better shows that the studio has faith in The Lost Kingdom. (In February, according to sources, the filmmakers of Blue Beetle, the other remaining DC movie that was made during the AT&T era and comes out in August, asked for two days of additional shooting but the studio turned them down. Safran had also been a producer on Beetle before his ascension to the executive ranks.)" Aquaman and the Lost Kingdom: Behind the Reshoots – The Hollywood Reporter 😬

Stop the count

It's not throwing money away if the studio sees that as a long term investment, in which they inflate this movie's numbers, get a ton of headlines, and so get a lot of people's attention, turning many of them into loyal supporters of their projects. I see people mentioning $5 million in Pay It Forward tickets, but on their website they claim to have gotten over 8,4 million donated tickets, and they're charging $15 per ticket. Wouldn't that be more than $126 million raised?

Love to see Grace being so popular. I know she can be messy sometimes but to me she's a Wendy Williams kind of messy, in a way I just can't dislike her. She's always so joyful. I'd rather watch Grace than some mean-spirited movie critics / insiders out there.

The way she kept a straight face at the "a milennial killed my dog" part is Oscar-worthy alone ☠️

Their commitment in promoting the movie themselves when WB wouldn't is cute, maybe they should take a note from the QAnon and start buying multiple tickets "for other people"

I made a post (if not in last weekend's thread, the one before) about the signs pointing to Dead Reckoning disappointing. Numbers are showing that audiences are not being excited for franchise movies that don't seem to offer a new experience, and M:I7 was probably one of the biggest offenders this summer. The trailers made it seem repetitive, both visually and narratively. Even the new character played by Hayley Atwell felt like something we've seen before. That stunt that was heavily promoted also wasn't that impressive. Critic reception is better than I was expecting (it's almost a miracle that Cruise and McQuarrie pulled yet another over 94% RT score), but that clearly wasn't enough to convince audiences this is a must see. As much as we would like to see box office prediction objectively, truth is sometimes things will happen that don't make sense when we look at all the metrics, but I learned a lesson when War for the Planet of the Apes (2017) had a significant drop from its unanimously praised predecessor, despite getting the best reviews in the franchise. Sometimes a movie just fails to be exciting despite everything working in its favor. I'm a huge fan of the recent M:I movies, but if I needed the marketing campaign to sell me on Dead Reckoning Part 1, it's unlikely that it would have been one of my most anticipated this year. I was only confident in it because of how great the previous two movies were.

It was Gunn's choice to make an R-rated, gory Suicide Squad sequel, and having been granted a $185 million budget, he knew what the studio needed it to make at the box office. It was a mistake of judgment that he could very well repeat with the Superman Legacy concept. I, personally, am not worried for the quality of the film, because Gunn, much like Zack Snyder to me, is a filmmaker with complete control of his craft. In my opinion, people have a problem with their style and concept, not the execution. They're both great at executing their vision with perfection. I'm sure I'll like the movie because I'm a Superman fan that's actually open to different takes on the character (I love Superman The Movie, Superman Returns and Man Of Steel almost equally). But as far as box office and audience reception, I think he is in a tricky situation, because there will be insane expectations that his vision could very well not be able to reach.

Curious about the deleted scenes, though it's not common for studios to actually release meaningful deleted material from movies that were significantly changed in reshoots (I'm still dying to see what the original cuts of Dark Phoenix and 2016's Suicide Squad were like), so I don't think they'll reveal the alternative endings of The Flash.

I really like The Suicide Squad, for me it's one of the 5 best DCEU movies, but it got a B+ cinemascore and a huge -71.5% second weekend drop (much bigger than even all the other day and date releases that year). While I wouldn't say that means the movie was completely rejected, I also can't look at those numbers and say the movie was praised by audiences.

Comic books are also a struggling media that barely benefitted from the popularity of the movie adaptations in these last 10+ years, and part of the reason is that they are inaccessible to potential new readers. So it makes sense that people here get concerned about some creative decisions even if it's something comic book fans are used to. With that said, I really don't think a Superman introductory movie can't have multiple other DC heroes. I always defended Batman v Superman and Justice League from those types of criticisms. People create arbitrary rules for these movies based on what worked for the MCU, but it makes no sense. It's a film, and a film can have multiple main characters that weren't introduced to audiences in their solo movies before. Movies like that exist and they worked, so there's no reason to believe James Gunn can't make a great Superman movie that has multiple other DC heroes in it. But a lot of fans who used those rules to attack the earlier DCEU movies are now gonna be on the defensive side of the argument, and that's interesting, though also I'm exhausted with this division in the fandom and with all the negativity from people who will always root against DC.

Some editing choices and tone shifts make the movie weird (as opposed to how slick and grounded the previous two were), and the ending is not satisfying as it doesn't resolve the plot - but at least they were honest with the "Part One" in the title.

I didn't love this at first viewing like I did Rogue Nation and Fallout. I'm curious to see how other fans of the franchise will react. I wouldn't be surprised if reception with fans is more divisive than it has been with critics.

Looks like there's still potential in the Transformers franchise. This movie opened better than The Flash and Indiana Jones, and is having good late legs, despite not receiving much attention on social media and in the press, before and after its release.