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  1. Looking at the first jumanji performance: Studio* Filter BV Dim. Fox Gold. Gram. MGM Mira. NL Par. Sav. Sony Uni. WB ALL Worldwide Domestic / % Overseas / % 1 Toy Story BV $373.6 $191.8 51.3% $181.8 48.7% 6 Batman Forever WB $336.5 $184.0 54.7% $152.5 45.3% 3 Apollo 13 Uni. $353.5 $172.1 48.7% $181.4 51.3% 5 Pocahontas BV $346.1 $141.6 40.9% $204.5 59.1% 13 Ace Ventura: When Nature Calls WB $212.4 $108.4 51.0% $104.0 49.0% 4 GoldenEye MGM $352.2 $106.4 30.2% $245.8 69.8% 10 Jumanji Sony $262.8 $100.5 38.2% $162.3 61.8% 8 Casper Uni. $287.9 $100.3 34.8% $187.6 65.2% 7 Seven NL $327.3 $100.1 30.6% $227.2 69.4% 2 Die Hard: With A Vengeance Fox $366.1 $100.0 27.3% $266.1 72.7% 20 Crimson Tide BV $157.4 $91.4 58.1% $66.0 41.9% Seem to have been a nice fudging year. It is a nice increase from #10 WW to #5 on it's sequel. Force Awaken I would imagine did a bigger jump ?
  2. Matters for theater owner for sure, I think it was meant to size the box office phenomenon, it is unfair to wipe away a movie achievement to sell it's ticket at an higher average price, I doubt we would do it as easily when comparing an high price Disney classic movie with movie rebate bin sales for Dvds or rented on redbox. And other good way to look at Titanic run is to compare with the giants phenomenon that were the first Star Wars in decade and the first Potter movies, as giant franchise phenomenon as we get today, had an hard time to make half of Titanic. Phantom Menace all had the same condition that Titanic had, competition feared it even more, not being a surprise success, also had really great legs, didn't even came close. I doubt anyone old enough to have been conscious in 1998 would doubt or even have to think about it that Titanic was a much bigger phenomenon than anything that was released in 2018, in absolute term and relative to the market place.
  3. No career, almost no formal education except some basic economics class and free online course on coursera, mostly books and having most of my money invested in the stock market. I got interested in the movie business side (and a little bit by box office in extension), after seeing how wrong I got about Netflix stock/prospect around 2012/2013 (I thought it could be a good pick to short.... lol) and trying to find what could be the next one, Liongates at the time at some plan's to start a streaming platform in China and I started to read their annuals report of them and others. For the individual movie side, it is by reading a lot of the leaked sony stuff, revenues/expense/profit for different performances at the box office expectation for a lot of different movies and looking at the actual result of what they did, even if every movie is a bit is own story, there is general pattern and rules of thumb that emerge. Never worked in the movie business in any way and I would assume that it would rapidly show if an actual world distributor accounting is reading any of what I wrote (i.e. should be taken for someone that is just trying to interpret by is own accounting figures leaks).
  4. It would be better if your argument would come with numbers. (no one would say that a movie was released without competition if it was released against the new James Bond in 2018...) I have not read everything, but you have a couple of good points, gross is what matter over admission, people ready to pay PLF tickets, excited enough that they do not wait for Thursday or matinee cheaper ticket is a testimony to the product appeal and will hurt rewatch sales and sales in generals. Now if we look only at the gross and not admissions, Titanic made $2,844,952,887.20 2018 dollar in it's initial run, without adjusting for global market increase it is still bigger than pretty much everything except Avatar. Id say the Chinese market isn’t big enough to make up for the loss that’s been caused by the internet. Are you sure of that ? Maybe not in revenues but in box office the raise of the International market.... Attendance by capita went down a bit, but total attendance was not specially that higher in 1990, was usually less than the 2010: We have a 40b world box office now, it was what around 13-15b when Titanic was released ? I would like to see the argument that it didn't not only compensate but more than made up for it. People just waiting for movies to hit their TV exist since TV became popular in the 50s when theatrical got almost destroyed, didn't change much since.
