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For years we were saying, it was impossible for a movie to gross more than 100m on OW in December... We are pretty new to what a "normal" movie is supposed to do in December after opening to $200m. But here is something to think about: Age of Ultron did 80% of the Multiplier "The Avengers" did. TFA did a 3,77 multiplier. 80% of it is exactly 3.0 or about $660m for TLJ. Another example: The Dark Knight was the Hyped movie and did a 3,3 Mult. The Dark Knight rises did 82% of that. Hype, no Hype. Pretty consistant there...
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No, that's surely not what the post is implicating. I expected TLJ to drop to $725 in my yearly forecast, that's what I can give you. My post above has nothing to do with it, though. It's about the facts I know now. That's why I called the run explainable. I can't explain something based on a forecast. I did not know it all along, but I think I understand some factors leading to its run now.
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Yeah. I'm wrong. Just like when I expected it to have a jump in the 69-80% range. Where I, to be honest, was wrong, too, but hey, that's how things go. What do I know about BO. Do I think, that reception played its part? Of course I do. The movie had a lot of press, that wasn't kind. Things went perfect for TFA and I also think, that Disney got a bit sloppy there with marketing. Also, a movie a year takes the premium out of the franchise. RO lived off the rest of thy hype, created by TFA but now TLJ is feeling it. Again, we need to realize, in which dimensions we are talking here. Somewhere around 65 Mil people will have seen TLJ in theaters in the USA when all is said and done. This is huge. And it will not get smaller, only because 22m saw it in the first 3 1/2 days. It's still a huge cultural happening, it's just one, that lost some audience on its way, that was never going to be able to hold up to TFA.
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People need to understand, that TLJ is just doing what it can as a movie, that wasn't able to create a comparable hype with the General Audience. I said it before. Everything it does is quite normal. Only because TFA did 900m, it doesn't mean, that every hyped up housewife, that saw TFA, was going to come back for a second time. Hype creates an audience, that would usually not see the movie. That's how things go and with an additional amount of competition in 2017, TLJs run ist completely explainable. It's still doing $650m - $700m, still more, than JW, that was a movie going on hype. This only shows, how big of a base audience SW has. It's "small" compared to TFA, but come on, SPider Man doing $400m wasn't a bad number, just because Titanic did $600m a couble of years earlier.
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TFA and RO had 80% and 69% increases. Why should TLJ jump 120% now? Only because some movie did so 11 years ago? The bigger the scale gets, the slower the increases. We can't forget, that RO and TFA are a league of their own over the holidays in terms of dailies by a huge margin. $30m-$32m on Monday and $35m-$37m should be the expected marks for TLJ.
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Thursday #s: TLJ 17.8M, Jumanji 7.55M, TGS 2.1M
Poseidon replied to grim22's topic in Numbers and Data
Can I have RTH as a single person, because he actually knows how to behave and isn't insulting people left and right on his way through this place. -
Thursday #s: TLJ 17.8M, Jumanji 7.55M, TGS 2.1M
Poseidon replied to grim22's topic in Numbers and Data
That's a better number for TLJ. 7,6m for Jumanji would be great. Also, 1,7m for Ferdinand is really strong. -
Thursday #s: TLJ 17.8M, Jumanji 7.55M, TGS 2.1M
Poseidon replied to grim22's topic in Numbers and Data
They lost a lot of screens to Jumanji and Greatest Showman yesterday. -
Wednesday #s: TLJ 16.9M, Jumanji 7.2M, Greatest Snowman 2.45M
Poseidon replied to YM!'s topic in Numbers and Data
Comparing SW to other movies in 2006 probably just doesn't work. It's a huge blockbuster, so expecting it to have a 15% jump on thursday like all the other movies just doesn't seem likely on that scale. It's still posting huge daily numbers, but pretty much every blockbuster of that scale is going down on dailies compared to "normal" releases. "Only" jumping 4% is what I would consider quite normal. This is not TFA. TFA was that 1 in 10 years movie. -
Wednesday #s: TLJ 16.9M, Jumanji 7.2M, Greatest Snowman 2.45M
Poseidon replied to YM!'s topic in Numbers and Data
According to "The Numbers", TLJ made $16,9m yesterday. Solid. It's your average big blockbuster sequel after a huge start. https://www.the-numbers.com/daily-box-office-chart -
Wednesday #s: TLJ 16.9M, Jumanji 7.2M, Greatest Snowman 2.45M
Poseidon replied to YM!'s topic in Numbers and Data
Oh look, another example of why RT is useless. Jumanji, your rated fresh Family-Movie of the season, sitting at 79% with a 6,2 avg, while The greatest Showman sits at 48% with a 6,0. This is so wrong... -
The Box Office Buzz and Tracking Thread: Electric Boogaloo
Poseidon replied to grim22's topic in Numbers and Data
It barely sold anything for the Arclight Locations, though.... -
It could have been a part of the future, but even Cameron is helpless when it comes to greedy studiobosses. Still, with decent Quality, 3D Percentages grew even in the not so recent past. The Martian had some pretty decent 3D share if I remeber correctly.