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I don't see why $200 million is such a crazy budget for this kind of movie. Its two closest equivalents, MI:Fallout and No Time To Die, had budgets of $178 million and $250 million respectively.

I know people who saw it at a test screening back in 2019 and it apparently played fairly well, lots of clapping/laughing/cheers in the right places, though most people seemed to "zone out" during the backstory stuff for the Rock's character.

Guarantee the Rock has a massive profit participation deal with this film and he's pressing Disney to either wait and release it in theatres or pay him a ton of money to make up for the loss.

Possibly, but it's going to be way more expensive than the Plummer stuff because he's playing one of the main characters and if they're staying true to the book he's going to be in at least 3/4 of the entire movie. I hope this won't compromise the chances for a sequel because I'd love to see more Branagh-directed Poirot movies.

Yeah, the big question mark is Black Widow. Once that rolls out, I'm guessing Disney will analyse the numbers and plot the release strategy/promotion for the rest of the slate, from there.

Exactly. Plus, Elfman's always had a really good relationship with Raimi (their falling out on Spiderman 2 notwithstanding) so they've already got a creative connection. Elfman's work with Whedon on JL and Ultron were both basically last minute rehauls.

Principle photography is starting later this year in London, according to Gunn. Given that Henry Braham (the film's cinematographer) is also working on the Flash, which starts filming in April, shooting will likely begin in either autumn or winter.

The idea of making Superman black isn't some crazy new development that's only come about because DC hates Cavill or wants to be PC or whatever. WB have been toying with the idea of a black Superman ever since Will Smith was the first person to be offered the role in Tim Burton's Superman Lives. He rejected it because of the negative fan backlash he got when he was first announced as playing a previously white character in Wild Wild West. (Amazing to think that fanboys were so entitled then, glad to know thing have changed. lol) Also, what I've heard from people who've seen the numbers is that Superman has a much higher percentage of brand awareness/engagement amongst non-Americans and non-white Americans (especially Black Americans) than with white Americans. So ultimately this is just good business sense.

My guess is that they wait and see how Raya does. If it does well, BW goes hybrid. If it does poorly, BW will be pushed back one more time to Shang Chi's date and will... still go hybrid. But unlike Mulan, they'll leave a gap (maybe a month or so) before it comes out in theatres, especially Chinese ones, and when it comes out on VOD in the US.

New marketing campaign looks great.

Daniel Richtman, one of the more reliable internet scoopers (he's the one who recently leaked that the GVK trailer would be released today) posted on his Patreon feed that WB was trying to get Pine to come back for either WW3 or a spinoff. Obviously, he's still an internet scooper, with all the caveats that entails. However, he's usually very on point when it comes to WB stuff.

Exactly. There's a reason why they automatically brought Pine back for the sequel* and it isn't because they thought WW84 needed those essential dress-up and "what's a trashcan?" scenes. *and are rumoured to be trying to bring him back again

If they are going to make another Batman movie with Keaton, I hope they bring Burton back to direct it. I know he hasn't exactly been on a hot streak the last decade or so but it would feel wrong for them to make one without him given that he basically kickstarted the last three decades+ of comic book blockbusters. Not to mention that after those weak direct to DVD Adam West movies, I don't trust them to not just write a boring normal Batman story and then just dress it up in the Burton's version's aesthetic without actually grasping the tone it was aiming for.

If they're smart, they push it to open about a few weeks after Black Widow comes out. Unless another major blockbuster moves ahead of that film, it is not only going to be the first major blockbuster in theatres, but also the one that has the biggest chance of bringing audiences back to cinemas. Obviously if Black Widow either fails or underperforms this gives EON/MGM more time to push it and reevaluate their position. And if Black Widow is a success, then NTTD will be the first major blockbuster to ride the wave that it will unleash and won't have to compete with the other held back 2020 films.

That isn't the problem, what is the problem is that WB/AT&T are going to pointlessly lose a ton of money by doing this and as a consequence hundreds of people will lose their jobs as a result. Studios will absolutely tighten their belts when it comes to the people who will still have jobs but trust me, it isn't going to be rich A-list actors or studio executives who are going get their pay cut.

The same could apply for 90% of the people posting here lol.

"Legendary financed a significant portion of “Dune,” which cost roughly $175 million." https://variety.com/2020/film/news/legendary-entertainment-warner-bros-hbo-max-deal-dune-godzilla-1234847605/ Lol. Everyone who said that WB were definitely not going to repeat the mistakes of Blade Runner 2049 and give this movie a massively inflated budget owes me money. :Edit: They did do the smart thing though and made this PG-13.

lol. It rules how this year every major studio has experimented with multiple different ways of releasing movies that aren't just full theatrical runs only to learn time and again that this is the only way to make money. Tenet will have lost its studio at least $100+ million and it will still be the most profitable western blockbuster of the entire pandemic.

Tbh- this is the most positive piece of news I've heard about this film so far, and no, I am actually not talking entirely about the firing. The first Fantastic Beasts movie was a hit because it promised all the fun magical antics of Harry Potter in an exciting new setting without being weighed down by the need to tell an overarching story with a ton of backstory. The fact that they have likely written most of the Grindlewald character out for this one, suggests that they might finally be trying to correct this issue.

From Drew's newsletter. "When Apple TV+ comes to the table with a $600 million check (one of the numbers I’ve heard is actually higher than that) for a one-year exclusive window on a film, that’s a number that you have to pay attention to, no matter what your history and no matter how much you cherish the theatrical experience." "This is the big one for MGM. This movie is make or break for a studio that has basically been playing a financial shell game for years. It’s amazing that MGM has the legacy it does considering how long it has been limping along as a barely-functioning production entity." "When your last film in the franchise made just over $800 million worldwide, and someone’s offering you almost that much for a single streaming window? That’s a conversation you have." https://drewmcweeny.substack.com/p/could-james-bond-really-die-at-home

This movie can easily move to December 2021, regardless of Spiderman 3. That movie hasn't even set filming dates yet; this one is already a third of the way done with shooting.