el sid Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 And the Monday update confirms the third trend, mostly it`s even a little bit better: #1 BP 217.5k/1.095M #2 Red Sparrow 197.5/202.5k - only a very small proportion of the weekend result comes from previews, good #3 FSF 175k/2.660M #4 The Post 152.5k/400k #5 Game Night 102.5k/106k #6 Die kleine Hexe 97.5k/1.225M #7 Die Biene Maja 90k #8 Wendy 2 77.5k/225k #9 Wonder 52.5k/885k #10 Heilstätten 40k/110k #11 Das schweigende Klassenzimmer 37.5/42.5k #12 Hilfe, ich hab meine Eltern geschrumpft 37.5/770k #13 Shape of Water 37.5k/230k #14 Billboards 32.5k/550k #15 Call Me by Your Name 25k/35k #16 Maze Runner 3 20k/600k 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndustriousAngel Posted March 6, 2018 Author Share Posted March 6, 2018 Germany's Top20 last weekend: title admissions th. PTA total adm. total € drop week 1 Black Panther 218.429 588 371 1.104.416 12.152.086 -24 3 2 Red Sparrow 197.418 521 379 203.842 1.987.092 - 1 3 Fifty Shades of Grey 3 174.168 636 274 2.665.230 24.347.327 -43 4 4 The Post 154.560 361 428 403.332 3.492.255 -8 2 5 Game Night 102.996 455 226 108.085 931.333 - 1 6 Die kleine Hexe 97.520 795 123 1.224.775 8.052.544 -29 5 7 Die Biene Maja 2 89.947 462 195 89.947 629.243 - 1 8 Wendy 2 77.123 615 125 222.005 1.469.274 -27 2 9 Wonder 52.710 581 91 985.871 7.822.686 -27 6 10 Heilstätten 39.601 291 136 110.038 983.231 -31 2 11 Das schweigende Klassenzimmer 36.822 116 317 42.238 341.016 - 1 12 The Shape of Water 36.461 276 132 229.588 1.908.831 -22 3 13 Hilfe, ich hab meine Eltern geschrumpft 36.190 496 73 762.188 4.939.451 -24 7 14 Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri 32.164 408 79 545.892 4.370.982 -13 6 15 Call Me By Your Name 25.647 109 235 35.591 291.939 - 1 16 Maze Runner 3 19.772 219 90 591.948 6.210.233 -55 5 17 Le Sens de la fête 13.577 191 71 250.977 2.012.843 -31 5 18 Ferdinand 12.892 279 46 1.059.313 7.395.528 -39 12 19 The Darkest Hour 11.884 246 48 351.613 3.038.834 -17 7 20 Jumanji 11.815 213 55 1.969.477 18.853.289 -37 11 A satisfying weekend (yet once more lagging behind 2017) - good holds (The Post nearly flat) and the openers on the upper end of expectations (Red Sparrow with a nice development during the weekend which should mean better holds than Atomic Blonde). Next weekend: In the aftermath of the academy awards, expect good holds and expansions for the corresponding releases. No big new releases but at least two with the potential to hit 100k admissions for the weekend - Death Wish and domestic comedy Vielmachglas. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndustriousAngel Posted March 9, 2018 Author Share Posted March 9, 2018 First estimates from insidekino.de: #1 - Sparrow 160k (-19%) #2 - Panther 150k (-32%) #3 - Post 135k (-13%) 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el sid Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 (edited) Also a good first trend for Shape of Water (60k, +65%) and Three Billboards (40k, +24%). But the rest is sad. All newcomers stay below the expectations. The Thursday actuals from Blickpunkt:Film: The new releases (reservations looked terrible and I hoped for some walk-ups, but that did not happen obviously): Vielmachglas: 6.1k (a German drama-comedy, released in 360 theaters, mediocre reviews) → 70k OW predicted so far Death Wish: 6.1k (283, several modest and some ok reviews) – the not very good reviews helped to reduce the buzz but I also often have the feeling that German moviegoers monitor too much if a film is a hit in the USA/WW and if not, they also don`t want to see it. Or worded positively, if a film is reported to be a big hit it causes a lot of interest here → 45k OW Molly`s Game: 2k (224, good and very good reviews) → 35k OW 12 Strong: 1.8k (200, mixed reviews between 4 and 7/10) → 27.5k OW The holdovers: Red Sparrow: 18.4k (actuals last Thursday 22.6k) Black Panther: 15.8k (23k) The Post: 15.6k (17.5k) Fifty Shades Freed: 14.2k (23.5k) Shape of Water: 8k Wonder: ?k → 35k OW Edited March 9, 2018 by el sid 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndustriousAngel Posted March 9, 2018 Author Share Posted March 9, 2018 super holds, terrible openings ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Parr Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 I definately didn't expect to see Red Sparrow ahead of Black Panther (for now). Good to see that Wonder has topped the 1m mark. Jumanji might just miss out on reaching 2m though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndustriousAngel Posted March 9, 2018 Author Share Posted March 9, 2018 The way Sparrow was developing over the last weekend was already an indication of good legs. Still a surprising hold, especially with Death Wish catering to a similar demo. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el sid Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 Because we got no Thursday estimates and there`s an interesting gap between the new releases and the holdovers, these are the Friday estimates from insidekino.de/forum: The new releases - sigh: Vielmachglas: 14.5k Death Wish 12k Molly´s Game: 4k Operation: 12 Strong: 4k But all holdovers look more delightful: Red Sparrow: 62.5k (!) - could of course be overestimated but still, this number confirms the fine hold and that it should become the new #1 (estimated number from last Friday was 66.5k) The Post: 44.5k (46.5k) BP: 42k (60.5k) Fifty Shades Freed: 42k (61k) Game Night: 19.5k (30k) Shape of Water: 19k (12k) Three Billboards: 12.5k (9.5k) Das schweigende Klassenzimmer: 8k (9k) Call Me by Your Name: 5.5k (6k) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnack Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 3 minutes ago, el sid said: Shape of Water: 19k (12k) Three Billboards: 12.5k (9.5k) Look like there is an Oscar boost in Germany ? They did expend ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el sid Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 6 minutes ago, Barnack said: Look like there is an Oscar boost in Germany ? They did expend ? It`s hard to find an exact source because we have no theater count chart (or at least not me) but filmstarts.de reports for today that Shape is playing in 354 theaters (had 347 last weekend according to bom) and Billboards in 391 (had 482 last weekend). So no (strong) increase when it comes to theater counts (maybe on Saturday and Sunday?). But this isn`t saying something about how often the films are shown/day, maybe that increased. Either way, according to the first trend from insidekino.de both will increase this weekend with Shape of Water having 60k admissions (+65%) and Billboards 40k admissions (+24%). 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Parr Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 2nd trend is up, Red Sparrow is up a bit, everything else among the top movies pretty much stays the same as with the last trend: #1 Red Sparrow 170k #2 Black Panther 150k #3 The Post 135k #4 FSoG3 100k #5 Vielmachglas 72.5k #6 Game Night 70k #7 Biene Maja 2 70k #8 Die kleine Hexe 70k #9 Shape of Water 60k #10 Wendy 2 50k 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
titanic2187 Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 15 hours ago, Barnack said: Look like there is an Oscar boost in Germany ? They did expend ? European is a big market for Oscar movies, so no really a surprise, they would expand to accommodate the demand Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndustriousAngel Posted March 10, 2018 Author Share Posted March 10, 2018 Good numbers except the openers (ouchhh)! Austria's February numbers are online, at least it was a mediocre one - a relief after the worst January in history but still a rather hopeless outlook for 2018 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndustriousAngel Posted March 11, 2018 Author Share Posted March 11, 2018 final weekend estimates stay with Sat numbers ... ok weekend but not much more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el sid Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 The unexciting Monday update from insidekino: #1 Red Sparrow 165/425k #2 BP 150k/1.305M (#1 boxoffice-wise then?) #3 The Post 130k/595k #4 Fifty Shades Freed 102.5k/2.820M #5 Die kleine Hexe 67.5k/1.305M #6 Game Night 65k/195k #7 Vielmachglas 65k/77.5k #8 Die Biene Maja 62.5k/165k #9 Shape of Water 60k/320k #10 Wendy 2 50k/285k #11 Death Wish 47.5k #12 Billboards 37.5k/600k #13 Wonder 30k/1.030M #14 Hilfe, ich hab meine Eltern geschrumpft 27.5k/805k #15 Das schweigende Klassenzimmer 27.5k/80k #16 Heilstätten 22.5k/150k #17 Call Me by Your Name 20k/65k ... Molly`s Game 17.5k/40k 12 Strong 15k/27.5k 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndustriousAngel Posted March 12, 2018 Author Share Posted March 12, 2018 37 minutes ago, el sid said: The unexciting Monday update that's the fitting word ... just ok business but nothing standing out. Last year's corresponding weekend was much the same but with a big opener (Kong) ... so on more weekend where we're falling behind 2017. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndustriousAngel Posted March 13, 2018 Author Share Posted March 13, 2018 Germany's Top20 last weekend: title admissions th. PTA total adm. total € drop week 1 Red Sparrow 165.041 550 300 426.310 4.068.379 -16 2 2 Black Panther 149.703 588 255 1.309.377 14.288.263 -31 4 3 The Post 130.273 458 284 595.260 5.127.745 -16 3 4 Fifty Shades of Grey 3 102.651 552 186 2.812.470 25.667.063 -41 5 5 Die kleine Hexe 68.455 794 86 1.306.314 8.573.159 -30 6 6 Game Night 65.387 443 148 195.132 1.646.670 -37 2 7 Vielmachglas 64.446 360 179 78.522 657.189 - 1 8 Die Biene Maja 2 63.362 519 122 167.010 1.151.741 -30 2 9 The Shape of Water 59.640 380 157 318.468 2.667.684 +64 4 10 Wendy 2 49.672 610 81 281.883 1.857.600 -36 3 11 Death Wish 47.459 284 167 47.459 427.383 - 1 12 Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri 37.921 439 86 603.680 4.831.214 +18 7 13 Wonder 30.470 526 58 1.032.397 8.148.361 -42 7 14 Hilfe, ich hab meine Eltern geschrumpft 27.834 457 61 793.739 5.140.545 -23 8 15 Das schweigende Klassenzimmer 27.206 112 243 88.011 697.609 -26 2 16 Heilstätten 21.252 301 71 138.548 1.227.767 -46 3 17 Call Me By Your Name 20.202 111 182 69.519 580.254 -21 2 18 Arthur & Claire 19.175 90 213 31.738 237.079 - 1 19 Molly's Game 17.158 224 77 40.147 279.820 - 1 20 Aicecek Saskiniz 15.368 51 301 15.368 150.786 - 1 If it were not for the flopping openers, this might have been a very decent weekend - good holds all around and even increases for some award winners. But with those openers, it's still nearly 20% down from the corresponding 2017 numbers … Next weekend: Tomb Raider should take the lead and on the domestic side, the latest Fünf Freunde release is targeting the family market - let's see if it can live up to the series' very reliable standard of 1mil admissions total! With those rather soft openers, expect good holds once more but an overall boring weekend. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fastclock Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 Based on the average ticket price, Black Panther might lead the weekend in euro: around e1.63 million vs. e1.57 million. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristis Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 2 hours ago, fastclock said: Based on the average ticket price, Black Panther might lead the weekend in euro: around e1.63 million vs. e1.57 million. It did: €1.614.925 to €1.606.401 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el sid Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 (edited) The Thursday estimates from insidekino.de/forum: A bit of a Déjà-vu, struggling new, stronger older films: The new releases: Tomb Raider: 21.5k (released in 573 theaters, mixed reviews between 4 and 8/10, WOM from previews ist good) – could be better but not too bad and I hope for walk-ups Fünf Freunde und das Tal der Dinosaurier: ?k (560, ok reviews) Mary Magdalene: 2.5k (350, mixed reviews between 4 and 8/10 but mostly quite good) Earth: One Amazing Day: 3k (240, ok and good reviews) Der Hauptmann / The Captain: 2.5k (120, good reviews between 6 and 9/10) Winchester: 2.5k (109, mostly modest or mediocre reviews, also some good ones) The holdovers: Red Sparrow: 16.3k (actuals last Thursday 18.4k) – very good and if TR is too frontloaded, this movie could stay #1 The Post: 11k (15.6k) Black Panther: 9.5k (15.8k) Fifty Shades Freed: 8.5k (14.2k) Shape of Water: 6k (8k) Game Night: 4k (?) Vielmachglas: 2.5k (6.1k) Death Wish: 2k (6.1k) Edited March 15, 2018 by el sid 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...