  5. That payment, combined with the pre-sales of distribution rights in the Reserved Territories and other co-financing proceeds for Iron Man and The Incredible Hulk, equals 33% of those films’ budgets. Because of the requirement that we fund 33% of future films, we therefore expect to be in compliance, without any further action on our part, with the Pre-Sale Test when it is first applied (upon funding of the fifth film) and at all relevant times thereafter. https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/933730/000136231009002976/c81637e10vk.htm Seem to have been raising 33% by pre-sales and co-financier, a bit different than your usual independant movie that often need to raise 80-85% before getting the rest from a bank loan. Yeah not only they were nice big success, I am unsure that the timeline work either.
  6. Good on metacritic as well: http://www.metacritic.com/movie/superfly/critic-reviews 8 pos, 5 mixed, 2 negative, 56 MC score.
  7. I kind of doubt they were giving full control (for the first one at least in case of Nolan) on that type of movie. I would imagine they still have a quite defined sandbox (and not just the contractually obligated MPAA rating and running time), about toys department requirement, what the property important hero cannot be shown doing, lot of imposed cast, were the movie must left in term of sequels possibility and so on. At least Last Jedi was screaming loudly all of those very close sandbox and list of checkbox they would ask him to do. Even Ridley Scott on is own Alien Franchise that he co-produce with is company has to fight with young studio exec. all the time.
  8. It is mostly close to random vs non-random sampling issue here. https://www.khanacademy.org/math/statistics-probability/designing-studies/sampling-methods-stats/a/sampling-methods-review Voluntary response sample: The researcher puts out a request for members of a population to join the sample, and people decide whether or not to be in the sample. Example—A TV show host asks his viewers to visit his website and respond to an online poll. Why it's probably biased: People who take the time to respond tend to have similarly strong opinions compared to the rest of the population. The obvious best would be to have access to a cinemascore over time and not just opening weekend and a bit more locations, so both method are a bit flawed (both are not perfect random but IMDB/RT is much worst). RT score and IMDB score give you the score of the IMDB/RT population (that is for example mostly male). Take Ocean 8: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt5164214/ratings 4,566 male vote giving an average 5.8/10 1,820 female vote giving it an average 7.4/10 The IMDB score is only 6.2 / 10, closer to the average male opinion of the movie than the female opinion of the movie because they outvote them 3:1 even on a movie like this, but in reality is audience was mostly female and the cinemascore will reflect something closer to the actual paying audience. The average person hanging out on IMDB or RT can be quite different (even a lot in some case of franchises or niche movies) than a lot of people watching movies (that see in average only 4 movies a year and would never create a movie website account to vote on stuff). That become even more obvious for the Letterbox average users score that no one here use to try to pulse the general audience opinion, hereditary is 8.2/10 on letterbox: https://letterboxd.com/film/hereditary/, I would imagine is D+ score to be more representative of the weekend audience opinion of it.
  9. It is often the best we can use, but I imagine it can be quite misleading, 1 spot during the NBA final is quite different than one the afternoon on a cable channel. We will have a better idea tomorrow if we have a variety top 5 (should be in it).
  10. Is it ? https://variety.com/2018/digital/news/jurassic-world-fallen-kingdom-tops-studios-tv-ad-spending-2-1202829844/ https://variety.com/2018/digital/news/ready-player-one-tops-studios-tv-ad-spending-1202712240/
  11. And it start in theater wednesday... Not sure I heard about it before just now. Tag do feel low.
  12. It will decrease but not necessarily on the opening weekend non-adjusted wise (at least we should expect it do decrease), it is a sequel and should be much more front loaded than Mamma Mia excellent 5.0+ legs. Mamma Mia made 167m in 2018 dollar. A 40% drop would make for a 100m performance in 2018, with a 3.3 legs (not bad for a sequel) you need to open at 30m.
