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I really do not see it, it brought some useless cameo, I guess it changed the dynamic with the James Corden characters.... Could easily been a clean reboot like Ocean 11 was without changing anything.

The concept is ridiculous, but the movie take good precaution to make it not too bothering as much as it can and the execution is so good

It was surprising how much it does not leave any doubt, from the very first scene that witch and their magical power exist. But at the same time the director wanted to put us in the subjective experience of people that really believed in them (something impossible for us today) and that was a way to do it and to be more original than the usual movie that would leave a doubt about it. But I would have also loved to see the movie you are talking I think.

The family goes in immediate response and screaming the very second they see the body in the car no ?

The head was not in the driveway it was clearly on the site of the accident no ? Human like when possible to not address what they dislike (study clearly show for example humans in general will not buy and if it is free and given to them to not use statistic about the best hospital for a dangerous intervention, they do not like to think about it). It is perfectly natural to not want to look, to not acknowledge what happened because of the amount of guilt, she got an allergic reaction because of him making her eat cake without thinking about her allergy and than how he drived the car, being stone during the car accident not helping. If you thought he took the head with him and put in the driveway just to shook is mom, then sure it is normal to think that it is over the top non sense, but that is not what happened at all. Same as for a casual drive, he was obviously petrified and not able to sleep.

Lot of work was made in the UK, maybe they setuped an LLC and someone will find it. Regardless looking at the name involved and just imagining some of the old school participation deal that must be in place, the budget will be just a part of the story here anyway and the difference between 170m and 207m would not be that big relative to the actual total cost of the movie. And like you said, budget start to matter when you get a Solo box office, for those giant hit with total cost that can go over 800-900m, a 40m budget difference will not have that big on an impact, for the 400m box office movie a total cost of 426m or 476m become a big difference.

No one expect Hollywood to avoid franchise ? The person you quoted was even saying that people love those, why would one expect Hollywood or McDonald to avoid what people like (or find convenient and easy enough to rapidly consume) ?

Why would want have to like or care about franchise ?

Impossible to know without knowing the first dollar gross deal in place for the Spielberg, Marshall, Bayona and co. But if that rumored 170m budget happen to be true, even if for a China heavy scenario 600m is a lot to break even.... Probably more around 335m to 475m (if people bonus push the movie above 230m at the break even point that is possible). 170m that is the same price than a movie like Hancock, cheaper than the second Planet of the apes of the latest trilogy.... It is not even 50m more than a Deepwater Horizon, a movie that was not expected to go over 300m. Sure that Jurassic World is getting a giant world release, but it would still be incredibly on the cheap side. 170m that is just above a movie like White house down budget adjusted in 2018 dollar, that movie had a break even point estimated at $330m in 2018 dollar.

A producer of the movie (Kinberg) said the budget was 200m before rebate on a podcast for this one too. It was a direct source from someone directly in the know.

For in house studio movies, well yes most people do.......... True if one want to be able to play this like a sport or video games, needing actual numbers to be true so they can win fight on the Internet, but otherwise not having the real budget for most movies.... why does that matter ? We accept to not have P&A budget nor home video, tv contract numbers or participation bonus number very well it seem..... Why budget would be special ?

Sometime I take for granted those montage are easy minutes to be fun in a movie, and this movie help make you appreciate the heist plan with voiceover montage or well good montage in general. Same for the good soundtrack bringing energy, that movie show that it is not that easy at all. The movie has many issues, but 3 really big: 1) The villain, is so far from the Ocean 11 villain, maybe the movie should have started with Blanchett/Bullock younger life and the betrayal instead of the prison parole scene, making us feel the betrayal and enjoying the revenge more, casting could have helped a lot also. 2) The hided side quest, we know something is up when Blanchett by the submarine that didn't fit in any talked plan and so on, but at the end do we care at the reveal that instead of sharing 1/9th of 84 millions they get 1/9th of a larger amount....... it was already a lot of money, already a hard to spend amount of illegal unwhashed money. At least they put one of the characters with enough money problem for who it could make a difference.... It also feel extremely artificial that they kept it secret to the other, did a small group try to con the rest and make a larger amount ? Was it the movie that kept different ending option available and didn't use it ? The payoff of keeping that part secret is quite low. It make also some part of the heist frustrating, not replacing the diamand neckless right away or not finding it in the pool right away made no sense.... also why not exit the giant neckless like the other one, once the security is down or easily never alerted in the first place..... feel really artificial just to have them walk in clothes. Why the Hathaway non participation kept secret to the other, just to keep it secret to the audience... if so why spoil it in the first piece of marketing ? 3) The overall energy and humor level was lacking, Bullock voice did work really well here and her character work imo, but all the others not so much. D

I am a bit curious here, when deadline say some trackers are as low as 30M, they mean non-industry tracker ? What are those ?

