Aristis Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 (edited) Monday numbers: DM3 460/2590 (-32%) Valerian 227,5 Again a bit better for Valerian! Maybe I can dream of 1M+ again... SM:H 157,5/557,5 (-47%) Pubertier 85/355 (-13%) TF5 37,5/1115 (-46%) Baywatch 37,5/1840 (-26%) POTC5 35/2525 (-26%) Edited July 24, 2017 by Aristis 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndustriousAngel Posted July 24, 2017 Author Share Posted July 24, 2017 36 minutes ago, Aristis said: Valerian 227,5 Again a bit better for Valerian! Maybe I can dream of 1M+ again... Will be difficult, but going with how the weekend developed, I see some strong weekdays and less weather influence than for most summer releases. To get a margin where it might land, some original SciFi releases from the past years: Jupiter Ascending's 2,9 multiplier would mean about 680k total (worst case scenario) Guardians of the Galaxy's 3,9 multiplier would bring it to nearly 900k (most probable) And finally, Insterstellar's 4,5 multilplier would take it over the million - that's about the best scenario I can see. So, realistic? no, but possilble - yes 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MinaTakla Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 (edited) According to INSIDEKINO, DM3 scored the best second and third weekends of the year in Germany (highest second weekend of the year with 680K and highest third weekend of the year with 460K). http://insidekino.com/News.htm Edited July 24, 2017 by MinaTakla 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Parr Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 DM3 should definately take over as most successful movie of the year sometime in August. Right now Fifty Shades of Grey 2 is still on top with 3.43m admissions, after both Furios 8 (3.23m) and Beauty and the Beast (3.37m) failed to get past it. I'd think the only movies to get past DM3 after it takes the top spot should be Fack ju Göthe 3 in October and Star Wars in December, unless the Bullyparade movie really gains traction, which I don't think will happen. It should be somewhat successful, but the hype over Bully ended a long time ago. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marveldcfox Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 So how much has Valerian grossed in US$ so far? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Parr Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 4 hours ago, marveldcfox said: So how much has Valerian grossed in US$ so far? Per the international numbers at insidekino it should be around $2.9m. Weekend actuals aren't out yet though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndustriousAngel Posted July 25, 2017 Author Share Posted July 25, 2017 (edited) Germany's Top20 last weekend: title admissions th. PTA total adm. total € drop week 1 Despicable Me 3 462.009 763 606 2.592.248 22.157.623 -32 3 2 Valerian 228.011 576 396 228.011 2.659.352 - 1 3 Spider-Man Homecoming 156.221 622 251 555.857 5.805.995 -48 2 4 Das Pubertier 84.295 449 188 355.206 2.830.272 -14 3 5 Transformers 5 38.501 379 102 1.115.306 12.805.387 -45 5 6 Baywatch 37.671 360 105 1.846.521 15.349.421 -26 8 7 Pirates of the Caribbean 5 35.918 333 108 2.525.905 26.557.667 -24 9 8 Rough Night 23.997 376 64 355.943 2.939.753 -44 4 9 Paris can wait 15.490 90 172 44.458 387.263 -23 2 10 Wonder Woman 15.373 234 66 737.849 7.822.083 -39 6 11 Gifted 11.288 123 92 49.634 347.480 -26 2 12 The Mummy 10.538 173 61 657.838 7.101.961 -34 7 13 Hanni & Nanni 10.430 301 35 346.868 2.180.998 +6 9 14 Il a déjà tes yeux 8.828 185 48 49.185 341.173 -47 2 15 Miss Sloane 8.683 90 96 62.986 477.020 -25 3 16 Un Profil Pour Deux 8.367 162 52 184.978 1.369.405 -39 5 17 Diary of a Wimpy Kid 4 7.131 314 23 295.839 1.873.519 -6 8 18 Willkommen bei den Hartmanns 6.222 53 117 3.671.256 29.313.309 -11 38 19 The Beautiful Fantastic 5.685 99 57 85.118 633.719 -3 6 20 Weit - Die Geschichte … 5.580 77 72 97.220 755.039 -9 7 Overall a bad weekend with harder drops than expected, and Valerian's mediocre opening couldn't save it. Both Despicable Me 3 and Pirates of the Caribbean 5 have now sailed past 2,5mil admissions total. Spider-Man had the worst drop, not a good sign. Next weekend: A fight between three very different openers - the serious Dunkirk , the YA horse-girl adaption Ostwind 3, and Baby Driver - Edgar Wright has a bit of a cult status by now, but I guess Ostwind 3 will have the edge, Ostwind 2 had a near 300k OW, and I can't see Baby Driver nor Dunkirk do that much. Despicable Me 3 should see a 4th weekend on top! Edited July 25, 2017 by IndustriousAngel 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marveldcfox Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 1 hour ago, IndustriousAngel said: Germany's Top20 last weekend: title admissions th. PTA total adm. total € drop week 1 Despicable Me 3 462.009 763 606 2.592.248 22.157.623 -32 3 2 Valerian 228.011 576 396 228.011 2.659.352 - 1 3 Spider-Man Homecoming 156.221 622 251 555.857 5.805.995 -48 2 4 Das Pubertier 84.295 449 188 355.206 2.830.272 -14 3 5 Transformers 5 38.501 379 102 1.115.306 12.805.387 -45 5 6 Baywatch 37.671 360 105 1.846.521 15.349.421 -26 8 7 Pirates of the Caribbean 5 35.918 333 108 2.525.905 26.557.667 -24 9 8 Rough Night 23.997 376 64 355.943 2.939.753 -44 4 9 Paris can wait 15.490 90 172 44.458 387.263 -23 2 10 Wonder Woman 15.373 234 66 737.849 7.822.083 -39 6 11 Gifted 11.288 123 92 49.634 347.480 -26 2 12 The Mummy 10.538 173 61 657.838 7.101.961 -34 7 13 Hanni & Nanni 10.430 301 35 346.868 2.180.998 +6 9 14 Il a déjà tes yeux 8.828 185 48 49.185 341.173 -47 2 15 Miss Sloane 8.683 90 96 62.986 477.020 -25 3 16 Un Profil Pour Deux 8.367 162 52 184.978 1.369.405 -39 5 17 Diary of a Wimpy Kid 4 7.131 314 23 295.839 1.873.519 -6 8 18 Willkommen bei den Hartmanns 6.222 53 117 3.671.256 29.313.309 -11 38 19 The Beautiful Fantastic 5.685 99 57 85.118 633.719 -3 6 20 Weit - Die Geschichte … 5.580 77 72 97.220 755.039 -9 7 Overall a bad weekend with harder drops than expected, and Valerian's mediocre opening couldn't save it. Both Despicable Me 3 and Pirates of the Caribbean 5 have now sailed past 2,5mil admissions total. Spider-Man had the worst drop, not a good sign. Next weekend: A fight between three very different openers - the serious Dunkirk , the YA horse-girl adaption Ostwind 3, and Baby Driver - Edgar Wright has a bit of a cult status by now, but I guess Ostwind 3 will have the edge, Ostwind 2 had a near 300k OW, and I can't see Baby Driver nor Dunkirk do that much. Despicable Me 3 should see a 4th weekend on top! but but....you said Valerian has good wom and is expected to do 10+. I know it isn't enough but still better than Tarzan, Jupiter Ascending etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndustriousAngel Posted July 25, 2017 Author Share Posted July 25, 2017 24 minutes ago, marveldcfox said: but but....you said Valerian has good wom and is expected to do 10+. I know it isn't enough but still better than Tarzan, Jupiter Ascending etc. it should do more than 10mil, that's pretty sure. As mentioned, Germany tends to have good multipliers, and the OW was already a bit more than 3mil US$ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brainbug Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 Dunkirk is selling really well at my theater, Baby Driver...not so much. Ill see both this Thursday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndustriousAngel Posted July 25, 2017 Author Share Posted July 25, 2017 4 minutes ago, Brainbug said: Dunkirk is selling really well at my theater, Baby Driver...not so much. I must agree, Baby Driver's presales are nothing special, but it's been a bit under the radar - Dunkirk is the movie the press are talking about, and reviewing. But Baby Driver will get far more walk-in business I guess Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marveldcfox Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 I have a bad feeling that Dunkirk + BD combo will hurt Valerian a lot this weekend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brainbug Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 Just now, marveldcfox said: I have a bad feeling that Dunkirk + BD combo will hurt Valerian a lot this weekend. I think so. Valerian had the biggest screen (690 seats) at my theater last weekend and Dunkirk will occupie that. The smaller auditoriums for Valerian sold next to nothing, its a film that only works on a really big screen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el sid Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 Finally I'm able to post again. First it took me a day to notice that "Crank" is the name of the movie and