Spidey Freak

They should but Avi Arad has some weird terms like Spidey being the protagonist of any Avenger movie he appears in. Feige and co. will have none of that. Maybe it's for the better as Spidey is marginalised as the wisecracking goofball youngster rookie whenever he joins Earth's Mightiest.

Ok, what dash said about us not being a hive mind. Also, read my previous post again and see where I am coming from when I talk about depth. Though okay, depth may not be the most appropriate term as I don't know how many individual Trek characters and their respective worlds/backstories/POVs are as fleshed out as the Marvel heroes. But what about tonal diversity and the different macro and micro levels of storytelling in the MCU? Surely that has to account for something? Especially genre versatility. You did scoff at the notion of the MCU being bigger than the Trek-verse so I don't think my feelings are any stronger either. I'm sorry if it was demeaning towards ST. I do believe it is a worthy opponent for the title of biggest universe. I still think you are writing MCU off too easily especially when the universe building as just begun and they are trying something entirely novel in terms of budget and challenging the concept of mass appeal.

Is the thread comparing ONLY quantity though? I actually think it is a quantity : quality ratio. But even if we stick to only "quantity", then even if MCU starts its space exploration with Guardians-- actually scratch that, we've already visited some of the Nine Realms of the Milky Way other than Earth through the Thor movies and I'm sure we will visit the others, especially Hel, in Thor 3 and beyond. And again, that's just the Milky Way. Thanos and his quest to acquire the Infinity Stones will be the first storyline to involve locations outside of this galaxy. So you see, Marvel just doesn't singularly expand its universe like Trek. It is building a fully fleshed nucleus in Earth, and around that the Nine Realms like the inner orbit of protons, and around that the rest of the universe like the outer orbit of the protons. And each of these layers will be given depth. And again, each of the major alien races we will encounter: Inhumans, Celestials, Kree and Skrull, Asgardians etc. all have their nuanced cultures and complicated structures of hierarchy. The Inhumans, Kree and Skrull all have monarchies and constantly war with each other (Kree and Skrull) by expanding their respective forces by conquering worlds and forcing them to bend their knee to their command (Think of it as Lannisters or Targaryeans conquering different Westeros regions and forcing the ruling lords of those regions to be their bannermen during times of war) and also try to make alliances through marriage to other ruling families or leaders of alien races to ensure universal peace and influence (Inhumans). Yeah, so it IS Game of Thrones on a universal level, if you think about it. Not to mention races like the Inhumans and Asgardians get/will get their own movies, set in their own worlds, about their royal families and unique cultures, customs and physiological nature. And then we have the alien scalawags like the Guardians. The protagonists in Star Trek stories of any nature are 99% of the time members of an Enterprise crew. The Celestials on the other hand are almost God-like (in the comics, they were the ones responsible for Earth mutants through their experimentation on human being millenia ago) and very spiritually advanced, giving the MCU yet another layer. And then there's Earth, of course. On the global scale, you've got The Avengers. On a national scale, you've got the Earth-based solo films barring the international adventuring/spy caper that may be a potential Black Widow movie. And on a micro scale, stuff like the four Netflix shows (Luke Cage, Daredevil, Iron Fist and Jessica Jones) all set in different parts of Hell's Kitchen. And then there's the oddball Doctor Strange, which is technically an Earth story for the most part, but whose scope travels well beyond the physical limits of the planet. The title pushes the boundaries of consciousness and dimensions of space and time. Kind of like a spiritual/magical Doctor Who. So you see, that is quantity too. Quantity in length, breadth and depth. Quantity in tone and diversity. And all of this can and will be covered in ten years or less.

Also remember that DM2 was THE animated summer event of last year and not MU. So the summer really benefits from a big animated property, whether it is from Pixar or not. Unfortunately, Dragon didn't prove to be a viable franchise on that level. The main reason why this summer seems this lacklustre, among many others.

True, but Disney Animation could have filled their void if they didn't mark the holiday season as their territory instead.

A detailed description of the Comic-Con panel: http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=54358 There isn't much that we didn't already know. Though it is confirmed that Fred indeed transforms into a kaiju and it's not a costume like it was depicted in that art book. And also that Honey Lemon was initially supposed to have a "darker complexion", adding fuel to the theory that she is Latina.

Marvel has actually made ScarJo into a BO draw! Unbelievable. Too bad the movie is supposedly dumb.

Eh... I'm sure Marvel makes ten times the revenue (if not more) of what the Star Trek property brings in.