It could have imo, with that opening weekend with a mediocre product with mediocre review, do show how much potential it had. A better 8/10 type of movie, giving us a bit better trailers, maybe the movie would have overreach it's target and safe audience it went for (played really really heavy on the woman over 25 quadrant) and could have made a 50m OW run with an bit over 3.15x multi without much of a stretch. A bit of a missed opportunity, but the project was so safe (one of the safest in year's outside the direct sequel type or Super Heroes) that is still a great result without even landing the movie and at 70m didn't needed to play outside it's 2 best quadrant at all. A bit like Murder on the Orient express in many way or Mag 7. Rt average score Murder : 6.1/10 Mag 7: 6.0/10 Ocean 8: 6.3/10 All rather safe project, with a logical budget, assemble cast and franchise power needing only a 6/10 movie to achieve success and Ocean 8 should easily end up the most successful of the bunch domestic, will see oversea, Murder on the Orient express is probably safe there.

It is quite a high sample size for what it is trying to measure, if it would be a true random and representative sample of that size it would be extremelly good. Certainly better than the extremelly non random sample that are the online survey with willing and active participant like IMDB. That the imdb crowd like this movie (at least before it hit home video and overreach is more natural audience) or the critics is not a big surprise.

Specially for movies with such different target demography.

I felt asleep during Sacred Deer......... It Come at night was maybe my favorite watching experience but unlike the Witch I have yet to rewatch it.... I think I would go It Come At Night Hereditary The Witch ... .... I have no idea..... The killing of a sacred dear

200M with what is coming for competition is a bit high imo, specially for just a mediocre movie and above. 1 Ocean's Eleven WB $293,804,700 3,075 $61,672,700 3,075 12/7/01 2 Ocean's Twelve WB $183,895,600 3,290 $57,752,800 3,290 12/10/04 3 Ocean's Thirteen WB $155,979,300 3,565 $48,107,800 3,565 6/8/07  Adjusted for actual inflation OW Ocean 11: 54m Ocean 12: 52m Ocean 13: 44m Only the first one did it above 200m for adjusted for ticket price inflation and adjusted for actual inflation it would have still took a 4.0x multi with a 50m OW to reach that from a movie not trying to be 4 quadrant, that is a lot. Something even A quiet place will not do. 140m feel like a clear giant success bar for this, doubling your budget domestic alone being obviously great, but also it get close to Ocean 12, 165m adjusted for inflation and make it the same as the Ocean 13 141m adjusted for inflation.

The competition from the blumhouse, screengem, well a lot of people is quite big in that space (and they get really big marketing push), it is probably easier to compete in the nicher space they are in.

Not too bad I imagine considering the box office dropped by 34% and the decline of the medium....

I wonder if for old enough classic we do not get some grand parents taking their grand kids to theater phenomenon going on, still bringing kids into theater.

It is the : http://www.filmexpos.com/cineeurope/schedule-of-events/ Starting June 10 also, with the majors studio doing their international product presentation. Curious to see if Chazelle would do it again, lot of people can have one good movie in them and have something to say or tell that can match a fun atheistic, 2 like he already did that special, 3 !

I would agree that thsoe kind of classic are quite different and that include Poppins, a movie that is always in the list of the year best seller https://www.the-numbers.com/home-market/dvd-sales/2013, #67 https://www.the-numbers.com/home-market/dvd-sales/2014, #66 https://www.the-numbers.com/home-market/dvd-sales/2015 #48 https://www.the-numbers.com/home-market/dvd-sales/2016, #36 https://www.the-numbers.com/home-market/dvd-sales/2017, #41 https://www.the-numbers.com/home-market/dvd-sales/2018, #29 According to the numbers it is getting close to 200m in sales. I would also imagine that this will be the kind of sequel that will not require the audience to have seen the first.

7. The Incredibles, Number of Copies Sold: 19 million 2. The Lion King Number of Copies Sold: 31 million 1. Finding Nemo, Number of Copies Sold: 41 million If they knew the above: https://www.insidermonkey.com/blog/11-best-selling-dvds-of-all-time-370105/13/ https://www.theguardian.com/film/2003/nov/19/news1 Best sellings dvd of all times by a huge margin, 200%+ of the Incredibles. And this: http://www.boxofficemojo.com/showdowns/chart/?id=disney3dre.htm Nemo re-release was quite above Monster Inc, and toy story/story 2, about the same has Phantom Menace. It would have been less surprising.

Back in the days, Sony wanted a july 2016 release for this with a significant 25% lone star co-financier. 300m WW box office (110 dbo, 190 intl) being the target, budget a bit above 100m with a break even point evaluated at 76m dbo, 131.4m intl (207.5m WW). The timing of that news (March 06 2017 with make a lot of sense with that March 07 announcement): https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/director-joe-carnahan-exits-bad-boys-3-984339 Probably very similar movie to have on your slate, prefer Bad Boys 3 but if not you can go with this.