baumer Posted July 9, 2012 Author Share Posted July 9, 2012 I just sent this to Shawn, I think i's fair that all of you know as well.A couple of members contacted Shawn and said that I had changed some of my answers over the past couple of weeks. They provided screen shots to him and he confronted me about it. I of course denied it at first, because that is the human condition, deny when caught.But I have a guilty conscience and it took me 12 hours to fess up to Shawn. Here is the message I sent him:Hi Shawn,Well, here's the short answer to this, and believe me there is a longer one I could post, but I'll leave it at this (you don't need to hear about personal problems).I did change my answer I believe twice. Once was SOTM5, a few days later when I recalculated. The other was an answer during one of the weeks. I know this can affect the outcome of the game but it was not done with absolute malicious intentions. I did it because I answered my answers too quickly and threw an answer in and later came back to change them to what i wanted. This doesn't make it right or just in any way. It's cheating and I have to fess up to this. Other members I'm sure are rushed and they do not have the option of going back in to change their answers. The part of this that has been bothering me though is I give a lot of leeway to other players in the game. I have:1) accpeted answers after the deadline with honestly half the players2) accepted answers from people by pm because they forgot to answer some pre season questions3) provided makeup questions for anyone who has missed one week or a certain answer or because they didn't take the time to read the thread when there was an update. 4) changed aspects of the game because some members don't like the direction it is heading5) included other types of questions in the game to appease certain segments and demographics in the game.6) removed those questions later because it wasn't what some wanted the game to evolve to.7) gone back to award points to players 5-6-8 weeks later because they went back and re-checked the scoring, even though is supposed to be done the weekend of.The point is, and not to excuse my behavior because I cheated plain and simple, but I am very approachable and lenient in this game because it is a game. And as you know I put a lot of work into this and pay out my own money. It takes about 2 hours to score every night and countless others to run the game smoothly.The whole point of this rant is that if someone had a problem with my changing the answers, they should have come to me and confronted me first instead of going to Shawn. This leads me to believe that I have some people who are at odds with me as a member, a mod and maybe as a person. Shawn owns the forums, but it is my game. I should have been given the courtesy to hear about it first from the one(s) who reported me.I'll re-itterate this one more time. I didn't do this to win the game, my scores are not that good every week to begin with. I've just had three good results that put me in third for the first time since maybe the second year of the game. If I was doing it to win, I would have changed a lot more. But, and there is no way around this, I cheated, plain and simple and for that I should be admonished for doing so.It started with removing myself from the game. If I continue this game in the future, I will never participate as a player again. I feel bad for this but it was not my intention to cause any problems.I have already informed the players that I am no longer playing. AA and Shawn, you are both my friends outside of this place and I'm sorry to put you both through this. Again, not done with personal gain involved. But as they say, haste makes waste and that is my biggest problem.DanSo as you can see what I did was wrong and there's no way around it. I took liberties with the game that I never should have.For this I apologize to all of the playes who put in so much effort every week. I let you all down. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJohn Posted July 9, 2012 Share Posted July 9, 2012 With great power comes great responsabilty. You cheating bastard :PI would do the same (changing my answers) so I will just accept your decision of not playing any longer this year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XenoZodiac Posted July 9, 2012 Share Posted July 9, 2012 What? :mellow: Seriously??? You thought I was not joking? Or I am such an idiot that I would actually post it here unless its meant for fun? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJohn Posted July 9, 2012 Share Posted July 9, 2012 Seriously??? You thought I was not joking? Or I am such an idiot that I would actually post it here unless its meant for fun? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fake Posted July 9, 2012 Share Posted July 9, 2012 I don't think you should have done it baumer, whether answers were rushed or not.But I am laughing my ass off at the guy who complained to Shawn (screenshots? really?)..... dude, whoever you are, you seriously need to get a life.... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJohn Posted July 9, 2012 Share Posted July 9, 2012 I am curious about the identity of that person. Did he took like screenshots every week until he catched Baumer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baumer Posted July 9, 2012 Author Share Posted July 9, 2012 I'm curious myself. I just wish that person would have come to me first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fake Posted July 9, 2012 Share Posted July 9, 2012 baumer said a couple.... so there is more than one loser here.... :PYes, you were right to have a problem if you found someone changing the answers, I would've had too.... but like baumer said, you should have confronted him first. But what is the deal with screenshots? You got nothing better to do?And FYI, baumer already had this game in the bad, he didn't need to change any answer to win the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tawasal Posted July 9, 2012 Share Posted July 9, 2012 I just sent this to Shawn, I think i's fair that all of you know as well.A couple of members contacted Shawn and said that I had changed some of my answers over the past couple of weeks. They provided screen shots to him and he confronted me about it. I of course denied it at first, because that is the human condition, deny when caught.But I have a guilty conscience and it took me 12 hours to fess up to Shawn. Here is the message I sent him:Hi Shawn,Well, here's the short answer to this, and believe me there is a longer one I could post, but I'll leave it at this (you don't need to hear about personal problems).I did change my answer I believe twice. Once was SOTM5, a few days later when I recalculated. The other was an answer during one of the weeks. I know this can affect the outcome of the game but it was not done with absolute malicious intentions. I did it because I answered my answers too quickly and threw an answer in and later came back to change them to what i wanted. This doesn't make it right or just in any way. It's cheating and I have to fess up to this. Other members I'm sure are rushed and they do not have the option of going back in to change their answers. The part of this that has been bothering me though is I give a lot of leeway to other players in the game. I have:1) accpeted answers after the deadline with honestly half the players2) accepted answers from people by pm because they forgot to answer some pre season questions3) provided makeup questions for anyone who has missed one week or a certain answer or because they didn't take the time to read the thread when there was an update. 