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11 minutes ago, titanic2187 said:
The only two movies to have weaker than estimate Sunday hold but to be fair Sony' Sunday estimate of -1% for Garfield is probably too optimistic to begin with.
We can talk all we want about the inflated expectations for Furiosa but remember when some people around here thought Garfield was going to be some MIni Mario like breakout. Never understood that and here we are. Of course it will be more profitable because it is cheap but still.
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4 minutes ago, titanic2187 said:
All movie have slightly better Sunday hold than estimate.
So IF is the only other May movie that has a shot to do 100m DOM along with Apes. It has two free weekends with no competition. No wide releases this week and Ride and Die and Watchers on the 7th are not for that audience obv. So whatever it can make before IO 2 opens.
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24 minutes ago, Torontofan said:
Dune was helped by having a cool look and being seen as a theater worthy experience.
That is the issue hardly anything seems a theater worthy experience lately.
So many films that came out last month or even this month are available online now.
While films like Oppenhimer didnt appear online for like 4-5 months
Yeah it's like training audiences to wait a few a weeks or a month for 90% of movies to be availiable at home. is not good for the theatrical movie business.
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3 hours ago, vafrow said:
Bad Boys Ride or Die, T-11 Thursday previews, western GTA (southern Ontario)
Total Sales: 36
New Sales: 0
Growth: 0%
Theatres tracked: MTC4
Total theatres: 5
Showtimes: 17
Radius: 19 km
Tickets per showtime: 2.1
Ticket premium in effect: Yes
Tickets by Showtime Slot
Late Afternoon: 1/3
Early Evening: 29/7
Late Evening: 6/7
Tickets by Format
Dolby: 1/7
IMAX: 11/6
VIP: 24/4
Comps
0.706x KOTPOTA for $3.5M
0.273x HG:BoSS for $1.6M
0.655x GB:FE for $3.1M
Average: $2.7M
Zero sales day when all comps seemed to have done well. Not a great result.
Note: This isn't a holiday in Canada, so that doesn't explain the slow sales. Hopefully it's just an anomaly. This has been very steady to date.
Great. One thing this has going for it is the budget is only 90 million same as For Life. So even if it falls down at the end as part of the general audience mailaise right now and only opens to 35-40 or something with good WOM and no competition for it's audience for awhile it will be fine. It would just be nice if it broke out and I have already talked about the walkup thing too much.
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14 minutes ago, Pinacolada said:
The Bikeriders tickets are now on sale. It's actually sold some around me.
It does seem like Focus is giving it kind of a shitty release though. Small screens. Definitely no PLFs, which 20th Century Studios was gonna get it Dolby back when they had it.
There's 3 theaters really near me. Only 1 of them has this on sale as of now, though the other 2 theaters may come later?
Maybe this can surprise. But for a movie like this what is a surprise anymore 10 million?
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11 minutes ago, Cmasterclay said:
One thing I'll say - yes it's just Twitter and online news, but I am seeing a record amount of conversation among "normal" people about the box office this weekend and the meltdowns have gone as close to mainstream as I've seen them in the past couple years. I don't know if it ends up making any difference, but at least people are talking and maybe that inspires some positive shifts? Idk. Just being hopeful.
12 minutes ago, Cmasterclay said:One thing I'll say - yes it's just Twitter and online news, but I am seeing a record amount of conversation among "normal" people about the box office this weekend and the meltdowns have gone as close to mainstream as I've seen them in the past couple years. I don't know if it ends up making any difference, but at least people are talking and maybe that inspires some positive shifts? Idk. Just being hopeful.
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1 minute ago, MysteryMovieMogul said:
Oh, I didn't see that they actually called people who see films in theaters lunatics.
I know I'm going against the grain by saying this, but bring me back my 3D showings. I want to see films in 3D. It's literally an experience I can't get at home. I get it, it's a gimmick, but it's a gimmick that brought me into the theater more often than not!
Yep they did. Also No thanks on 3D even IMAX depends on the movie. Dolby is becoming my favorite PLF.
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Just now, MysteryMovieMogul said:
Damn, what an overreactive reply to something that's unabashedly true.
In 2014, 67 films made over $50 million domestically.
In 2019, 56 films made over $50 million domestically.
Last year, only 50 films made over $50 million domestically.
This year, only 11 films have crossed that same $50 million mark domestically.
Will there be 39 more films this year that cross the $50 million threshold? I'd like to hope so. There are 31 more weekends left in 2024. It's certainly possible. But will be get to 2019's total? OR even 2014's? Ehh...
