Taruseth Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 Detective Pikachu: Saturday: 3D 17:00: 44 / 425 3D 20:30: 100 / 296 3D 22:30: 19 / 280 2D 14:20: 98 / 425 Total: 261 / 1426 -> 18.3% (+109) Sunday: OV 3D 20:15: 12 / 166 3D 17:00: 23 / 425 3D 20:30: 10 / 296 2D 11:20: 23 / 425 2D 14:20: 50 / 425 Total: 118 / 1737 -> 6.8% (+32) Presales for Saturday are 1.79 times as large as those for Friday (so it increased it’s lead by a lot). And Presales for Sunday are 0.78 times of those for Saturday 24h ago. So based on the Thursday number (40k): 40k 100k 180k 145k Would be 465k (and then something like 40k in previews) Think Sunday could perform stronger for something like 160k and a 480k Weekend. Also presales for Dark Phoenix preview started… So I will add that to the next preview update. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrestrial Posted May 11, 2019 Share Posted May 11, 2019 Quote 2. Trend:Pokémon (450k), Avengers - Endgame (400k), Glam Girls (175T), Der Fall Collini (75k), Monsieur Claude 2 (55k), Royal Corgi (40k), After (35k), Wonder Park (30k) 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taruseth Posted May 11, 2019 Share Posted May 11, 2019 23 hours ago, Taruseth said: Detective Pikachu: Saturday: 3D 17:00: 44 / 425 3D 20:30: 100 / 296 3D 22:30: 19 / 280 2D 14:20: 98 / 425 Total: 261 / 1426 -> 18.3% (+109) Sunday: OV 3D 20:15: 12 / 166 3D 17:00: 23 / 425 3D 20:30: 10 / 296 2D 11:20: 23 / 425 2D 14:20: 50 / 425 Total: 118 / 1737 -> 6.8% (+32) Presales for Saturday are 1.79 times as large as those for Friday (so it increased it’s lead by a lot). And Presales for Sunday are 0.78 times of those for Saturday 24h ago. So based on the Thursday number (40k): 40k 100k 180k 145k Would be 465k (and then something like 40k in previews) Think Sunday could perform stronger for something like 160k and a 480k Weekend. Also presales for Dark Phoenix preview started… So I will add that to the next preview update. Final one for DP: Saturday 11th May 2019 23:59 Sunday: OV 3D 20:15: 30 / 166 3D 17:00: 37 / 425 3D 20:30: 23 / 296 2D 11:20: 37 / 425 2D 14:20: 99 / 425 Total: 226 / 1737 -> 13% (+108) And Presales for Sunday are 0.87 times of those for Saturday (an increase from 0.78 times at what it was 24h ago). So based on the Thursday number (40k): 40k 100k 180k 155k For a 475k Weekend (don’t know yet how presales multi is over here, so it might be a bit screwed). Presales for Monday: 10 (don’t worry, they are always, always awful, presalemulti for OWend is always awful, and gets a lot better starting with Monday (unless it’s a holiday). Otherwise, it would be a 91.5% drop. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrestrial Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 Quote 3. Trend:Pokémon Pikachu (450k), Avengers - Endgame (425k), Glam Girls (190k), Der Fall Collini (72,5k), Monsieur Claude 2 (55k), Royal Corgi (42.5k), After Passion (32.5k), Wonder Park (30k). 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brainbug Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 Avengers stabilizes a bit, good. Also still ... solid for Pika, but a 500k+ start would have been better of course. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danhtruong5 Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Brainbug said: Avengers stabilizes a bit, good. Also still ... solid for Pika, but a 500k+ start would have been better of course. These number are euro or number of tickets sold? Edited May 12, 2019 by danhtruong5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brainbug Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, danhtruong5 said: These number are euro or number of tickets sold? Tickets sold. 450k Tickets are (very) roughly 5 - 6 Million US dollars. Edited May 12, 2019 by Brainbug Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danhtruong5 Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 1 minute ago, Brainbug said: Tickets sold. 450k Tickets are (very) roughly 5 - 6 Million US dollars. And the number of Endgame above (425k) is number of tickets sold until Saturday this weekend? