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On the other hand, if Marvels underperforms, I could see a case of Danvers leading the Avengers only to get taken out through some plot contrivance in the opening action scene.

Obviously, the big question is whether the reaction will be as positive as it was for GOTG3. It could backfire otherwise...

I can't see Starlord as a leader of the Avengers, from a narrative standpoint. He barely met some of them at the end of IW and - as far as most of them are concerned - he fucked up. Then for EG he just showed up with everyone else through the portals and was, you know...there. He would need to be present in a number of movies before the next set of Avengers for it to work from that point of view. Of course, that all goes out the window if the need for a big leading star outweighs any narrative logic, and they can cram it all into one movie. All this does is further exemplify how the MCU failed in this past phase not necessarily in setting a clear goal/threat, but worse still, in setting up a clear team of genuinely likable and interesting/charismatic heroes to form the new Avengers.

I have been saying I'll be getting the popcorn out for this as it's gonna be entertaining. One side will be declaring the death of the MCU, the other will come up with excuses, then sales pick-up, roles get reversed and so on. This is gonna be entertaining, and then the movie's gonna end up opening with like 115 million and no one will be happy.

Having now seen The Creator, I'm not surprised it's bombing and I would not be shocked if WOM was mediocre towards bad for it. Everyone in my screening was audibly deflated at the end of it. And a ton of stretching and yawning throughout. It's as if Oblivion and Elysium had a developmentally challenged child. Jesus, it's such a terrible screenplay. And even the visuals were only mostly ok - after all the hype I was expecting more. You can tell a movie is bad if it can't grab my attention and make me stop asking "WHAT IS THE BIG DEAL ABOUT THE BLOODY NOMAD?". There is zero thought put into actually BUILDING a world that makes sense and giving some explanations. Instead, it's a series of concepts - both art, story and theme. All kernels of something, not developed in any way. Absolutely terrible movie.

He might be spared by AI, but Tony Gilroy's gonna get him eventually...

I think the Scorsese/Leo combo is enough of a brand. Not Nolan-level, but it's definitely a selling point. They have a solid track record.

The Creator looks like ChatGPT chewed up and spat out a blend of every single sci-fi movie of the last 4 decades. It also stars absolutely no one of note, is directed by no one of note and it seems like the big selling point was "look how cheap we made this movie!". How can that possibly go wrong when people that only go out to the cinema for big events, crazy WOM phenoms and so on hear about it and think "oh, so it's some cheapo crap"? Reinforce that with middling reviews (to answer this point from earlier in the thread - you DO need that shiny 90%+ certified for an original to stand out) and The Creator never had a chance. It has no role to play in conversations about the future of cinemas. It's a non-entity, always was. Its floppage has no bearing on anything. Now, when The Marvels underperforms... THAT's when I'm getting my popcorn out.

Stop drinking. Or drink more...whichever makes you stop saying stupid shit.

oh come on... biggest missed opportunity of all time? Gimme a break.

This whole movie is an odd choice for a movie. Crickets whenever I got the trailer in cinema. Been almost a decade since the last one and the whole concept behind the series is nostalgia for old farts in action movies, so relying on nostalgia for a 4th movie just seemed dumb, and there was fuck all else going for this movie.

Same. But also, it's a damn movie. Kill the stupid kid. May as well poison the wells and burn the fields as the DCEU is dying.

Yes, supporting post-birth abortion is a very Republican viewpoint...

To be honest, it would be a strong counter-point to Avatar 2. There, the main character loses a child and immediately embraces anger and sets off to exact revenge and then learns to better appreciate his other son. Here, the main character is free of the nagging wife and crying kid - WITHOUT HAVING TO WORRY ABOUT PAYING FINACIAL SUPPORT - and decides to go on a lads' holiday with his bro. And people say superhero movies are stale and formulaic...

Some people just don't like their kids, man. It's about time society had an honest dialogue about this. I applaud DC and WB for leading the way.

Mind you, I would be all-in on a baby murder. Like, it would at least be less generic for a comic book movie. But, I gotta think it's the wife and/or mother that bites the big one. Hell, I would love it if Mera dies in the first act, Atlana dies in the second act and Aquaman himself dies in the third act, leaving Orm - who fits the traditional look - as the new Aquaman, having redeemed himself, and now raising his step-brother's orphaned son. Momoa can play Lobo in the new DCU and so on...

I fully expect Mera to bite it and the Aquababy to live

Yes, sorry. I was thinking China but the usual BOM misinformation made me type the other one. I just don't see Oppie getting that kind of gross from a single re-release, considering its results in most markets in the original run. I suppose there's always the chance of a Japan release with 10-20 million and, in ten years' time, Russia, where its portrayal of Oppenheimer as hounded for his association with communism will be celebrated as anti-American and get another 20 million.

Interstellar had a major re-release in South Korea that Oppenheimer won't ever match. It's also the one Nolan movie that seems to have the biggest demand for occasional IMAX re-releases and seems to have only gone up in people's estimation compared to its original release. I definitely think Oppie will keep adding some money here and there, but I don't know if we'll see any re-release of it capable of doing 20-30 million in one go. Same for any Oscar expansion - this is already finishing in the 950 million range. It's had a massive run - it won't ever have the kind of awards bump that an indie or small release would. You have a dozen movies in that 940-999 million range and there's one in particular that you feel could and should have been pushed past the billion, but even The Two Towers has only added like 10 million with re-releases, if I'm not mistaken. I don't see where it can get 50+ million any time soon (if at all), to be honest. But... as much as I'd love it to hit that number, it would be silly to feel bad if it falls short. Just an exemplary result.

Nolan taking a page out of Cameron's book in his meeting with Uni regarding his next project.

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My point isn't related to quality either - it's that you seem to have skipped a whole movie in your comparison. Even if you ignore the live action to animated effect (again, Spider-Verse), there's a whole second Bay-produced live action movie that dropped massively from the first one and is far closer to this, box-office wise...

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Not on weekdays. We'll see if it is a weekend movie with the second weekend drop. But I wouldn't be too optimistic...

How wide is the IMAX release - do we know how many screens it might be getting (and if it will be exclusive, or sharing)?