Jayhawk the Hutt Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 Pretty sure the biggest hurdle to getting a distribution deal in the US is Coppola's apparent insistence on a major P&A spend and big backend deal for the producers. Which makes sense as starting point, but he likely will settle for less at the end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cmasterclay Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 4 minutes ago, SpiderByte said: Tree of Life cost 32 million. Oh, I don't give a shit at all what movies cost tbh. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MysteryMovieMogul Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 18 minutes ago, Cmasterclay said: Tree Of Life was also a divisive Cannes release from a long-anticipated master director that plenty of people hated at the time and said was pretentious non-commercial garbage and some said was the great movie of an era. 13 years on, the latter narrative has certainly won out. I'm not saying that this is going to be Tree of Life in terms of quality and long-term reputation, but can absolutely see some parallels. Have either narrative really won out? I legitimately haven't heard about or even thought about this film in years. I never see it referenced by anyone online or off, either. I think people seem to agree it's not a bad film, but "the great movie on an era?" As for this teaser, it looks great, but also it's a series of random shots, so there's really nothing much to work with in this teaser. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cmasterclay Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 Just now, MysteryMovieMogul said: Have either narrative really won out? I legitimately haven't heard about or even thought about this film in years. I never see it referenced by anyone online or off, either. I think people seem to agree it's not a bad film, but "the great movie on an era?" As for this teaser, it looks great, but also it's a series of random shots, so there's really nothing much to work with in this teaser. It's usually ranked among the best films of the century on all the big lists? I don't know if I love it personally, but the people who tend to write the canon of film certainly are elevating it to that level. Obviously that isn't reflected in commercial audiences yet, but as we've discussed in this very thread, 20, 30, 40 years down the line, that kind of evaluation absolutely matters to it finding an audience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kayumanggi Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 This looks like a Snyder movie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cmasterclay Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 It honestly kind of seems to be going for a weird Atlas Shrugged vibe and aesthetic, so Snyder actually kind of tracks given that fascist Randian stuff seems to be his whole deal. Obviously don't think it's going to be a Snyder quality film lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
interiorgatordecorator Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 2 minutes ago, kayumanggi said: This looks like a Snyder movie. ummmmm I agree though that might not be a bad a thing at the end Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kayumanggi Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 Just now, interiorgatordecorator said: ummmmm I agree though that might not be a bad a thing at the end Not really a bad thing since I think it looks good. Let's hope it doesn't feel like a Snyder movie. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpiderByte Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 16 minutes ago, Cmasterclay said: Oh, I don't give a shit at all what movies cost tbh. Oh yes, but distributors absolutely do, and while the movies actual budget is self financed the 100 marketing price tag attached to this is not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WittyUsername Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 7 minutes ago, Cmasterclay said: It honestly kind of seems to be going for a weird Atlas Shrugged vibe and aesthetic, so Snyder actually kind of tracks given that fascist Randian stuff seems to be his whole deal. Obviously don't think it's going to be a Snyder quality film lol. Sigh I see that narrative’s not going to die out anytime soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cmasterclay Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 2 minutes ago, WittyUsername said: Sigh I see that narrative’s not going to die out anytime soon. I don't watch or follow his stuff too closely but I did see 300 and even as a 13 year old it felt mind blowingly....something, which I now recognize is insanely right wing. Can't really speak for his personal beliefs but his fans don't always help his case. But this is the Coppola thread! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cmasterclay Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 5 minutes ago, SpiderByte said: Oh yes, but distributors absolutely do, and while the movies actual budget is self financed the 100 marketing price tag attached to this is not. Sure, I was just talking about the critical revaluation of Tree of Life and how this has some superficial comparisons as a possible upside. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpiderByte Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 13 minutes ago, WittyUsername said: Sigh I see that narrative’s not going to die out anytime soon. I mean he's said he wants to make The Fountainhead into a movie 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WittyUsername Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 (edited) 10 minutes ago, SpiderByte said: I mean he's said he wants to make The Fountainhead into a movie He also said that he doesn’t agree with Ayn Rand’s philosophy, and there’s really nothing about his filmography that’s particularly “Randian”. A major theme in his movies is self-sacrifice, which goes completely against Ayn Rand’s ideals. Snyder said that he likes The Fountainhead specifically for its statements about what it means to be an artist who never compromises. He also said that he no longer intends to make the movie because he believes it’s not the right time for something like that. The idea that he loves Ayn Rand was a narrative that Devin Faraci spread back in 2016. That’s all I’ll say on the matter, because I know that derailing this thread with a topic like that is bound to get me in trouble, if it hasn’t already. Anyway, this movie looks interesting, but I can see why studios would be hesitant to distribute it. It doesn’t look like something with much mainstream appeal, and I would t expect it to be a big Oscar winner. Edited May 14 by WittyUsername 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cmasterclay Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 Leni Riefenstahl probably would have found 300 a little on the nose. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wild Eric Posted May 14 Author Share Posted May 14 Moderation Not the Zack Snyder thread. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpiderByte Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 (edited) Edit, nevermind Edited May 14 by SpiderByte Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dementeleus Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 This looks nutso and I’m so there for it. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dementeleus Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 Also, I think any discussion of budget is essentially moot, just like Horizon. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyGossamer Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 1 hour ago, Cmasterclay said: Tree Of Life was also a divisive Cannes release from a long-anticipated master director that plenty of people hated at the time and said was pretentious non-commercial garbage and some said was the great movie of an era. 13 years on, the latter narrative has certainly won out. I'm not saying that this is going to be Tree of Life in terms of quality and long-term reputation, but can absolutely see some parallels. Thought ToL was delayed purely due to Malick taking a hiatus not due to funding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...