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brainbug Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 4 minutes ago, danhtruong5 said: And the number of Endgame above (425k) is number of tickets sold until Saturday this weekend? No, thats with Sunday. These trends are projections for the whole weekend. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrestrial Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 Quote Den ersten Schätzungen nach verteidigt Avengers - Endgame mit etwa 420T Besuchern in einem knappen Rennen die Nr. 1-Position und steht nach 19 Tagen bei ca. 4,29 Mio. Besuchern. Damit ist das Fourquel der erste Film seit 2017, der die 4 Mio. Besucher-Marke knackt. Silber geht an Pokémon - Meisterdetektiv Pikachu, der bis Sonntag knapp 450T Besucher zählt und den viertbesten Start des Jahres schafft. Gut aus den Startlöchern kommt auch Glam Girls - Hinreißend verdorben, der nur knapp die 200T Besucher-Marke inklusive Previews verpasst. Die Top Five werden von Der Fall Collini (ca. 75T/530T gesamt) und Monsieur Claude 2 (ca. 65T/1,1 Mio.) ausgefüllt.Die Top Ten gaben gegenüber der Vorwoche um etwa 8 % nach, gegenüber dem gleichen Wochenende 19/2018, als Avengers - Infinity War mit 416.410 Besuchern am dritten Wochenende die Charts angeführt hat, ging es um ca. 20 % rauf. Quote According to first estimates, Avengers - Endgame defends the No. 1 position with about 420T visitors in a tight race and after 19 days stands at 4.29 million visitors. This makes the Fourquel the first film since 2017 that breaks the 4 million visitor mark.Silver goes to Pokémon - master detective Pikachu, who counts nearly 450T visitors until Sunday and achieves the fourth best start of the year.Well, Glam Girls also comes out of the starting blocks - ravishly spoiled, which barely missed the 200T visitor brand including previews.The Top Five are completed by The Fall Collini (approximately 75T / 530T total) and Monsieur Claude 2 (approximately 65T / 1.1 million).The top ten fell by about 8% compared to the previous week, compared to the same weekend 19/2018, when Avengers - Infinity War, with 416,410 visitors on the third weekend, topped the charts, it went up by about 20%. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taruseth Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 6 hours ago, terrestrial said: -51.8% for Endgame after dropping 48% from 1st to 2nd Weekend. Mmmhh, kinda hoped for a little better dropped, I think 5m is probably where it's heading, it won't get further. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrestrial Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 Quote Nr. adm we % Kinos av. adm till Sunday weeke Titel (distri) BO in € we BO in € till Sunday possible final adm (x1k) RT IMDB 1 419.002 -52 740 566 4.292.750 3 Avengers - Endgame (BV) 4.838.459 48.630.156 5.000 95 8,8 2 404.976 --- 595 681 448.409 1 Pokémon... Pikachu (WB) 3.606.762 4.025.077 1.500 64 7,1 3 158.603 --- 470 337 196.284 1 Glam Girls (U) 1.350.205 1.655.941 500 17 5,0 4 74.612 -29 591 126 530.869 4 Der Fall Collini (NCO) 676.658 4.660.079 700 - 7,2 5 65.426 -32 585 112 1.101.391 6 Monsieur Claude 2 (NV) 554.341 9.031.051 1.250 - 6,2 6 42.593 -33 449 95 131.824 2 Royal Corgi (WBU) 289.487 905.932 300 - 5,4 7 33.313 -55 460 72 952.799 5 After (NCO) 281.275 7.780.992 1.025 15 5,6 8 30.314 -46 561 54 435.944 5 Wonder Park (PAR) 202.758 3.068.563 500 33 5,7 9 22.096 -32 180 123 162.018 4 Van Gogh(DCM) 185.682 1.322.453 225 80 6,9 10 19.692 -45 434 45 676.737 