Okay how does any of that warrant calling people who do still go to the theaters lunatics?
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3 minutes ago, Michael Gary Scott said:
I've seen 62 I have a similar thing to A list different theater chain but I try to see everything
Holy shit 62!
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5 minutes ago, Maggie said:
I don't think posters here have an anti theater pro streaming agenda (maybe one of them), but it's just the reality. Theaters are in danger. This year has not been good at the BO. Next year looks better
Yeah i got that. It just gets under my skin when someone acts as if us people who are going to the theaters still are weirdos or something. And lot of the rest of this year should be better if the movies deliver on their promise. Fingers crossed.
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I am going to be blunt but the anti theater pro streaming agenda that some have around here pisses me off.
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9 minutes ago, AJG said:
It’s over and it’s time to be realistic.
Asking people to leave their warm homes and cheap massive televisions to journey through the city to watch an even bigger television is an insane proposition in 2024.
The only way to solve the BO is to jack up prices for the few lunatics that actually want to go to the cinema. Nobody is watching movies on a whim anymore. I’m pretty sure the people that ventured to the cinema to watch a movie in a cold dark void, a couple weeks before the PVOD, would’ve done so even if it cost $40-$50.
Billion dollar hits week after week. It’s coming.
Yep call us people who still like to go to the movies lunatics. Get the F out of here with that shit.
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5 minutes ago, ZeroHour said:
I’m not sure it’s helpful to keep harping on this. People are probably using the best comps they have. We’ll know the full story on the walk ups in a couple weeks.
I am not being critical at all. I would like to know . That's why I wonder. That was my point. This is a hard movie to comp.
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3 minutes ago, katnisscinnaplex said:
Movie Day Area TC Shows New Sold Seats % Sold Bad Boys 4 T-11 Jax 5 56 6 132 9,816 1.34% Phx 6 39 6 98 7,802 1.26% Ral 8 44 9 103 6,582 1.56% Total 19 139 21 333 24,200 1.38% Bad Boys 4 (EA) T-10 Jax 3 3 2 12 855 1.40% Watchers T-11 Jax 5 21 11 11 1,458 0.75% Phx 6 20 15 15 2,182 0.69% Ral 7 21 3 3 2,142 0.14% Total 18 62 29 29 5,782 0.50% Bad Boys (Total) T-11 adjusted comps
- M:I 7 (Total) - .404x (3.57m)
- F9 - .463x (3.49m)
- Furiosa - missed
- Ghostbusters FE - .95x (4.17m)
- Godzilla x Kong - .618x (5.57m)
- Kingdom of Apes - .799x (5.38m)
- John Wick 4 - .374x (3.33m)
Watchers T-11 adjusted comps
- Abigail - 1.115x (1.115m)
- Strangers - .707x (849k)
- Last Voyage - 1.208x (1.05m)
Still not sure what a good comp for BB ROD is except for the previous movie. It just feels like it's own franchise. Esp as walkup friendly as it is.
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3 minutes ago, JustLurking said:
I'm not too young to see it and yet won't even watch it on D+.
Cool. We are all different. There are movies you probably like that me and a bunch of other people would not watch if we were tied to a chair.
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2 minutes ago, cannastop said:
yeah not watching that lol
Okay to each their own. It proves something can be on track to be the biggest R rated opening ever and their are people who are not into it or maybe too young?
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2 minutes ago, reddevil19 said:
My two cents. Or more than two I guess...
Firstly, I have said it before and I'll say it again. Miller and the studio got high smelling their own farts with Fury Road when they went in on Furiosa. The fact that the idea was there from the get-go and it was always meant as a companion piece does NOT mean it's a good idea to actually make the damn thing. Truth if the matter is Fury Road itself wasn't a huge success and this completely misses what made that one work. It is simply dull. It's an anticlimactic ending, and the action throughout is nowhere near as good. It's not a kinetic, frenetic experience like Fury Road, the editing is so-so in comparison, the CG is frankly terrible in places, and a large part of the action is jarring with the very obvious sped up shots and so on.
The second point is actually a combination of factors. I don't think prequels as a whole are a viable option post-covid. Casual moviegoing is clearly no longer a thing. And a movie which had a clearly defined end point is not a sufficiently attractive proposition. Not when the rest of the movie fails to offer anything to compensate for a pre-established narrative - all respect and love to Hemsworth and ATJ, but they're not enough. So prequels not viable and ESPECIALLY this prequel, where Theron post Fury Road is what people wanted, not a prequel, releasing a decade after Fury Road.