4) changed aspects of the game because some members don't like the direction it is heading5) included other types of questions in the game to appease certain segments and demographics in the game.6) removed those questions later because it wasn't what some wanted the game to evolve to.7) gone back to award points to players 5-6-8 weeks later because they went back and re-checked the scoring, even though is supposed to be done the weekend of.The point is, and not to excuse my behavior because I cheated plain and simple, but I am very approachable and lenient in this game because it is a game. And as you know I put a lot of work into this and pay out my own money. It takes about 2 hours to score every night and countless others to run the game smoothly.The whole point of this rant is that if someone had a problem with my changing the answers, they should have come to me and confronted me first instead of going to Shawn. This leads me to believe that I have some people who are at odds with me as a member, a mod and maybe as a person. Shawn owns the forums, but it is my game. I should have been given the courtesy to hear about it first from the one(s) who reported me.I'll re-itterate this one more time. I didn't do this to win the game, my scores are not that good every week to begin with. I've just had three good results that put me in third for the first time since maybe the second year of the game. If I was doing it to win, I would have changed a lot more. But, and there is no way around this, I cheated, plain and simple and for that I should be admonished for doing so.It started with removing myself from the game. If I continue this game in the future, I will never participate as a player again. I feel bad for this but it was not my intention to cause any problems.I have already informed the players that I am no longer playing. AA and Shawn, you are both my friends outside of this place and I'm sorry to put you both through this. Again, not done with personal gain involved. But as they say, haste makes waste and that is my biggest problem.DanSo as you can see what I did was wrong and there's no way around it. I took liberties with the game that I never should have.For this I apologize to all of the playes who put in so much effort every week. I let you all down.That my friend requires balls, honesty and commitment and you have proven yourself to be one helluva of poster to look upto, because I haven't seen till today anyone admit or fess up to anything wrong or mistake they made in here. And it's really big of you to take such a huge punishment for something we all could and maybe do now. I am not accusing anyone of anything, but I am sure there are people who try to and might have succeeded, who knows, but not the point right now. I am not really playing this game baumer if you take yourself out of it, I would rather you take some points from those weeks off your total point so far in the game. You put alot work into this and why should you keep doing it if you are not part of it. I am really dissapointed in the people that would go as far as taking a screenshot of baumer's post just to catch him cheating. Did that person all year long been waiting and obsessed about baumer cheating, that he wouldn't take his eyes of baumers posts. DAMN that's low. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockNrollaDIM Posted July 9, 2012 Share Posted July 9, 2012 Yeah, weird... some people take this shit too seriously. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJohn Posted July 9, 2012 Share Posted July 9, 2012 What Baumer did was wrong. It is the truth. But I can't blame him. He is a mod and, if I am mistaken please correct me, he can change posts and nobody can notice it. I would do the exact same thing. Plain and simple. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJohn Posted July 9, 2012 Share Posted July 9, 2012 Yeah, weird... some people take this shit too seriously.What movie is that in your sig? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockNrollaDIM Posted July 9, 2012 Share Posted July 9, 2012 What movie is that in your sig?Summer Heights High.. it's a TV show from Australia, hysterical, please watch it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJohn Posted July 9, 2012 Share Posted July 9, 2012 Summer Heights High.. it's a TV show from Australia, hysterical, please watch it.Must find a place to download it, since that show doesn't pass in Portugal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fake Posted July 9, 2012 Share Posted July 9, 2012 Must find a place to download it, since that show doesn't pass in Portugal Some things you can't download, for everything else there is torrent. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baumer Posted July 9, 2012 Author Share Posted July 9, 2012 Guys, thank you for the support, but I don't want to turn this into something other than what it is. I did use my moderating capabilities to my advantage and like someone else quoted, "with great power comes great resposnibility". I abused that power. I'm not mad at the person for "catching" me. I'm glad someone noticed because it is 100% wrong.But like I said, I'm a nice guy, I'm very approachable. I would have liked to have been contacted first.I'm not going to play the game. I respect this site and I love the game and believe it or not, I respect anyone and everyone who plays this game. It's a very big commitment on your part. The last thing you need is to wonder whether or not the integrity of the game is in tact. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJohn Posted July 9, 2012 Share Posted July 9, 2012 Guys, thank you for the support, but I don't want to turn this into something other than what it is. I did use my moderating capabilities to my advantage and like someone else quoted, "with great power comes great resposnibility". I abused that power. I was joking when I said that. You know that, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJohn Posted July 9, 2012 Share Posted July 9, 2012 Some things you can't download, for everything else there is torrent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baumer Posted July 9, 2012 Author Share Posted July 9, 2012 I was joking when I said that. You know that, right? Sorry, I couldn't remember that it was you.Yes, I know you were joking, but you are right.I could never be Spiderman. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJohn Posted July 9, 2012 Share Posted July 9, 2012 Sorry, I couldn't remember that it was you. Yes, I know you were joking, but you are right. I could never be Spiderman. "The power... feels good." Sorry, couldn't resist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
