IceFire9yt

I'm out of reactions, but I couldn't agree more. The sidelining of Finn was my #1 problem with TLJ. I loved him in TFA, but he seemed like a side character in TLJ.

You know you've got a truly legendary failure when the defense of a movie's box office performance start being 'well, can we truly call any movie a flop?'.

How does IW getting a 42% drop on Friday from last weekend result in it getting a 50% drop on the weekend? Given that it would have an inflated Sunday, wouldn't a sub 40% drop would be possible?

Even Justice League had markets where it did well in (Brazil, China). Solo has nothing.

Damn, a 33M Friday would be absolutely terrible. Honestly thinking that if that number holds, the 3-day will be in the 70s.

I don't buy it. Star Wars and Star Trek are both legacy franchises. GOTG is heavily rooted in 1970's culture, and thus doesn't resonate as much outside of the US. Also, take a look at how GOTG2 and TLJ perform in various overseas territories. GOTG2 does better in many of the Asian and Latin American countries (Bolivia, Brazil, China, Columbia, India, Indonesia, Malaysia, Mexico, Paraguay, Philippines, South Korea, Taiwan, Thailand, and Venuzuela). There clearly is a franchise specific component here.

My prediction. Thursday: 14.1M Friday: 23.1M (Full OD is 2.64x previews, compared to TFA's 2.12x, TLJ's 2.33x, and RO's 2.45x) Saturday: 25.9M (+12% from true Friday, better than any of the previous Star Wars movies, and in line with previous memorial day releases) Sunday: 24.6M (-5%) 3-Day: 87.7M

Are you seriously expecting people to go along with the idea that if Marvel never again surpasses Infinity War, they're somehow sliding down? Or that Disney would have any reason to worry whatsoever? Maybe the MCU never has another 2B dollar movie (though with inflation and the expansion of overseas markets, tbh I think it will happen again), but if it doesn't how on Earth is that a failure in any sense?

Unless I'm doing my math very wrong... POTC 5 increased 12% from true Friday. Apocalypse increased 13%. Tomorrowland increased 31%, but I wouldn't put it in the same category as the rest. DOFP increased 7% F&F6 dropped 2%. I'd say we'd be more likely looking at a 10% increase on Saturday.

Welp, I'm out of reactions. Good job team!

15M would be more than we'd be expecting, but not 'great' by any means. I mean, it'd be hard to get a 100M 3-day off of that number.

Those ratios just keep falling. This movie is withering before our eyes.

Well, there goes Solo's one tiny bright spot.

IW staying flat from last Thursday seems ridiculously good. Are there mitigating factors around that number?

I'm definitely hyped for this movie, I hope it happens! People have been asking for a Black Widow movie for years, so from the fandom/hype side of things I feel this movie has more going for it than most MCU solo movies do. As for the GA, well, that's always down to the movie itself and the marketing- but being a frickin' Avenger is a pretty good starting place.

One superhero movie underperforms slightly and the knives are out already. Some people are so thirsty for that superhero fatigue.

Yeah, I could see it pulling an Age of Ultron, or if it's lucky a TDKR. Domestic decrease, but probably also growth overseas.

You'd think if they wanted to appeal to new fans, they would have done more with Finn and Poe. I loved them in TFA but their arcs in TLJ were very unsatisfying.

Well, I'd guess it'd less preview heavy than Rogue One, especially with Memorial Day boosting Sunday. Still, if it's Thursday previews are lower than Deadpool's... I hesitate to say this but it seems like a 100M 3-day OW would not be guaranteed.

I think its pretty clear that 'The Avengers' boost didn't just effect the characters who appeared in the movie. GOTG and Doctor Strange outgrossed every phase one movie WW. No way would either of those movies or Ant Man have done as well as they did without the Avengers boosting the entire franchise. So I don't think its crazy to speculate that Infinity War could have the same impact on Ant-Man, despite him not appearing in the movie.

So why on Earth didn't the new Star Wars trilogy ever reunite Luke, Leia and Han? I'm saying this as someone who doesn't have a particularly strong attachment to the original trilogy, but it seems like one shot of them together in a trailer would have been marketing gold. Seems like such a wasted opportunity to me.

So wait, what about Netflix/streaming? I get that DVDs/Blu-ray sales are falling, but I was sort of under the impression that streaming was picking up the slack. Honestly though, that makes the MCU's consistent increases between installments that much more impressive.

Isn't one of the reasons why blockbusters avoid August is because China only allows Chinese films that month? Sounds perfect for Deadpool, since its not gonna be in China anyway. Heck, Solo probably would have done well in August too, considering its going to make all of 10 bucks in China, and giving people a longer break after the last Star Wars release might have been good. But nope, we gotta have both of these movies right next to each other, hurting each other and Infinity War as well. Oh well, at least we're in for some entertaining box office weekends.

Rth's name and numbers are also posted on r/boxoffice. So it might be someone from that subreddit.