Weekend Estimates : BVS 52.39M | Zootopia 20M | Wedding 11.13M | God's Not Dead 8.1M | Sun Rth - Bvs 12 or 14.2, Zoo 5.3, MBFGW2 2.8, GND2 2

[EmpireCity]

1 minute ago, Telemachos said:

 

Aren't these two statements at odds? The Batfleck script isn't greenlit yet. In fact, aside from the fact it exists, we have no idea how ready it is for production. How is that not rushing, while JL would be?

 

I'm talking about not rushing the DC Universe as a whole by jumping into a Justice League film before you have even established most of the players in their own movies.  

 

You might be right on the rushing question, but they still have a lot of the elements in place for production and could take 3-4 months here for extra prep and shoot late summer and have post production time to get it ready for Nov. 2017

 

Tight turn around, but with it likely being a smaller scope compared to JL it would be possible.  

 

Whatever happens, the results of Batman v Superman throws a huge monkey wrench into their plans.  They simply cannot move forward with Zack Snyder.  

[SWXII]

16 minutes ago, CJohn said:

Vote The Rock Obama!

 

 

The Rock is a Republican. 

 

This is like matter and anti-matter meeting. 

 

 After Wrestlemania hopefully. Shane must complete the takeover first.

[a2k]

So..took

3 Saturday Bumps : 35%, 40%, 45%

and 2 Sunday Decreases : 35%, 40%

giving 6 different combinations (+35% Sat and -35% Sun, +35% Sat and -40% Sun, +40% Sat and -35% Sun....etc) and projected the weekend with each combo.

 

 

Min is 48.51m

Max is 52.07m

Mean was 50.29m

 

 

[TimmyRiggins]

Once again, Justice League is not going to be delayed, they're shooting in 9 DAYS. I understand the denial if you didn't like the film and somehow believe that Zack will "ruin" JL, but face the reality, and most of all, realize the insanity of what you are saying. WB signed off on that vision, Snyder is not the bad guy, everyone signed off on it, should they have released the ultimate cut in theaters instead of the theatrical one? maybe, we'll see when it's out, I love the film but I bet when people see it, there'll be that question "why didn't they release this", all of that to say, it's not just Zack steering the ship, he's the director but this is a cinematic universe and there are a lot of cooks in the kitchen.

 

Now WB is not dumb, they'll be listening to criticism and correct that in Justice League, and it's not like Zack is incapable of doing a movie with a lighter tone, if he has to, he'll adapt. It's dangerous throwing around declarations like "he doesn't know what he's doing, WB doesn't know what they're doing" like nobody cares about those characters, like they're doing it on purpose. 

 

Sometimes it just happens, what you thought people would like, they don't like so much, big deal, you learn from the mistakes (if you consider them mistakes once again) and you deliver something that will get more love. Let's not forget that there have only been two movies in the DCEU, they're learning the ropes, they're doing it another way and even if it the audience overall was very mixed on the film, the DCEU is still launched and it's there, and it's staying.

 

And there will be many more DC films that will not have Zack directing for those who are scared of that and will have distinct voices, and different tones, and different vibes. No fear.

[Nova]

This box office performance has stunned and silenced BvS fans, the same way Cristiano Ronaldo has just stunned and silenced Camp Nou 

[Mango]

I'm betting Batfleck is going to begin production sooner or later. I could see WB pulling a Marvel/Spidey thing and shifting the schedule a bit to fit it into 2018.

[EmpireCity]

Warner Bros. is so fucked, and a whole lot of people saw this coming.  They hid their head in the sand and hoped for the best.  Should have never moved forward with Zack Snyder and it is going to cost them a shitload of money.  

[SWXII]

1 minute ago, Nova said:

This box office performance has stunned and silenced BvS fans, the same way Cristiano Ronaldo has just stunned and silenced Camp Nou 

 

Not me. I still love the movie and remain optimistic the ultimate edition will be an A+

[department store basement]

If the solo Batman film goes into production so soon without a good script we'll have an Allegiant situation on our hands.

Edited April 2, 2016 by department store basement

[Dementeleus]

4 minutes ago, nilephelan said:

 

I'm talking about not rushing the DC Universe as a whole by jumping into a Justice League film before you have even established most of the players in their own movies.  

 

You might be right on the rushing question, but they still have a lot of the elements in place for production and could take 3-4 months here for extra prep and shoot late summer and have post production time to get it ready for Nov. 2017

 

Tight turn around, but with it likely being a smaller scope compared to JL it would be possible.  

 

Whatever happens, the results of Batman v Superman throws a huge monkey wrench into their plans.  They simply cannot move forward with Zack Snyder.  

 

If WB decides to act dramatically, I think what's more likely is Snyder stepping into a producer/EP capacity while WB gets a competent journeyman as director for the existing project. 

[Dementeleus]

1 minute ago, nilephelan said:

Warner Bros. is so fucked, and a whole lot of people saw this coming.  They hid their head in the sand and hoped for the best.  Should have never moved forward with Zack Snyder and it is going to cost them a shitload of money.  