7 Dumbo (BV) 142.189 5.191.977 725 46 6,6 11 15.184 -41 333 46 499.358 6 Sementry of the... (PAR) 136.919 4.320.770 525 58 6,1 12 14.194 --- 110 129 23.154 1 Stan & Ollie (SQ1) 118.427 167.837 60 92 7,3 13 12.161 --- 77 158 13.798 1 Nur eine Frau (NFP) 104.588 117.385 75 - 6,7 14 10.728 -46 132 81 39.973 2 Der Flohmarkt von Madame Claire (NV) 89.258 314.806 75 - 6,0 - 8.470 --- 210 40 8.470 1 MET: Dialogues des Carmélites (CON) 249.030 249.030 8 - - 15 8.420 -41 263 32 447.123 9 Asterix und das Geheimnis des Zaubertranks (UNI) 54.865 3.007.675 475 - 6,9 16 8.034 -50 220 37 588.032 8 Die Goldfische (COL) 65.538 4.737.496 625 - 6,9 17 7.986 -52 243 33 112.479 4 Lloronas Fluch (WB) 71.503 980.428 125 30 5,7 18 6.991 -55 174 40 39.876 2 The Hole in the Ground (WTK) 60.034 293.504 60 88 5,7 19 6.237 --- 40 156 17.316 1 Das Ende der Wahrheit (PRK) 52.584 112.060 40 - 6,3 20 5.805 -42 190 31 128.084 5 Alfons Zitterbacke - Das Chaos ist zurück (X) 36.815 832.394 150 - 6,2 10 20 1.270.627 1.366.367 -8 -10 5.065 6.847 251 200 19 Besucherzahlen ermittelt von +20 +15 % vs. Vorjahr http://www.insidekino.com/DTop10/19/DTop19MAI9.htm 5 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndustriousAngel Posted May 14, 2019 Author Share Posted May 14, 2019 Germany's Top20 last weekend: title admissions th. PTA total adm. total € drop week 1 Avengers - Endgame 419.002 740 566 4.292.750 48.630.156 -52 3 2 Pokémon Detective Pikachu 404.976 595 681 448.409 4.025.077 - 1 3 The Hustle 158.603 470 337 196.284 1.655.941 - 1 4 Der Fall Collini 74.612 591 126 530.869 4.660.079 -29 4 5 Qu'est-ce qu'on a encore fait au Bon Dieu ? 65.426 585 112 1.101.391 9.031.051 -32 6 6 The Queen's Corgi 42.593 449 95 131.824 905.932 -33 2 7 After 33.313 460 72 952.799 7.780.992 -55 5 8 Wonder Park 30.314 561 54 435.944 3.068.563 -46 5 9 At Eternity's Gate 22.096 180 123 162.018 1.322.453 -32 4 10 Dumbo 19.692 434 45 676.737 5.191.977 -45 7 11 Pet Sematary 15.184 333 46 499.358 4.320.770 -41 6 12 Stan & Ollie 14.194 110 129 23.154 167.837 - 1 13 Nur eine Frau 12.161 77 158 13.798 117.385 - 1 14 La Dernière Folie de Claire Darling 10.728 132 81 39.973 314.806 -46 2 - MET: Dialogues des Carmélites 8.470 210 40 8.470 249.030 - 1 15 Astérix - Le Secret de la Potion Magique 8.420 263 32 447.123 3.007.675 -41 9 16 Die Goldfische 8.034 220 37 588.032 4.737.496 -50 8 17 The Curse of La Llorona 7.986 243 33 112.479 980.428 -52 4 18 The Hole in the Ground 6.991 174 40 39.876 293.504 -55 2 19 Das Ende der Wahrheit 6.237 40 156 17.316 112.060 - 1 20 Alfons Zitterbacke - Das Chaos ist zurück 5.805 190 31 128.084 832.394 -42 5 While the Avengers dropped a bit harder than hoped for, both openers performed well and Der Fall Collini as well as the unspeakable French comedy continued with fine holds. Next weekend: Well, nothing really attractive this weekend, but thriller Greta might at least get a decent PTA thanks to the current thriller vacuum … also opening: some small family releases, none of them bestsellers but probably enough to drag family holdovers further down. 8 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrestrial Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 (edited) per insidekino.com Quote Trend: Der Trend steht mal wieder unter Wetter-Vorbehalt... Wie schön oder wie gewittrig wird das Wochenende tatsächlich werden? Der Kampf um die Nr. 1-Position wird auf jeden Fall wieder spannend - letztes Wochenende betrug der Unterschied zwischen Gold und Silber nur 14T Besucher und ähnlich eng könnte es dieses Wochenende wieder werden... Momentan sehe ich Pokémon - Meisterdetektiv Pikachu mit etwa 225T Besuchern knapp vor Avengers - Endgame mit etwa 215T Besuchern. Insgesamt würden die beiden Filme bei ca. 755T bzw. 4,6 Mio. Besuchern liegen.Glam Girls - Hinreißend verdorben dürfte mit etwa 