Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania | February 17, 2023 | Competing with Eternals on RT, Competing with BvS on box office legs

[Psylocke]

15 minutes ago, kayumanggi said:

87% verified auds

79% all auds

Verified now down to 84%

[Psylocke]

Actually now 86% but will got down to 70s.

[Cooper Legion]

Yeah this was fine. Not as good as Eternals but nowhere near as bad as ds2 and L&T 

 

This saga is fucked longer term though imo, it’s just a difficult (nearly impossible, shouldn’t have been attempted) concept and the writers they’ve been hiring aren’t up to the task

[Cooper Legion]

Probably B+ and ~250M

[Wormow]

Wow, big surprise! Who would have thought bringing in popular Rick and Morty writers to take on projects in Phases 4 and 5 would be a terrible idea? lol

 

Michael Waldron for Multiverse of Madness, Jeff Loveness for Quantumania and Jessica Gao for She-Hulk... yikes!

Edited February 17, 2023 by Wormow

[WittyUsername]

21 minutes ago, Favorite Fearless Legion said:

Yeah this was fine. Not as good as Eternals but nowhere near as bad as ds2 and L&T 

 

This saga is fucked longer term though imo, it’s just a difficult (nearly impossible, shouldn’t have been attempted) concept and the writers they’ve been hiring aren’t up to the task

Out of curiosity, what route would you have preferred Marvel went after their next saga, instead of the multiverse?

[YM!]

40 minutes ago, WittyUsername said:

Out of curiosity, what route would you have preferred Marvel went after their next saga, instead of the multiverse?

Honestly set up Masters of Evil and mutants that saga. Would be interesting in a post Blip world and would bring up some interesting themes about the roles these heroes have.

[WittyUsername]

5 minutes ago, YM! said:

Honestly set up Masters of Evil and mutants that saga. Would be interesting in a post Blip world and would bring up some interesting themes about the roles these heroes have.

Personally, instead of focusing on mutants, I’d rather they spend more time focusing on the Fantastic Four, and setting up Dr. Doom as the next Thanos. I think they could still have done NWH the way we got it, though. 

[XXRDJisDoctorDoom]

AMQ is my favorite film of Phase 5!

[Cooper Legion]

Worst film of phase 5

[Willowra]

Honestly, people need to stop this "quality, quality" chant. A B+ cinemascore and an 80%+ RT audience score are good scores, tbh. A score of 80% or higher means more than 80% of people liked the movie. The audience is the real critic.

[thajdikt]

 

1 hour ago, Favorite Fearless Legion said:

Yeah this was fine. Not as good as Eternals but nowhere near as bad as ds2 and L&T 

 

This saga is fucked longer term though imo, it’s just a difficult (nearly impossible, shouldn’t have been attempted) concept and the writers they’ve been hiring aren’t up to the task

To me they´re making to complicated than it has to be. NWH was easy and simple. They need to get around the need to make it so complicated. The average audience member won´t understand shit. 

[YM!]

2 minutes ago, thajdikt said:

 

To me they´re making to complicated than it has to be. NWH was easy and simple. They need to get around the need to make it so complicated. The average audience member won´t understand shit. 

It’s not so much the multiverse is difficult to understand but more so it’s not really being done interestingly enough except to bring back past characters. Into The Spider-Verse and Everything Everywhere All At Once had great WOM and legs but did inventive things with it.

[Cooper Legion]

6 minutes ago, Willowra said:

A B+ cinemascore and an 80%+ RT audience score are good scores, tbh.

You clearly don’t know what you’re talking about, tbh

[Cooper Legion]

The biggest problem with the multiverse/time travel stuff for me personally is that you tend to do stuff that doesn’t make any logical sense.  
 

But I think the bigger issue for the GA is it tends to sound like gobbledygook that they can’t even tell if it makes sense and destroy a real emotional connection to stakes

Edited February 17, 2023 by Favorite Fearless Legion

[GOGODanca]

10 minutes ago, Willowra said:

Honestly, people need to stop this "quality, quality" chant. A B+ cinemascore and an 80%+ RT audience score are good scores, tbh. A score of 80% or higher means more than 80% of people liked the movie. The audience is the real critic.

A pg 13 comic book movie should be getting no less than an A- cinemascore, B+ means people thought it was just OK and leads to average/mediocre legs.

[Psylocke]

If people in here love this movie, should the MCU keep making rotten movies then?

[Mickiland16]

11 minutes ago, GOGODanca said:

A pg 13 comic book movie should be getting no less than an A- cinemascore, B+ means people thought it was just OK and leads to average/mediocre legs.

Also because Cinemascore makes the poll on the opening day where the fans who are most likely to give a high rating show up. As an example, every Star Wars movie before Episode IX got at least A- besides people criticizing the prequels on the day as well as The Last Jedi (which got an A)

Edited February 17, 2023 by Mickiland16
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[marveldcfox]

Muktiverse thing is bullshit. I am not interested in a saga based on multiple earths with multiple spiderman, iron man, captain america, Thor, hulk, Dr stranger, etc. It is all too gimmicky and boring. 

[Cooper Legion]

5 minutes ago, Psylocke said:

If people in here love this movie, should the MCU keep making rotten movies then?

The average rotten movie in multiverse saga is probably better than the average fresh movie at this point. At least very close.