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3 minutes ago, HummingLemon496 said:
Really hope IO2 has some last minute blow up like Minions 2/Venom 2.
Dude multiple people have just said it is doing fine. And explained the reasons not to worry. There is no reason to have angst here.
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5 minutes ago, Porthos said:
Like, I personally don't understand — or rather I understand where it's coming from, but I don't agree with — the undertone of concern when it comes to ticket sales for IO2. They seem perfectly fine to me, maybe even somewhat strong. It just isn't selling like a frontloaded CBM/fan driven franchise (even when adjusting for animation).
Which I suppose begs the question* about if it should be seen as a fan driven/frontloaded (for kids animation property) movie
* actually looked up to see if I was coming close** to the 'correct' usage.
** Reasonably sure I am 😛
I can see the argument, that it should be, but... I dunno. Far stronger case for CBM films like Across the Spider-Verse or CBM-adjacent films like Incredibles 2. Even Toy Story 4 was a *very* well established franchise with an actual dedicated fandom.
And I suppose it's the "dedicated fandom" bit I keep coming back to. As well regarded as Inside Out was (and is), I personally am not aware of any "dedicated fandom" for it that would make it more like the Toy Story installments or the Sonic franchise or similar other franchises like Frozen.
No, the movie I keep coming back to is Finding Dory. That might be the most "on point" comparison I can think of when it comes to IO2. There are natural differences, of course. This is a continuation story to one degree or another while Finding Dory was a sorta-sequel, sorta-spinoff. That was before my time as a dedicated tracker, though I distinctly remember worry about its early pre-sales. Sadly, what little Tracking info we have for that film is no longer accessible, so I really can't go back and take a look at it to see what we did have. And, naturally, streaming has disrupted things to a huge degree.
So I suppose it really comes down to how much we think this will still act like a traditional kids animation film when it comes to buying pattern, how much demand has been burnt off, and how many people are still going to buy tickets but see no particular need to buy them early.
Which I suppose really can't be answered until we get close to the time when kids animation films typically accelerate. But, I keep looking at the sales in Sacramento and not seeing much cause for concern.
Yet, at any rate.
I think everybody is just so gun shy right now that every movie up too DP and W is going to bomb or underwhelm or something. LIke others have said none of these May movies were sure things and all had things working against them and their needed to be a sure thing opening to buffer any one of them and take the pressure off. The studios made their bed by not making a deal on April 30 last year and then following with the actors.
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4 minutes ago, DAJK said:
Garfield and Furiosa both seem to be having pretty solid Saturdays from what I’m seeing. Maybe not enough to save the box office, but definitely enough to dampen the doom and gloom a little bit.
It's like regular folk do not pay attention to any of this crap and go to a movie when they dam well feel like it
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So the Fall Guy is going to do at least 3x its opening Weekend which for non fan driven titles is a sign of good WOM. If only it had opened up a lot better.
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This is great but shy of Fury Road. I think it's ambition exceed it's grasp some of the time. But I am truly glad this movie exists BO be dammed. I can understand though if the GA did not embrace that they will not embrace this. It is not the non stop chase movie for them to just enjoy as an action movie. Hemsworth really knocks it out of the park, Anna Taylor by the end she seems to morph into Charlize so much it's freaky. Tom Burke eh fairly underwritten and does not make much of a impact. The action when it comes holy shit. Overall just shy of the masterpiece Fury Road is.
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2 minutes ago, vale9001 said:
making almost 3 times the first movie (was still a 100m+ movie) it's a great growth for a sequel, let's be serious.
I mean yeah let's shit on one of the few major bright spots we have had these last 10 months or so. Sure.
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5 minutes ago, Maggie said:
You can call it that but DR still made 570 even being steamrolled by Barbenheimer and despite what you and "Ryan Reynolds" think the WOM was good. Not liking it as much as GP, RN, and Fallout is not bad WOM.
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One thing I can say is that MI8 will do much better next year. Even if it dips a little from DR but having PLF exclusive for 3 weeks if WOM good to great and they maybe streamline it a little so that people who were not crazy about DR might enjoy it more. 60-80 for the 4 days should happen.
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3 minutes ago, Eric Furiosa said:
So we're just gonna completely ignore Dune? Or Wonka? Or any of the small-scale hits in those months? Or even the solid grossing 150M+ hits? That's cute. You're really cute.
