titanic2187 Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 3 hours ago, bruchav said: No, France and Spain are good for superhero movies, Germany, Italy and Japan not. No, they are just decent, france had avatar and titanic both above $140m, but it's almost unheard in france that a superhero movie to gross more than $40m, Cap 3 grossed $23m in france in 2016 and that was the highest grossing superhero movies of the year while moana and rogue one were both approching $40m, even the revenant and ice age 5 made more than cap 3 how can u conclude that as good? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndustriousAngel Posted June 18, 2017 Author Share Posted June 18, 2017 Final weekend trend - holdovers up, WW down to 235k 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ttr Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 Final weekend trend - holdovers up, WW down to 235k More detailed numbers? Bitte? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peludo Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 6 hours ago, bruchav said: No, France and Spain are good for superhero movies, Germany, Italy and Japan not. Not so good. Last year, all Deadpool, BvS, Civil War and Suicide Squad did about 10-12m euros in Spain. In terms of market size it equates to about $200m in USA. Decent numbers, but nothing spectacular. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristis Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 On 17.6.2017 at 1:55 PM, TigerPaw said: Wonder Woman is a movie about WW1... and some may say depicts Germany in Bad Light. WOM may be good.. but if everyone exits and tell their friends that their country is put in bad light.. there will be no positive WOM effect. 8 hours ago, bruchav said: But I really doubt that a movie that portrays Germany as the bad guys has no negative effect at the box office(in Germany). I don't know if you know how this issue is treatened in Germany. Movies about WW1 and WW2 can be popular here, Inglourious Basterds had 2,15M admissions in 2009. Jewish slaught Nazi's in that movie... And for me that movie tried not to blame Germans too much and it tried to show that not only Germans were guilty in the history (--> native american). 20 hours ago, George Parr said: Doesn't change the fact that using WW1 was n idiotic idea. I thought this would fit quite well as WW1 was a totally new sort of war, unseen until that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristis Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 2 hours ago, ttr said: More detailed numbers? Bitte? Wonder Woman (235k) Baywatch (210k) -12% Pirates of the Caribbean 5 (175k) -22% The Mummy (140k) -23% All Eyez on Me (90k) Mädelstrip (37,5k) Diary of a Wimpy Kid (27,5k) +10% GotG (25k) -29% 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndustriousAngel Posted June 19, 2017 Author Share Posted June 19, 2017 preliminary weekend numbers as follows: WW - 223k (Thu-Sun) Bay - 213k PotC5 - 175k Mummy - 140k Eyez - 95k 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PanaMovie Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 Any possibility that WW can hava good legs as other countries? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndustriousAngel Posted June 19, 2017 Author Share Posted June 19, 2017 5 hours ago, PanaMovie said: Any possibility that WW can hava good legs as other countries? with Transformers next week, no I don't think so btw, just saw the movie - I don't think the fact that Germans are the "bad guys" here makes much difference, it's probably just the combination of little known actors and little known heroine. The movie is actually ok, about on the level of the first Thor movie which faced the same difficulties with the myth/action clash. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndustriousAngel Posted June 20, 2017 Author Share Posted June 20, 2017 Germany's Top20 last weekend: title admissions th. PTA total adm. total € drop week 1 Wonder Woman 222.252 563 395 256.522 2.853.124 - 1 2 Baywatch 212.392 638 333 1.253.701 10.514.432 -11 3 3 Pirates of the Caribbean 5 174.726 525 333 2.030.174 21.594.619 -22 4 4 The Mummy 138.868 625 222 387.067 4.291.933 -23 2 5 All Eyez on Me 94.283 176 536 94.283 939.292 - 1 6 Snatched 31.379 342 92 35.764 304.947 - 1 7 Diary of a Wimpy Kid 4 29.432 470 63 159.619 1.034.519 +20 3 8 Guardians of the Galaxy 2 25.247 266 95 2.442.640 26.773.080 -28 8 9 Hanni & Nanni 25.238 660 38 222.301 1.413.071 +3 4 10 Bob the Builder 17.996 397 45 21.540 138.864 - 1 11 Alien - Covenant 16.034 278 58 572.271 5.273.161 -45 5 12 In Zeiten des abnehmenden Lichts 15.321 127 121 111.010 870.624 -17 3 13 This Beautiful Fantastic 15.295 93 164 21.075 153.673 - 1 14 The Boss Baby 14.675 344 43 1.874.431 13.926.569 +6 12 15 Maria Mafiosi - Jeder sehnt sich nach Familie 10.953 125 88 13.050 103.741 - 1 16 The Smurfs 3 8.706 306 28 1.231.084 8.796.135 +4 11 17 King Arthur 8.333 180 46 501.389 5.206.209 -48 6 18 Richard the Stork 7.174 323 22 148.171 944.115 -7 6 19 The Dinner 5.897 64 92 21.109 170.776 -16 2 20 The Belko Experiment 5.777 59 98 16.509 107.422 - 1 As the increases among family stuff and general good holds indicate, weather was ok for theaters this time, which makes the Wonder Woman number look not very good. All Eyez on Me had the highest PTA but was very frontloaded. Among holdovers, King Arthur managed to make it to 500k total - I don't know about those sequels, doesn't look promising. Pirates 5 crossed 2mil total, the franchise ist still alive even when it will probably miss the blockbuster mark. … GotG2 is now the top performer among MCU movies but will also miss those 3mil. And Baywatch surprised with a fine hold, seems to have some decent WOM! Next weekend: The fifth Transformers movie hits theaters … while the franchise showed a decline, it should still become #1 by a wide margin, an opening in the 500k range should be possible, maybe even more with Wonder Woman obviously not attractive to the action oriented crowd. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndustriousAngel Posted June 21, 2017 Author Share Posted June 21, 2017 Declining franchise, ok, but today's 8pm show for Transformers 5 is rather empty ... actually, shockingly so. 4 hours to go and only 1 (one) seat sold atm. For now, let's put a big question mark behind my 500k number: ? (WW is not selling too hot either but has as least more than 20 bookings for the same slot) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Rambo Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 1 hour ago, IndustriousAngel said: Declining franchise, ok, but today's 8pm show for Transformers 5 is rather empty ... actually, shockingly so. 4 hours to go and only 1 (one) seat sold atm. For now, let's put a big question mark behind my 500k number: ? (WW is not selling too hot either but has as least more than 20 bookings for the same slot) Maybe this ones more of Walk-ins type of movie ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndustriousAngel Posted June 21, 2017 Author Share Posted June 21, 2017 47 minutes ago, John Rambo said: Maybe this ones more of Walk-ins type of movie ??? One surely hopes so (though I myself have no plans to watch it, ever). It may also be that the Wednesday start got a little hushed up, our usual opening day is Thursday. Still a bad sign if not even the core fanbase turns up for OD. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Rambo Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 13 hours ago, IndustriousAngel said: One surely hopes so (though I myself have no plans to watch it, ever). It may also be that the Wednesday start got a little hushed up, our usual opening day is Thursday. Still a bad sign if not even the core fanbase turns up for OD. How has this franchisee performed in Germany/Austria? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndustriousAngel Posted June 22, 2017 Author Share Posted June 22, 2017 total admissions for the Transformer series in Germany - no blockbusters but solid performances: T1: 1.511.919 T2: 1.908.646 T3: 2.573.619 T4: 2.507.644 all of them were summer openings, so pretty comparable. All of them had shitty multipliers, so a 500k OW would probably make T5 the worst performer in the series. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndustriousAngel Posted June 23, 2017 Author Share Posted June 23, 2017 First weekend estimates for Germany from insidekino.de, and the motto is "When Giants Fall": #1: T5 - 375k (incl. Wed) #2: WW - 140k (-35%) #3: Bay - 120k (-45%) #4: PotC5 - 85k (-50%) #5: Mummy - 65k (-55%) Roughly, we're down to half the admissions of T3 and 4. And that's a generous estimate for T5 if I look at yesterday's numbers ... weather seems to become more theater-friendly over the weekend. A bit surprised about WW's hold, I thought it would get hit a lot harder by T5 - let's see if that number holds. And Baywatch might come in higher once more, seems to be a Sat or Sun kind of movie. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
titanic2187 Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 11 hours ago, IndustriousAngel said: First weekend estimates for Germany from insidekino.de, and the motto is "When Giants Fall": #1: T5 - 375k (incl. Wed) #2: WW - 140k (-35%) #3: Bay - 120k (-45%) #4: PotC5 - 85k (-50%) #5: Mummy - 65k (-55%) Roughly, we're down to half the admissions of T3 and 4. And that's a generous estimate for T5 if I look at yesterday's numbers ... weather seems to become more theater-friendly over the weekend. A bit surprised about WW's hold, I thought it would get hit a lot harder by T5 - let's see if that number holds. And Baywatch might come in higher once more, seems to be a Sat or Sun kind of movie. Love to see that the figure from all over the world are dropping hard from the last one, except china WW deserve that unexpected hold, it's really a good film 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndustriousAngel Posted June 24, 2017 Author Share Posted June 24, 2017 2nd estimate ... T5 still at 375k, but as expected WW is lower and Baywatch a bit higher now, by Sunday they'll probably have switched places. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristis Posted June 24, 2017 Share Posted June 24, 2017 Diary of a Wimpy Kid does extremely well here 2nd Trend has it at 25k, down only 14%!!! Can't understand that... WW drop is >40% now 125k... But that seems to be the average drop this weekend (beside the one above...) so still OK I think, as long as it doesn't drop further as the weekend goes... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeepItU25071906 Posted June 24, 2017 Share Posted June 24, 2017 7 minutes ago, Aristis said: WW drop is >40% now 125k... Germany + CBM doesn't equal "love"( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...