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Overboard did 90m ! Home again got close to 3.3 legs with a 33% RT score. IS the next Lopez movie one ? (Does not seem to have much romantic element in trailer), because that could be ultimate classic one and give a good idea where the genre is.

They tend to have very lean and smaller marketing department and budget for release relative to a big studio, a bit famously the last 2 HG had only 50m total for the domestic release, at that time Sony was spending over 160-180m on the marketing of a Spider-Man movie and around 90m just for domestic theatrical alone, for movies with quite the product placement partnership deal amount to help them reduce cost. Not sure if it changed since, but they made an article on how that marketing head work: https://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/24/business/media/hunger-games-studio-lionsgate-punches-above-its-hollywood-weight.html The guy in charge is a bit famous to be money efficient and use cheap online opportunity in the movie marketing world, one of the first if not the first to buy ads in porn for a "mainstream" movie for example: https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/lionsgate-marketing-guru-branding-hunger-836251 https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/success-saw-franchise-121268

I have not seen that many but it didn't felt like a classic rom-com at all. They start already fully in love They never break up, there is never any conflict between them and there is never any will they / won't they end up together game The conflict are all exterior to them, more like a Titanic type, with the rich and the not-rich. The stake and conflict take maybe a bit too long to appear, being a book some fan service just like plugging the twins in there type of moment hurt the pace for the non-readers, a lot of it felt like an ostentatious publicity for Singapour and HSBC, probably got them nice tax credit or investment from here, it was at least well done and not something I am use to see. For the most part it work just really well, particularly when Constance Wu is on screen, I do not think I ever saw her before and I will probably watch fresh off the boat, it is a star making type of performance, not sure the male lead worked has well too, some pace and lack of stake by moments, I lacked the knowledge to follow some of it, like the board game at the end I assume she played on the mom fear of loosing in the game as well than in real life (loosing her son relationship) being stronger than the desire to win the perfect wife for her son and so on, but I could not tell what was going on. Performances of the cast in general elevated the material, production design as well and it was well shot for the genre. p.s. The poker beginning made no sense at all, someone with 2 pair fold on an all-in when he will be left with such a small amount that he forfeit the game after ? what !?

Not sure if there was any update since, but the first talk was about a distributing for a fee only deal. So I guess they still need to find co-financier elsewhere (maybe with them but can be with anyone I imagine). Bombed for Alcon more than for Sony or WB (apparently Sony was involved in the movie financing but not WB at all, they were pure distributor and that movie made little for it's budget but not so much he could not cover is marketing): https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/blade-runner-2049-losses-could-hit-80-million-producer-alcon-1055855 The studio is the first to get back any revenue in exchange for giving up a bigger slice of back-end profits. The deal is proving to be fortuitous for Sony, which in addition to co-financing Blade Runner 2049 is releasing it overseas. (The film is being handled in North America by Warner Bros. via its long-standing distribution deal with Alcon. Warners is not a co-financier.)

With the movie starting with this is real and some of it is real shit, I thought they took some liberty and didn't know which was true which was not, the bomb storyline. the love story storyline are both made up, the white cop being jewish for example. I thought this part was false (him doing the security part I would have thought maybe true but him pushing the risk for no reason would not), but the reason why and how much contact he decided to have with him to be quite different. https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/wd4gym/we-talked-to-the-black-undercover-cop-who-infiltrated-the-kkk-in-colorado Reading is version in that article, it is really close to the movie I imagine you cannot have someone that decide to infiltrate the KKK like that and not be someone reckless with a different love for useless risk taking than the average human.

I was not talking about prediction, more the feeling despite is certain popularity in the US (were Cannes I imagine is nearly 100% irrelevant) it could still have been seen has a movie that could have used the Cannes platform for marketing in the movie were Canne matter. But it is true that it does not even need Intl at all anyway.

I imagine some people know they will watch anything remotely Star Wars related instead of passing it, being too hard for them not to with some collector/completist mindset, so they complain knowing they have to watch everything so everything need to be for them ?

That is possible, but Lee and that subject matter is not particularly popular in markets that care about Cannes (unlike the Coens), without Denzel I am not sure he ever reached 12m Intl, the movie could still have used the boost. It is hard to make generality at cannes too, considering it is always different people deciding but Malick, Micheal Moore, Gus Van Sant won in recent year's. Palme d'Or Winners: United States 18 Italy 12 France 10 United Kingdom 10 Japan 5

That a really good point there.

1) lot of people thought those movie were great, Spotlight was one of the time I had the most fun in a movie theater. Closest it got to The Wire in recent time in a movie for me. 2) People will see it before having any clue if it win Best Picture or not, it has nothing to do about enjoying it or not, depending of what you mean by I wanna know if it good or not and I'll enjoy it. 3) You are on a box office message board, so I think it is correct that from time to time you do care about how much a movie make at the box office, right ? Why ? It can help to put you in the shoes of someone that would care if a movie win BP or not, to transfer pretty much the same reason's you care about a movie box office success to a movie award success. Would it be rational, like thinking about the kind of incentive it create has a result, the budget/freedom it can give to the people involved future projects, etc... or completely irrational like when you care about who/which team/country win some sport competition.