Yeah I think March can be left off. The joke works without it.
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3 minutes ago, filmscholar said:
Not to mention it's rumored Will and Martin both took Back-End points to keep the Budget in check under 100 Million (Like they did for Bad Boys for Life). They also got the run-time just under 2 hours. It's the shortest "Bad Boys" film in the franchise. Look, Will has had some drama the last two years since winning the Oscar. At the end of the day the Man has a long history of putting butts in seats. Martin is also someone that makes people laugh. It's going to be a good "Date" movie too for couples. I hope it does better than "For Life" but we'll see.
It could do better than For Life. That opened in the dog days of January. This will have summer weekdays and no real competition for it's audience like at all. The light release schedule will really benefit it.
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4 minutes ago, filmlover said:
Poor Lupita . LOL
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7 minutes ago, Cmasterclay said:
I think Bad Boys is going to do very good tbh, it's short and funny and the kind of thing people want to see communally. I'm way more excited for Furiosa as a piece of art but Bad Boys I know I can go with friends and watch in a full laughing theater so frankly much more urgency to watch that one.
Seeing Furiosa today and will see Bad Boys in 2 weeks.
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27 minutes ago, toutvabien said:
Major rewrites: Blade no longer a vampire hunter, now he's just a... LAD!
Just put this movie out of it's misery. The fact that M. ALI has stuck around is amazing.
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1 minute ago, Maggie said:
Next weekend no major release. Bad Boys 4 after that. I hope it does at least 50M
The only way it does not do 50 at least is if there is a massive boycott due to Mr. Smith. There is no indication that is going to happen though. Even if the presales and tracking do not look awesome this will have great walkups. For Life was only tracking to do about 40-45 on MLK weekend in 20 and did 73.
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3 minutes ago, YM! said:
Is this a bad weekend? Yes without any denial. Am I disappointed that Furiosa didn’t do better? Yes. Do I think theatrical might be in trouble this year? Somewhat. However, I realized yesterday that through my doom and gloom it won’t help me feel any better. I’m grateful that theaters are still here and that Furiosa still exists. Sometimes we get so wrapped up in numbers and what makes a film a flop or hit, we don’t really appreciate the film themselves sometimes. I’m aiming to see I Saw the TV Glow next week and likely Apes with the family. Also I can’t really say theaters are 100% doomed when June looks far more promising than this May did.
This month just didn’t hit because there wasn’t anything the GA really gravitated too but theaters and studios tried their damndest. This weakness this month was due to strikes due to the studios’ own greed and refusing to play ball - they made their beds and now they must lay in them. It might happen again with the animation/VFX strike looming. This March was pretty damn strong and so long as we rebound in the Fall, 2024 exhibition will be okay. Not to mention 2025 and 2026 look far stronger on paper so theaters will still continue and could return just as strong. However, if theaters become the next drive-ins, I’ll be sad but also grateful they’re still here.
Could not agree with this more.
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15 minutes ago, Eric Furiosa said:
Not everything needs a sequel. And honestly, Fall Guy's one that I think works well as just the one thing.
Yeah good point. I thought the same thing after seeing it. It does not end the same way some of these franchise want to be's do with a setup for the sequel.
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3 hours ago, vafrow said:
Bad Boys Ride or Die, T-13 Thursday previews, western GTA (southern Ontario)
Total Sales: 32
New Sales since T-19: 15
Growth: 88%
Theatres tracked: MTC4
Total theatres: 5
Showtimes: 17
Radius: 19 km
Tickets per showtime: 1.9
Ticket premium in effect: Yes
Tickets by Showtime Slot
Late Afternoon: 1/3
Early Evening: 25/7
Late Evening: 6/7
Tickets by Format
Dolby: 1/7
IMAX: 11/6
VIP: 20/4
Comps
0.727x KOTPOTA for $3.6M
0.333x HG:BoSS
0.711x GB:FE for $3.3M
Average: $3.5M
I still expect this to be more walk up friendly than the comps being used, and should see a gradual rise as the date gets closer.
Yep For Life was a walkup monster. It made 73 over the 4 day MLK weekend in 2020 and was only tracking to do about 40-45 I think.
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16 minutes ago, toutvabien said:
This might actually get to $90m off a $27m opening. Still not good obviously, but damn it's holding!
