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The Marvels | November 10, 2023 | Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter

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Just now, Jonwo said:

No wonder WB is thinking about moving Dune.

I don't think WB is afraid of another tasteless marvel movie, Dune 2 is likely to be another multiple-Oscar nominated movie with a long run due to good WOM.

Disney throwing Ms Marvel for free in cable tv shows they are desperate to have some exposure.

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2 minutes ago, LegionWrex said:

I'm still skeptical about it hitting $1B but it will comfortably be a sizable hit. I can't see this doing badly.

I’m well aware that it’s hard. But if it wasn’t hard it wasn’t fun. I think it can actually pull it off.

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It’s not lost in me the irony that this trailer featured Intergalactic with "Don’t. Well, now, don't you tell me to smile" not once, but twice.
 

Stay awesome and bad ass, Carol. Never change.

 

Also, crazy cool remix, I kinda hear the Avengers theme somewhere at the beginning.

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most difficult MCU movie to sell. The movie looks good from the trailer but it will still flop because the first one wasn't great; some so-called Marvel fans are hating her; GA doesn't consider her a big character, as Marvel Studios can't even tell people that she is an important character as they don't want to lose her haters' money, who are interested in other Marvel movies, so they've been silent on who the leads are in Avengers for the past 4 years. Nothing is working for the movie. This might be the first MCU movie to flop after getting an "A" cinemascore.

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29 minutes ago, Willowra said:

most difficult MCU movie to sell. The movie looks good from the trailer but it will still flop because the first one wasn't great; some so-called Marvel fans are hating her; GA doesn't consider her a big character, as Marvel Studios can't even tell people that she is an important character as they don't want to lose her haters' money, who are interested in other Marvel movies, so they've been silent on who the leads are in Avengers for the past 4 years. Nothing is working for the movie. This might be the first MCU movie to flop after getting an "A" cinemascore.

 

Does anyone on this site even know the meaning of flop anymore

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2 minutes ago, ChipDerby said:

 

Does anyone on this site even know the meaning of flop anymore

I would consider it a flop if it does less than 500m with 200m budget or less than 625m with 250m budget 

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5 minutes ago, ChipDerby said:

 

Does anyone on this site even know the meaning of flop anymore

I truly don’t think so. I look at what Marvel Studios is doing at the box office while all the hyped BOT films bomb and I’m like, what the hell are you even talking about. MI7 isn’t even topping Ant-Man and Wasp: Quantumania, which is easily proven MCU’s smallest franchise, both literally and figuratively. Guardians of the Galaxy, Vol. 3 is critically and publicly acclaimed, one of the biggest blockbusters of the year at the box office. It’s like all the smarts of this message board is gone, alternative facts flying left and right. It’s either Avengers: Endgame or bomb, which is just crazy and clearly not how the MCU has ever operated at the box office before.

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8 minutes ago, Willowra said:

I would consider it a flop if it does less than 500m with 200m budget or less than 625m with 250m budget 

I can guarantee you that The Marvels will fairly exceed that. This metric that you made up in your head is just to call Quantumania a bomb. MI7 is likely not topping $600m with a $300m budget, not marketing included. Would anyone on their right minds call that a bomb, even if it might not even top Dial of Destiny domestic? No one would do that; and if they did they would be wrong. M:I7? Underperformed. Quantumania? Underperformed. Now people saying that a film like Guardians, Vol. 3 that has made $843m WW with $359m DOM has underperformed is absolute crazy talk.    
 

Why it’s so easy to see that the M:I franchise has a ceiling (something that lot of us have pointed out even before last weekend, myself included) and that fucking Ant-Man has also a ceiling? 

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