I appreciate that Furiosa is not Fury Road but it's still too connected to get out of its shadow. As much as the story and pacing want it to be its own thing, everything else is not letting it be so the movie will always suffer by comparison.
Simply put, while it may be a good film, it's a bad, belated follow up which should not have been made... Flop unsurprising.
Next.
I wish I could disagree on this but yeah. I like Furiosa but yeah in the last 24 hours or since I have seen it it has not gotten better the more I think about it.
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6 minutes ago, cannastop said:
I think Twisters might do pretty well. Maybe for the reason that it's the only July release I'd even consider watching.
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2 minutes ago, kayumanggi said:
We are really counting on those movies. Plus the second half of the year looks stronger than 2023 so there's that to look forward too.
Exactly and that does not discount that in this current moment things are terrible and we can not continue to have long lulls like this which save for March and a few other bright spots has gone on since Barbie and Oppenheimer opened. But I think too many forget a pandemic and 6 month labor strike has really fucked things these last 4 years.
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1 minute ago, Juliet said:
Maybe this summer will teach Hollywood that getting on the back of Marvel and giving it bad PR is not doing them any favours. Actors saying they would 'never lower themselves' to a Marvel movie. Its not going to help the industry. They need Marvel and Star Wars hitting hard so those theatres stay open for their passion project 5 people and a dog will turn up to.
Yep all you people who were sick of the MCU and CBM's dominating and carrying the BO. Well you got your wish for now Happy? until a CBM movie carries the BO at the end of July.
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4 minutes ago, kayumanggi said:
In that case, then we really should not expect breakout hits and lower our expectations because we know that the market is not healthy and that moviegoing is not a popular activity anymore.
Until BB ROD, IO 2, DM 4 DP and W and hopefully QP Day one and Twisters open. Then we can shut up for at least a little while.
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7 minutes ago, filmnerdjamie said:
I don't disagree. Even acknowledging my own first-hand account of a positive test screening months back and liking the script just fine myself.
But Uni/WBD are projecting that "We KNOW we have a winner here" confidence. Not to mention the latter's often-reliable mid/late July slot - which they locked in ages ago - long before Deadpool & Wolverine took the following week out of necessity.
To your point, we all know about how well The Flash tested (and how often we were reminded about it) and while Beetlejuice Beetlejuice did test well too... I'm not confident there after seeing that last trailer.
I was going to say that. They seem to be projecting the we know we have a winner with Twisters and not in the Flash flop sweat Tom Cruise loved it and it's the best thing since sliced bread way.
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4 minutes ago, filmnerdjamie said:
I don't disagree. Even acknowledging my own first-hand account of a positive test screening months back and liking the script just fine myself.
But Uni/WBD are projecting that "We KNOW we have a winner here" confidence. Not to mention the latter's often-reliable mid/late July slot - which they locked in ages ago - long before Deadpool & Wolverine took the following week out of necessity.
To your point, we all know about how well The Flash tested (and how often we were reminded about it) and while Beetlejuice Beetlejuice did test well too... I'm not confident there after seeing that last trailer.
I was going to say that. They seem to be projecting the we know we have a winner with Twisters and not in the Flash flop sweat Tom Cruise loved it and it's the best thing since sliced bread way.
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3 minutes ago, wildphantom said:
I think it could do that. I’ve been flying the Twisters flag for months, so I’m not about to give up now. I think it will surprise everybody.This movie will play huge in the middle of America. If the quality is there. This will be the movie that some people still think Horizons is going to be for that audience.
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Weekend Numbers [05.24 - 05.27, 2024] | 4-day actuals | 32.3M FURIOSA: A MAD MAX SAGA | 31.3M THE GARFIELD MOVIE | 22.3M IF | 17.6M KINGDOM OF THE PLANET OF THE APES
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Good point on all that. I just feel that all those examples you gave all had a lot more going them then Garfield. The live action movies from 20 years ago are terrible and they are only remembered now as a joke for Bill Murray to tell in Zombieland. Sure Mario has the terrible live action movie from 30 years ago but it still was one of the most popular video game series all these years for all ages. As some people pointed out kids are not interested in Garfield. It's more nostalgic adults that read it as a kid and maybe/probably still do. As for Twisters yeah I am bullish but yeah you never know. We will see in 7 weeks whether it can hit or not.