This is going to be such a steaming monster which is the problem. And then a bunch of people will ask when is the sequel coming. Uh....
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I have mixed feelings on this whole depressing BO. Yeah it sucks but not going to lose sleep over two mid at best family movies not breaking out that you know decided to open in back to back weekends when there was a over a two month wasteland of no family movies opening when one could have moved too. As for Furiosa it's a prequel to a movie that the GA did not love as much as us people in the bubble did and 9 years is a long time to expect the GA that did like to care and anticipate it. I am seeing it today and hope I love it. That is all I can do. Apes is doing solid and at least will get to or make slightly more than the previous movie DOM. The Fall Guy should have been cheaper and not opened the summer and yeah Gosling should take some of the blame for doing The Gray Man. Bad Boys ROD, IO2, QP Day One, DM4, Twisters, and of course DP and W will all do degree's of good to great. And in the fall/winter you got Beetlejuice, Joker/Harley, Venom 3, Gladiator 2, Wicked Part 1, Sonic 3 and Mufassa. if a bunch of those bomb or underperform then yeah we are fucked.
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13 minutes ago, dallas said:
I still see Bad Boys 4 opening around $50M tbh. Walkups are good for these movies so if presales right now suggest $40M, then $50M is a good bet.
I think 55+ is possible. For Life was only tracking to do about 35-40 I think and ended up doing 62 for the 3 day and 73 for the 4 day of MLK weekend in 20. The walkups were massive.
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7 minutes ago, Liiviig 1998 said:
Minions had 107m 3 day/123 m 4 day.weekend with independence day falling on Monday.
DM4 is releasing on 3rd and independence day falling on Sat. 120M+ weekend don't sound that crazy to me as independence day is within that weekend
DM4 is having a standard 3 day weekend .
It's not minions 2 and DM3 which had extended long 4 -5 day weekends. Independence day falling on Monday and Tuesday respectively.
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185 m and 181m of FFH and transformers 3 that benefited extended July 4th festivities.(7 day)
Beloni prediction is weirdly worded and makes it sound like 120-129m 3 day is not inclusive of 3 and 4th holidays.
Uh you might want to look at your calendar. The 4th is on thursday. This is having a 5 day opening since it opens on the 3rd.
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So reading that the budget of Bad Boys Ride Or Die is 90 million the same as For Life. Being responsible with the budget and not blowing it up just to blow it up. How novel. 2 cost 130 million 21 years ago. So even if it does not do as well as For Life anything north of 130 would be just fine and most likely 150+ for sure will happen.
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10 minutes ago, excel1 said:
My bigger irritation at the moment is that it really doesn't have to be this way. Bizarre to me that WB/Disney couldn't find a way for there to be a Holland (or even McGuire) Spider-man film or The Batman 2 ready for May 2024. It was so clearly wide open for a major event film but nobody moved. JOKER 2 will be a big hit but imagine if it had the early May release date?
The lack of capitalizing on the popularity of the post-covid films that have indeed been successful is becoming irritating to watch. Good on WB for fast tracking DUNE 2 and GODZILLA vs KONG 2, Q1 and Q2 of 2024 would be atrocious without them, but we need more of it. Another Holland Spider-man film or The Batman 2 should 100% be in production by now. Instead we are looking at 2026. Top Gun 3 should have a release date. 2023's slew of breakouts should have all sequels in active development - Barbie 2, Spider-verse 3, Wonka 2, Super Mario Bros 2 would/should all be big hits.
I mean most of these are in devlopement of some kind.Just what we want is for them to rush them out just to fill holes in the schedule. And also there was this 6 month strike that really halted the progression of a lot of stuff.
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1 minute ago, AniNate said:
I'm trying to find another hobby to distract myself
NVIDIA had a good week it seems
Yep. It's crazy when the pushback comes just for saying maybe we are all too emotionally invested and need to step back a little.
Weekend Numbers [05.24 - 05.27, 2024] | 4-day actuals | 32.3M FURIOSA: A MAD MAX SAGA | 31.3M THE GARFIELD MOVIE | 22.3M IF | 17.6M KINGDOM OF THE PLANET OF THE APES
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Yeah that's what makes it a cult. The GA does not care that much and Hemsworth has proven time and time again he can not open a envelope and Anna is not really a opener type star.