MovieMan89

I'd say realistically TGD needs to hit 500m WW to be profitable. That certainyl doesn't seem like a lock right now. But yes, with home media sales and merchandise it should eventually be profitable at least.

It may already be happening to Pixar. TGD is far from a guaranteed hit now with that kind of opening and budget.

Sorry to do this, but feel the need to do updated Pixar rankings/grades since I actually haven't done them in awhile and I've re-watched a lot of their films this year: 1. Toy Story 3: A+ 2. Wall-E: A+ 3. Finding Nemo: A+ 4. Up: A+ 5. The Incredibles: A+ 6. Toy Story 2: A+ 7. Toy Story: A+ 8. Ratatouille: A+ 9. Inside Out: A- 10. The Good Dinosaur: A- 11. Monsters Inc: A- 12. Brave: B- 13. Monsters University: B- 14. A Bug's Life: B- 15. Cars: B- 16. Cars 2: D+

Well I think your age demo must definitely be the target, because the only person I know who wants to see it is my 15 year old nephew.

Yeah the marketing for it did seem to really cool off in the last month for some reason. They were doing great before that. I'm also wondering if animation oversaturation finally kicked in this year. I mean we had 3 really big animated hits released between June and September, and now two months later two more were released and expected to do big numbers. That's why I was never predicting big numbers for Peanuts, but it did better than I thought actually. The demand for that market may simply be exhausted by now though, and as far as we know TGD is only even doing this because it is Pixar. Would've been nice if it could've had the month to itself for animation. I do expect more big budget animation underperformers in the years to come as they saturate the market even more. Next summer could be a disaster for everything besides Dory and Pets given there's also Ice Age 5, Angry Birds, Ratchet and Clank, and Kubo and the Two Strings in the mix (and Pete's Dragon is part animation). And next Holiday has 3 of the big 4 releasing, with Trolls, Moana, and Sing.

I only ever saw one trailer for it, attached to Spectre of all things, and it looked abysmal.

Really sad for TGD. It is closer to Rise of the Guardian's 5 day opening than Frozen's. Not sure I get what the deal is there, especially since a mere few weeks ago many were predicting a 5 day opening higher than Frozen and tracking suggested that as well. It better have great WOM or I will officially be angry about its performance.

Really hoping TGD can go up at least 1m with actuals. A Sat increase would be nice too, but that almost never happens thanksgiving weekend.

MJ2 and TGD's jumps are both kinda disappointing using similar comparisons, if those numbers don't go up. Creed's is great.

Looks like deadline is saying $20.8m for MJ2, $15.1m for TGD, and $11.2m for Creed today. Also say numbers could go up though.

Titanic being R would have made its performance impossible.

Well Scott was insistent upon trying to "surprise" people that it was connected to Alien, despite us all knowing. Wouldn't be surprised if he Lucas's the title to Alien: Prometheus down the line.

Well I love it! I feel confident I can score a buttload of points with it.

Which is still like 40m today, and not released over the Holidays either. I say 50 bare minimum for DH, and it really should be pulling 75 with ease.

I totally disagree. Ferrell has never gone that low in this kind of a movie, and there's no reason to expect him to start now. Again, especially since it looks like they're trying to give it a family skew which will be appealing over Xmas. If families just want to laugh and don't want something like SW, I can honestly see DH being the top choice. Remember, even Jack and Jill grossed 75m releasing as a family skewed comedy over the Holidays. You can't tell me DH's marketing has made it look worse than that.

Ferrell is far more bankable at the BO in a comedy than Fey or Poehler, so I for sure disagree with Sisters having a better shot. Semi-Pro is one of the only times Ferrell has had a dud at the BO in a straight up comedy this millennium. All the rest pretty much adjust to 100 or more. Get Hard didn't look any better than Daddy's Home, and still pulled $90m. And Daddy's Home looks like a light PG-13 that is trying to target most of the family for Xmas. So I definitely think Daddy's Home has a chance at 100. Heart of the Sea is going to take a massive second weekend nosedive making it nearly impossible for it to hit 100 unless it pulls like a 40m+ OW, which I highly doubt. Alvin will need massive SW sellout overflows to hit 100, and even then I doubt it. Next to no chance for The Revenant since Inarritu does not make films for mainstream audiences and it sounds like that is especially true for this one. So yeah, definitely sticking with DH as the only potential #30. Assuming Hateful Eight and Joy even make 100, which are no locks either.

SW should definitely pull it ahead, but yeah this year at the BO will essentially be all about the DOM top ten, and everything else was an afterthought. May be the first year since '08 we don't get 30 100m grossers either. We're at 24 and TGD, Creed, and SW are the only other three locked to do it. Good chance for Joy and The Hateful Eight but that would still bring it to just 29. Daddy's Home would probably be the only potential #30.

A run similar to Tangled is probably the best case scenario for TGD now. And I have faith it can do that. I am really counting on it being one of the top choices for SW sell out overflows next month, so I am hoping it is one movie SW actually helps not hurts.

Oh I definitely think it's better than The Croods or Ice Age, as well as a completely different film, I just felt critics were harsh on both of those as well. Which I find interesting since all three do share that primitive man interacting with prehistoric creatures theme. Thankfully, Ice Age and The Croods both had fantastic WOM, so hopefully TGD will have that in common with them as well.

The fact that it is below MU, Brave, and Cars on RT in average rating is legitimately frustrating me. There is simply no objective way it isn't better than those. Critics are absolutely being harsh for whatever reason. It is interesting too, because critics were also unfairly harsh on Ice Age and The Croods, which I thought both deserved significantly better reviews. I am beginning to think they have some sort of weird vendetta against animated films with this kind of theme.

We have no idea what its WOM is yet.

All I'm saying is there's probably no film out right now that is more deserving of the big screen. TGD is one of those best in the theater movies we don't always get these days. And if you like Pixar I really can't see how you wouldn't at least moderately enjoy it.

You should really reconsider. There has never been a Pixar film more worth seeing on the big screen (or more worth 3d). Not by a long shot. As I said, it would have been incredible if this could have been IMAX.

Amazingly you haven't missed a whole lot since Ant Man came out. Though MI5 should definitely be on your watch list if you like espionage, if you haven't already seen it at home.

That's pretty great for MJ2. Only half a mil behind MJ1 on Thanksgiving, which did $57m for the weekend. If MJ2 does that it's looking at a fantastic 45% second weekend drop. Getting nervous for TGD now. It is going to really need a massive Friday bump to pull off a decent opening now.