not the hero . And then I couldn't write and still can't from my ordinary laptop. I think Valerian will be hurt by Dunkirk, but not that much. As mentioned here in the thread its WOM isn't bad at all. From what I heard, several moviegoers said it was a nice surprise to them. For example today the reservations for Valerian look really good in the Munich theaters, better than on its release day (ok, the constant rain helps too). Its weekdays numbers should be fine when added. As from tomorrow Valerian will keep the second biggest cinema halls in mathäser, Cinemaxx and partly Cineplex e.g., in smaller towns Dunkirk will hurt probably more screenwise. All of a sudden the bookings and reservations for Dunkirk look indeed promising. I have the feeling that happens more and more often, I mean that moviegoers seem not to care till a few days before the release. Or the WW success caused more interest. And the official reviews go from 7 to 10/10 which will also help a lot. Baby Driver is doing ok so far but not overwhelming. Reviews are also very good here. If the weather stays so terrible as it was/is yesterday and today - at least in the eastern parts of Germany - then the weekend will become pleasant anyway both for the new releases and the holdovers. So far it's predicted to stay mostly cold and cloudy till Saturday and maybe the bad weather last a bit longer. Fingers crossed. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndustriousAngel Posted July 26, 2017 Author Share Posted July 26, 2017 At my theater, the biggest screen tomorrow goes to Baby Driver and the 2nd biggest to Dunkirk, but presales-wise Dunkirk is leading by maybe 50% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el sid Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 Some Thursday estimates from insidekino.de/forum: New Releases (many films with glowing reviews and the admission numbers - if they hold - look also good, almost too good): Ostwind 3: 7.5k evening only (released in 580 theaters, good reviews) Dunkirk: 69k (465, very good reviews) - hopefully this is true Baby Driver: 22.5k (358, very good reviews) Wish Upon: 5.5k (175, very mixed reviews between 2 and 7/10) The Party: 4.5k (120, very good reviews) Sie nannten ihn Spencer: ?k (a documentary about Bud Spencer, the Bud Spencer and Terence Hill films are still pretty popular here, 200 theaters but not with constant showtimes, good review, very good WOM) Holdovers:DM3: 22.5k evening only (90k whole day last Thursday) Valerian: 42.5k (45k) Spider-Man: Homecoming: 17k (35k) Das Pubertier: 15.5 (17.5k) Transformers 5: 4.5k (7k) Baywatch: 4.5k (?) 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndustriousAngel Posted July 27, 2017 Author Share Posted July 27, 2017 well, going by Thursday numbers, Baby Driver is the loser of the weekend. It's difficlult to predict but I'd say Dunkirk and Ostwind 3 are about head-to-head but below 300k, Valerian and Pubertier have good holds - with DM3 on top, this means we have at least five strong releases and I hope Baby Driver will end up with >100k, too - overall, we can expect a very satisfying weekend! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brainbug Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 Dunkirk exploded at my theater. Baby Driver is doing so-so, at my showing were only 15 people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenedictL11 Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 1 hour ago, IndustriousAngel said: well, going by Thursday numbers, Baby Driver is the loser of the weekend. It's difficlult to predict but I'd say Dunkirk and Ostwind 3 are about head-to-head but below 300k, Valerian and Pubertier have good holds - with DM3 on top, this means we have at least five strong releases and I hope Baby Driver will end up with >100k, too - overall, we can expect a very satisfying weekend! Such a shame for BD. Worse than Rough Night. So disgusting that people would watch that crap over a classic movie. #ByeFelicia to those losers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Parr Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 First trend is up at insidekino: #1 DM3 350k #2 Ostwind 3 325k #3 Dunkirk 250k #4 Valerian 175k #5 Baby Driver 125k #6 Spiderman ~100k #7 Das Pupertier 80k (still above OW on the 4th weekend) 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...