 

I don't really buy this sturm und drang. 

[a2k]

2 minutes ago, Telemachos said:

 

I don't really buy this sturm und drang. 

 

Sturm und Drang, (German: “Storm and Stress”), German literary movement of the late 18th century that exalted nature, feeling, and human individualism and sought to overthrow the Enlightenment cult of Rationalism.

 

Just of the top of my head. Did not google it.

[CJohn]

Cristiano Ronaldo just mudered the Camp Nou.

[tonytr87]

1 hour ago, a2knet said:

 

Agree. Snyder has shown more depth in his earlier works. Watchmen was great imo. Can't put blame on one person.

Be it director of Casino Royale giving us GL or director of Incredible giving us Tomorrowland or of SM1 giving us SM3.

 

Tomorrowland is a much better movie than BvS though. 

 

Martin Campbell only makes good movies when he's doing Bond. That's his MO. 

 

Snyder's been on a downward trajectory since Sucker Punch. I think Watchmen's box office performance changed the way he made movies. 

[department store basement]

2 minutes ago, tonytr87 said:

 

Tomorrowland is a much better movie than BvS though. 

 

Martin Campbell only makes good movies when he's doing Bond. That's his MO. 

 

Snyder's been on a downward trajectory since Sucker Punch. I think Watchmen's box office performance changed the way he made movies. 

 

What do you think of Brett Ratner and Joel Schumacher?

 

(Just asking because those are the 2 directors most hated for their CBMs)

Edited April 2, 2016 by department store basement

[CJohn]

1 minute ago, tonytr87 said:

 

Tomorrowland is a much better movie than BvS though. 

Ahahahahahahahhahahahahhahahaha no.

[Dementeleus]

5 minutes ago, a2knet said:

 

Sturm und Drang, (German: “Storm and Stress”), German literary movement of the late 18th century that exalted nature, feeling, and human individualism and sought to overthrow the Enlightenment cult of Rationalism.

 

Just of the top of my head. Did not google it.

 

I just meant the literal term, not the movement.  

[EmpireCity]

4 minutes ago, TimmyRiggins said:

Once again, Justice League is not going to be delayed, they're shooting in 9 DAYS. I understand the denial if you didn't like the film and somehow believe that Zack will "ruin" JL, but face the reality, and most of all, realize the insanity of what you are saying. WB signed off on that vision, Snyder is not the bad guy, everyone signed off on it, should they have released the ultimate cut in theaters instead of the theatrical one? maybe, we'll see when it's out, I love the film but I bet when people see it, there'll be that question "why didn't they release this", all of that to say, it's not just Zack steering the ship, he's the director but this is a cinematic universe and there are a lot of cooks in the kitchen.

 

Now WB is not dumb, they'll be listening to criticism and correct that in Justice League, and it's not like Zack is incapable of doing a movie with a lighter tone, if he has to, he'll adapt. It's dangerous throwing around declarations like "he doesn't know what he's doing, WB doesn't know what they're doing" like nobody cares about those characters, like they're doing it on purpose. 

 

Sometimes it just happens, what you thought people would like, they don't like so much, big deal, you learn from the mistakes (if you consider them mistakes once again) and you deliver something that will get more love. Let's not forget that there have only been two movies in the DCEU, they're learning the ropes, they're doing it another way and even if it the audience overall was very mixed on the film, the DCEU is still launched and it's there, and it's staying.

 

And there will be many more DC films that will not have Zack directing for those who are scared of that and will have distinct voices, and different tones, and different vibes. No fear.

 

This makes zero sense.  A whole lot of people were screaming from the rooftops (as was the box office performance) after MOS that the tone was wrong and Snyder was not the right guy, but they put their head in the sand and moved forward with Batman v Superman.  Now it has them the most negative reviews ever on Rotten Tomatoes, a shitload of terrible PR and about $400m in profits.    

 

You say "they'll be listening to criticism and correct that", but WB and Zack Snyder were blatantly told after MOS by critics and audiences alike that what brought that movie down was the super duper serious tone and the mindless CG destruction without an ounce of fun.  So what did he do with that info?  He went and made an even more bloated, loud, super duper serious tone with even more mindless CG destruction.  

 

They didn't learn a single thing.  I would even go as far as to say critics and people have been politely telling them the problems with comics and Snyder back when Watchmen came out.  

 

 

[tonytr87]

1 minute ago, department store basement said:

 

What do you think of Brett Ratner and Joel Schumacher?

 

Schumacher is an okay example of what you're talking about. Phone Booth and A Time to Kill are good movies. And I've heard good things about some of his other older movies. 

 

I've never been impressed by a Ratner movie though. The best thing he's done (Family Man) is still schmaltz. 

[a2k]

1 minute ago, Telemachos said:

 

I just meant the literal term, not the movement.  

 

ok. I was like Tele has thrown a real tough one this time.