140T Besuchern (380T gesamt) sechsstellig bleiben.Der Fall Collini (52,5T) und Monsieur Claude 2 (42,5T) schließen die Top Five ab. Die Neustarts spielen wie erwartet dieses Wochenende keine große Rolle... Quote Trend:The trend is again under weather provisio ... How nice or how stormy will the weekend actually be?The battle for the No. 1 position will definitely be exciting again - last weekend the difference between gold and silver was only 14k visitors and it could be similar this weekend again ...At the moment I see Pokémon - Pikachu with about 225k visitors just ahead of Avengers - Endgame with about 215k visitors. Overall, the two films would be at about 755k or 4.6 million visitors.Glam Girls should remain with six digits with about 140k visitors (380k total).The Collini case (52.5k) and Monsieur Claude 2 (42.5k) complete the top five.The new releases play, as expected this weekend, not a big role ... Edited May 17, 2019 by terrestrial 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndustriousAngel Posted May 17, 2019 Author Share Posted May 17, 2019 with weather returning to fine, harsh drops for most releases despite no big openers if those estimates come true: #1: Pikachu - 225k admissions (-44%) #2: Avengers - 215k (-49%) #3: Hustle - 140k (-11%) - super hold, seems to have fine WOM #4: Collini - 53k (-30%) #5: QecqoafeaBD? - 43k (-35%) 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el sid Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 (edited) And some Thursday actuals (source Blickpunkt:Film): The new releases: The Silence (released in 285 theaters): 2.8k → 20k admissions OW in the first trend of insidekino.de, far under the expectations Greta (175): 2.650k → 32.5k admissions OW Maquia (121): 1.8k Royal Opera House 2019 (99): 1.650 Das Familienphoto (86): 1.6k Urfin, der Zauberer von Oz/Urfin Dzhyus i ego derevyannye soldaty (123): ?k → 5k OW The Sun Is Also a Star (120): ?k → 5k OW The holdovers (mostly pretty good): Avengers: Endgame: 30k (actuals last Thursday 50k) - ok Pika: 30k (40k) - nice, probably Mark_G is already considering the sunshine today, on Saturday and Sunday, otherwise the hold would be much better The Hustle: 17k (15k) - it increased! Der Fall Collini: 6.5k (8k) Monsieur Claude 2: 5k (5.5k) Edited May 17, 2019 by el sid 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin4125 Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 3 hours ago, el sid said: And some Thursday actuals (source Blickpunkt:Film): The new releases: The Silence (released in 285 theaters): 2.8k → 20k admissions OW in the first trend of insidekino.de, far under the expectations Greta (175): 2.650k → 32.5k admissions OW Maquia (121): 1.8k Royal Opera House 2019 (99): 1.650 Das Familienphoto (86): 1.6k Urfin, der Zauberer von Oz/Urfin Dzhyus i ego derevyannye soldaty (123): ?k → 5k OW The Sun Is Also a Star (120): ?k → 5k OW The holdovers (mostly pretty good): Avengers: Endgame: 30k (actuals last Thursday 50k) - ok Pika: 30k (40k) - nice, probably Mark_G is already considering the sunshine today, on Saturday and Sunday, otherwise the hold would be much better The Hustle: 17k (15k) - it increased! Der Fall Collini: 6.5k (8k) Monsieur Claude 2: 5k (5.5k) So what I gather from this list; the worse the film, the better the hold. Good going Germany, I really hope the Hustle isn't holding like that in my native Switzerland! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrestrial Posted May 18, 2019 Share Posted May 18, 2019 (edited) 18 hours ago, Justin4125 said: So what I gather from this list; the worse the film, the better the hold. Good going Germany, I really hope the Hustle isn't holding like that in my native Switzerland! Its not my type of movie, but in my POV that is rather condescendingly sounding worded. Edited May 18, 2019 by terrestrial grammar.