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1 hour ago, Baumer loves Dory said:
I don't pull numbers out of my ass and I don't make things up. I usually spend about 20 or 30 minutes looking at historical data. You should try doing the same thing. Just go to Box Office Mojo and check out what other films have done on the second weekend in August.
Really worked well for ID2 winning the summer & Pets beating Dory!
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1 hour ago, Baumer loves Dory said:
And GOTG fell just like this and recovered on the weekend. So will SS.
310-335 is happening
In the immortal words of mr. Andrews from the Titanic, it's a mathematical certainty.
No it's not, I see a little chance at the backend of that range sorry.
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Original is really funny, just hope this doesn't suffer the same fate as Anchorman 2. Trailer was aight.
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Deadpool has to be opening of the year now, I don't see anything else surprising to that level on the schedule.
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21 minutes ago, Baumer said:
How is 250 WW (if it hits that) anything but horrible? They spent about 250 or more making it. Strange film for u to defend.
The reasons for WWW for Ghostbusters have been repeated throughout the entire project, agree or not?
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3 minutes ago, Tele the Jet Baller said:
At a guess, 61% drop today, +13% Tuesday, -31% Wednesday, -11% Thursday.
Thats far too reasonable, need a bit more chaos in those numbers.
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If the hype was all positive coming in & the issues behind why they would fail weren't discussed plenty before for both these films (again Trek didn't really "fail"), I'd see the point. Alas that's not what happened... There was plenty of skepticism (& rightly so) for each since they were announced.
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4 minutes ago, nilephelan said:
I don't think they are going to be fine with losing a shitload of money.
Yeah bad word choice, what I meant to say is it's not unexpected given the hype leading in. Clearly the budget was too much but it's far from Sony's only or worst blunder in recent history.
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1 minute ago, Blaze Heatnix said:
What return? Ghostbusters so far has made zero profit.
It has a budget of 144 million + at least 100 million for marketing. That means a production budget of 244 million. So far, it has made 116 million domestic and it has had smaller overseas grosses than the Fantastic Four reboot ( FF made 111 million, while Ghostbusters has made 62 million so far, and very few markets are left ).
If producers only keep 50-55% from domestic grosses and a smaller ammount overseas, that means they didn't even make back the money they spent with this movie. So, chances are they won't be seeing a profit soon.
Don't forget Sony gave up The Amazing Spider Man series, after TASM 2 went on to make 703 million worldwide. Sony even had revealed TASM 3, 4 and even a Venom movie. They all belong to a trash can now, though, just like a possible Ghostbusters sequel.
Sure, strange things have happened, like a GI Joe sequel called Retaliation. The first GI Joe had a huge 175 million budget ( plus marketing ) and it only made 300 million worldwide. I guess toys and dvds probably were sold a lot.
Correct, I tried to clarify below. The studio is losing $ but it's not as big of a disaster as quite a few other films we've seen the summer that didn't have any WWW.
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Fine= write down shouldn't be too much. They did spend a bunch on marketing but should be able to recoup a decent portion through HV/TV rights.
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WWW should be for genuine flops not movies that did what was expected lol. Ghostbusters had unprecedented negative hype coming in. Studio will be fine with the return, not like it bombed.
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4 minutes ago, Jayhawk said:
The WW grosses is what really killed both of them. The DOM grosses were decent enough.
They both are largely American films who haven't penetrated at all WW. Don't get that argument just like I don't get this thread. Where is the WWW for BvS or ID2?
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Considering the drops we are seeing industry wide this summer, who agrees a WWW for Trek 3 is a bit silly?
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I think the premise of this thread is silly ESP for STB after STID. Nothing went wrong with either IMO, they did what they were expected to.
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1 minute ago, Noctis said:
I still can't bring myself to watch it...
NOLAN.
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15 minutes ago, superweirdo87 said:
Yeah, Suicide Squad's OW is astonishing. It also has to be somewhat heartening to the industry. It is really concerning how movies that turned in solid performances but did not break the 300M mark are depleting, and how there does not seem to be much outside of the biggest hits because of millienials' feelings about moviegoing. But, there is still an audience for theatrical movies.
Astonishing? Easy there...
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Just now, cannastop said:
Well, I think you could argue that Cap 3 was better received.
Lol what? Well I guess from a technicality standpoint on it grossing more $ but the margin between the 2 is far closer than anyone thought possible at the beginning of the year.
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This clinches Deadpool was the best ROI CBM & also best recieved right? What a crazy year.
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1 minute ago, Biggestgeekever said:
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/alltime/days/saturdaydrops.htm
Fault and HP8 both dropped over 50% on Saturday.
HP8 also opened to $91m lol...
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1 minute ago, DealWithIt said:
If you ignore that Harley steals the show, sure. Margot will blow up in popularity after this.
She already had her "break out" in tWoWS.
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Will Smith effect seems to be officially over & Margot Robbie isn't a draw (yet)... I know that's harsh but that's where we are at.
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I don't have anything against SS since I haven't seen it yet & don't know too much about the source material...
Having said that, glad to see many of our reads on this being front loaded look to be correct. The surprise is the level of the correction.
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Where is @James? I want to hear more about how $150m/TDK is LOCKED...
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In the history of movies performing at this level even if we split previews-Friday day-Saturday... this drop is just so hilarious.
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Wed#s SS 9.81 Guru....many soft drops for a Wednesday....Jesus Christ, that's a soft drop for Bourne, Sexy Legs for Moms, Pets -28% from last week and going for IO, FTSBF less than 10% drop....no sign of THE V
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100% right which is why assuming there will be a huge jump (bigger than expected) for SS tomorrow is misguided IMO.