  13. Close: 2018-06-11 13:00:00 15 Incredibles Double Feature The IMAX 2D Experience 2018-06-11 13:00:00 15 Tag (2018)
  14. Last full hour of fandango (central time): 2018-06-11 13:00:00 940 Incredibles 2 2018-06-11 13:00:00 814 Oceans 8 2018-06-11 13:00:00 351 Solo A Star Wars Story 2018-06-11 13:00:00 334 Deadpool 2 2018-06-11 13:00:00 286 Hereditary 2018-06-11 13:00:00 198 Avengers Infinity War 2018-06-11 13:00:00 135 Incredibles 2 3D 2018-06-11 13:00:00 125 Jurassic World Fallen Kingdom 2018-06-11 13:00:00 112 Book Club 2018-06-11 13:00:00 77 Incredibles 2 The IMAX 2D Experience 2018-06-11 13:00:00 73 Adrift (2018) 2018-06-11 13:00:00 56 Upgrade (2018) 2018-06-11 13:00:00 45 Doctor Who Genesis of the Daleks 2018-06-11 13:00:00 40 Hotel Artemis 2018-06-11 13:00:00 32 Life of the Party 2018-06-11 13:00:00 30 SuperFly (2018) 2018-06-11 13:00:00 27 Jurassic World Fallen Kingdom 3D 2018-06-11 13:00:00 20 A Quiet Place 2018-06-11 13:00:00 19 Breaking In (2018) 2018-06-11 13:00:00 18 Solo A Star Wars Story 3D 2018-06-11 13:00:00 17 Overboard (2018) 2018-06-11 13:00:00 17 Wont You Be My Neighbor 2018-06-11 13:00:00 16 Show Dogs 2018-06-11 13:00:00 15 Incredibles Double Feature The IMAX 2D Experience 1167 ticket for Incredible if we include the double feature.
  15. I know summer start very early in box office talk, but Avengers was an april release, Summer start june 21, almost 2 full month after Avengers released.
  16. I do not think we ever got clue for any of those movies budget right ? They are both : We have absolutely no idea, except we can probably take Feige word for it if he say BP did cost more, not sure why he would lie about that.
  17. A sequel is in motion I think: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Passion_of_the_Christ#Sequel Caviezel was announced to be returning.
  18. I have no issue with it, has long as you have the same attitude for every sequel, X movies universe entry, reboot, etc... Otherwise it is suspicious.
  19. Not sure how right they are here too: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt5164214/ratings?ref_=tt_ov_rt 16.8% 1/10 votes on IMDB is a lot. Even close to Ghostbuster 17.4% : https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1289401/ratings Maybe they are, with only 5,000 votes in it is simply that the small group of trolls have still a big weight, it will be hidden when the movie will get a couple of 10 of thousands of more vote. And not big enough to call it some campaign.
  20. I would be curious if that change from state to state and country to country, I almost never had any of that and I went to many bad cinemascore movie in recent year's, including Hereditary, mother! 2 time, I come at night and so on. The only instance I can remember is someone saying something one time during Blade Runner 2049. I often see people leaving, sleep, play on their phone quitting on the movie or displeased and saying it loud once the movie end (someone shouted "Finally!" when Silence generic started and a couple of people agreeing), but never trying to mess up the experience for others. Maybe it is the runtime I go to the movies, if I would go to 19:00 type presentation maybe I would encounter that more.
  21. The one I remember was the next Harry Potter, first time I saw it, I could see this work big time. Bumblebee also. Oh and a very long and strange Mamma Mia trailer.
  22. I think that was the way the editing was made (you see the head right after the scream of the mother start if I remember correctly) you need to see the visual clue (I think you see either the road or the post responsible of the accident) to know it is at the crash scene.
  23. That was exactly an example of someone feminizing a franchises, just one really well done.
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