Lol you just contradicted yourself there. If you agree that MCU is better, then that is because it has more depth than Trek. As for scope, the MCU is fundamentally based on time and space too. This will be further explored when Doctor Strange comes along and when the Infinity Gems/Stones are analysed in further detail. Possibly in Thor 3 and GotG 2. Not to mention beyond Phase 3, when Inhumans, the Celestials and the Kree and Skrull saga may come into play. At that point, there will be nothing to beat the MCU in its vast depth/scope combination. Sure Trekkers may have more planets and races, but on a whole, the depth is hardly there to a whooping majority of those races as compared to the major ones in the MCU.

I'd say Winter Soldier, Avengers and IM/IM3 all aspired to be greater than light entertainment but of course, since the MCU films don't hammer their themes and messages into skulls like say "gritty DC", those messages usually go over some folk's heads. And they come away with just the cosmetic jokes. Trek had decades and decades over the MCU, but seeing how the Marvel Comics Universe is more diverse and has more depth and scope than the Trek-verse in all of the ways you mentioned, the MCU can easily overtake Star Trek in those aspects in another ten years' time.Also, the Earth-based stories in Trek were never as varied and fleshed out as the different Earth-based heroes in the MCU. I love that Marvel is building different stories on Earth before pulling away and showing despite the fleshed depth and conflict on just one planet, the entire thing is still a myopic setting compared to events on a cosmic level. OK, would you like your hat with mustard or chipotle southwest? Coz IM is sure as hell sci-fi. You know that the genre doesn't just allude to aliens and space travel right? The specifics of the suits and stuff like Extremis are as sci-fi as anything in Star Wars.Also, we haven't even scratched the surface with the MCU. Guardians, Age of Ultron and Doctor Strange are when we actually begin to explore the meat of the universe. Strange by itself raises questions relating to metaphysics, spirituality, time, space and psychology in a fantasy setting and on a level never quite explored on the big screen before.Also, war and period drama (check with Cap), crime drama (soon to be checked with the FOUR Netflix shows). As for family drama, that's what the Avengers basically are. Of course, the movie rights to Marvel properties that handle this theme with less subtlety are not owned by Disney (Spidey, FF and X-Men). But the Avengers and soon the Guardians are families in their own rights. Not to mention the literal family dynamics explored in the Thor movies and IM2. And the Hamletian aspect of Black Panther, when that property makes it on the big screen.

They may wrap up with seven seasons. I don't see Winds of Winter stretching much into Season 7. Same way as I don't see a substantial amount of Dance being featured in Season 6.

Fucking good. Seems like Quentyn hasn't made the cut either. I think this suggests Arianne doesn't really have much of a bearing on the end game even in the books.No Griff/Young Griff though? Expecting that to change but wouldn't be too surprised if they were cut for more focus on the King's Landing story. That description of the High Sparrow makes him sound like a politically ambitious messiah figure. Love the direction they are going with him.

My favorite flight scene in animation is the one at the beginning of The Rescuers Down Under. Now THAT would have been glorious in 3D!

How could you tell that with the Olaf/Sven teaser?

Well, I've suffered through Puss in Boots and I can confirm that it had no business being nominated over Arthur Christmas. Or Pooh '11, though I haven't seen that one yet. Still, it couldn't be worse than PiB which was nearing Shrek the Turd levels of lazy cash grabbiness.

Cartoon Cartoons was so epic. Dexter's Laboratory! Powerpuff Girls! Johnny Bravo!

Lol the resolution for this! I remember the evil sponge book being one of the rare instances where Goosebumps didn't have its typically ambiguous ending. Man, those endings were frustrating and thrilling at the same time!

Valar Dohaeris... Walt Disney.

Yes, chances are this may not turn out to be this generation's The Shining.

You are making me miss my 90's childhood so much, man!

Goosebumps was very specifically a late 90's fad. So I can see why Nevada missed it as it was a little before his time. I assume all the fans here are in their early to mid 20's. AKA The Disney Renaissance Toddlers.

Give Yourself Goosebumps! YES, that's what that series was called! :DHaha, I can easily see why The Ghost Next Door was one of your faves! That was the first book to get me teary-eyed! And DAT TWIST! Shyamalan is such a rip-off!!!!!

The scariest one for me was actually the very first Goosebumps, Welcome to Dead House. I wonder if the zombies in the movie stills are from that book?

I wonder if they adlibbed that after being frustrated with Young Hayden lol. In the books, Night of the Living Dummy I with the twin girls was easily the spookiest. In fact, the first ten Goosebumps were easily the most scariest and then it started getting campy or more adventure driven.

Yeah and it's not like Latinas can't be blonde. Cameron Diaz anyone?