True still didn't win too, and a lot of the jury lived in the US/Canada if not born there, more than 10% of the voting group was Ava DuVernay after all. It did got beat by a movie with a 93 Metascore and beat a movie with a 71. It has a good chance, maybe even higher than 20% to win, but I do not think it is some unbeatable movie easy to declare winner even before the awards season started. Put it that way, if tomorrow the book maker open the bet in your country, even with a giant 5:1 line I do not think Futurist would bet a big amount of money on it, he is purely trolling.

Has for now yes, has of now the company is not taking into account, you must release in theater the first day the movie is available to the wide public and stay a certain amount of time in enough paying theater in a county of Los angeles and you are in (if you are long enough to be a feature film) Nothing more than that.

They do not count TV or.... Taraji P. Henson Empire + movies + career library residuals + her makeup collection and product placement + voice works does not add up to 10m...

I am not sure why you make such claim with such level of confidence. 82 on MC is limit nowaday, outside some technical tour de force a la Revenant/Life of Pi. BD Shape of water: 87 la la land: 93 Revenant: 76 Birdman: 88 Gravity: 96 Life of pi: 79 Artist: 89 King Speech: 88 Hurt locker: 94 A best picture below 85 on metacritic, that didn't happen in a very long time, since the infamous Crash win. BP: Shape of water: 87 Moonlight: 99 Spotlight: 93 Birdman: 88 12 year's: 96 Argo: 86 Artist: 89 King Speech: 88 Hurt locker: 94 Slumdog: 86 No country: 91 Departed: 85 Crash: 69 It does not have the critical acclaim going for it, and the group of voters is more and more international with the big influx of the last year's, the theme could not have much resonance with them and some of the powerful moment a bit lost.

I don't think they are expected to be happy or to even consider watching this. This is really obviously made for really young kids watching the Disney channel cartoons no ?

2011 Poo movie was still made with cel animation I think, by hand not using shaders.

It obviously targetting the under 15 / new generation so it is probably by design that it is not feeling like Star Wars at all. The aesthetic, the voice, the tone, the content, the pace, the score/sound, there is very little link about that trailer and this:

Many did https://pro.boxoffice.com/long-range-forecast-jurassic-world-fallen-kingdom-ant-man-wasp-updates-early-look-meg/ 8/10/2018 The Meg $14,000,000 NEW $37,000,000 NEW Warner Bros. I see a lot of under 60m for the total dbo prediction in The Meg thread, even Under Valerian speculation I saw has low has 13/30, 15/35, July 30, was still tracking: Tracking for a $18-23M opening according to Variety.

The pre-sales on fandango were really west-coast heavy.

Now imagine in 2020 or 2021 how little it will matter to the GA (maybe a bit more than it did for Ant-Man and Edgar Wright, Wright is much more beloved obviously but being a sequel make it a little bit bigger on the Gunn side) and we remember how little it did matter for Ant-Man. But it could really matter for which director that would accept the gig (when talking about extremely rich people with many opportunity and project already planned in that window a la Waititi, Russos an co.),

LS was the first of the bunch. It will be 3 commercial miss in a row, the first 2 miss were quite the good movies too. At least deepwater horizon was popular on physical media rental: https://pmcdeadline2.files.wordpress.com/2018/04/mpaa-theme-report-2017.pdf A top 10 in 2017 despite missing the top 50 at the box office in 2016. Not sure I fully understand why Patriot Day didn't work better, Deepwater Horizon being a 156m production with little international appeal was an obvious huge risk, but a Trent Reznor / Peter Berg / Walhberg movie that good, green on metacritic and everything that end with Big Papy at the Feinway park moment that does not come close to make half of what The Fighter did..... That a really harsh market place for the 45m movie right now.

Not sure I get that part, Sony choosing between R and PG-13 is all about how much creative want which and how much their model expectation of total revenues for each rating look like.

Shoot seem to have been only 58 days, with apparently only 8 of them in San Francisco city location, it certainly do look cheap. Even then, it does sound massaged down quite a bit. A movie like The Big Short with a 49.55m gross budget, it end up on box office mojo at $28m: https://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=bigshort.htm 22 Jump street had a gross of 84.5m and a net cost of 66m, yet it still show up at 50m on mojo. Would imagine something a bit similar here, a 68m gross, 52.8m net rounded down to 40.

That was my point (i.e. you cannot just look at numbers with some rules if a movie in its run make more than x it mean y and so on)

What the trailer views ?