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin4125 Posted May 18, 2019 Share Posted May 18, 2019 3 hours ago, terrestrial said: Its not my type of movie, but in my POV that is rather condescendingly sounding worded. First of all, I am very sorry if I offended you or anyone else. I also very much apologize for insinuating anything about German filmgoing habits. Swiss-German tastes (at least as reflected in the box office) are very similar and I believe the success of some recent, shall we say not such high quality films (like After and The Hustle), has everything to do with a general lack of appealing films to German and Swiss moviegoers and definitely not that German/Swiss taste in film is better/worse than those of people from any other country (saying something to that effect would be truly condescending and hypocritical) About my comments regarding the quality of The Hustle, have you seen the film? How bad does a film need to be before calling its quality into question is not considered condescending? Sure, the fact that Dirty Rotten Scoundrels is one of my favorite movies is an additional source of bias, but come on. Aside from the actresses having natural screen presences, everything from the script to the technical aspects of the film are downright poor in quality. There is little creativity or ambition and few interesting directorial choices. It isn't a piece of art, its a studio film remake, and I think at a certain point we can draw comparisons about film quality without being condescending 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taruseth Posted May 18, 2019 Share Posted May 18, 2019 1 hour ago, Justin4125 said: First of all, I am very sorry if I offended you or anyone else. I also very much apologize for insinuating anything about German filmgoing habits. Swiss-German tastes (at least as reflected in the box office) are very similar and I believe the success of some recent, shall we say not such high quality films (like After and The Hustle), has everything to do with a general lack of appealing films to German and Swiss moviegoers and definitely not that German/Swiss taste in film is better/worse than those of people from any other country (saying something to that effect would be truly condescending and hypocritical) About my comments regarding the quality of The Hustle, have you seen the film? How bad does a film need to be before calling its quality into question is not considered condescending? Sure, the fact that Dirty Rotten Scoundrels is one of my favorite movies is an additional source of bias, but come on. Aside from the actresses having natural screen presences, everything from the script to the technical aspects of the film are downright poor in quality. There is little creativity or ambition and few interesting directorial choices. It isn't a piece of art, its a studio film remake, and I think at a certain point we can draw comparisons about film quality without being condescending Comedies tend to do somewhat good here and Endgame opened 60% above IW on the 4-day, the full OWend was double the IW ones and it almost opened on the 5-day with what Avengers made in total, so I guess legs always were meant to be somewhat bad. But to be honest, legs are rather underwhelming, it constantly drops 50%, that is meeh, it's definitely not bad but it should have had at least one better drop, like TLJ which opened rather similar (if using Endgames 4-day), that movie increased from 2nd to 3rd weekend (partly due to christmas being on the second, but none the less even the 2nd weekend drop wasn't much worse than Endgames with 55.6%. And Germany already loved Fifty Shades so... I guess it should be expected that After does well here too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...