BO Germany/Austria: Inside Out 2 #1 with best 2024 OW

[miketheavenger]

2nd trend:

Suicide Squad: 550k

Pets: 250k (-31%)

Jason Bourne: 150k (-47%)

Conni & Co: 100k

Schweinskopf: 65k

Ice Age 5: 45k

[IndustriousAngel]

seem like an overall depressed weekend, with the big drops all around ... in this context, good opening for SS even if everybody was hoping for higher numbers.

[Aristis]

FFA numbers are in! And they are depressing too...

 

57,5M admissions for the first half of the year is the 3rd lowest since 1992 (only 2014 (56,2M) and 1992 (49,2M) are worse. It's down 14% (9,3M admissions) from last year. In € it's down 11,4% to €482,7M (which is in fact the 3rd best since 1992)

 

The ticket price, again, rose and is now up to €8,40... (last year 8,16€) that's 9,51$ and so much lower than two years ago - XR is a shame but 1€ = 1,13$ is better than it was sometimes... 3D share was 22% (the second highest since 2010). That's up from 15,7% last year. And that helped ticket prices to rise that much.

 

German movies made about 15,5M admissions (26,6%, about the same as last year) which is a good result.

 

SW is with 3,4M admissions still the second most attended this year (after Zoo's 3,7M)

 

A good thing is the development of cinemas and screens. While there are two towns less that have a cinema, the total amount is up the 3rd time to 1.640 with 4.693 screens (the highest since 8 years).

 

We can only hope that business will pick up the second half - and there movies that have potential. So lets wait

 

All data from InsideKino and FFA.

Edited August 20, 2016 by Aristis

[miketheavenger]

The second half should be pretty strong though with Finding Dory, Fantastic Beats and Rogue One. If those titles meet expectations, this year should at least finish ahead of 2014.

[IndustriousAngel]

Final estimates lower for SS, a bit up for most other releases

[James]

@IndustriousAngel do you have admissions figures for OW/Total for the Harry Potter series? I am curious what FB will do since Germany was always in Top 3 OS markets for HP. 

[el sid]

The third trend – not very interesting but most of the films increased:

#1 SQ 525k
#2 Pets 275k
#3 Jason Bourne 160k
#4 Conni & Co 100k
#5 Schweinskopf 67.5k
#6 IA5 55k
#7 Lights Out 47.5k
#8 TMNT2 47.5k
#9 Captain Fantastic 47.5k
#10 Star Trek Beyond 42.5k
#11 Me Before You 35k
#12 GB 30k
 

So only the prediction for SQ decreased a little bit but maybe it will be better again tomorrow because at least here in Bavaria the weather is mixed at best and now it starts to rain too.

[IndustriousAngel]

3 hours ago, James said:

@IndustriousAngel do you have admissions figures for OW/Total for the Harry Potter series? I am curious what FB will do since Germany was always in Top 3 OS markets for HP. 

 

For admissions you have to use insidekino.de, here you'll find at least the data for six parts, for instance part 1: http://www.insidekino.de/J/JHarryPotter.htm (mind, admissions is counted per whole weeks, not weekend)

The German and Austrian numbers in US$ should be availyble on boxofficemojo, for instance part 1: http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?page=intl&country=DE&id=harrypotter.htm

 

Yes, I'm curious too, but I doubt that it'll come anywhere near HP numbers

[James]

14 minutes ago, IndustriousAngel said:

 

For admissions you have to use insidekino.de, here you'll find at least the data for six parts, for instance part 1: http://www.insidekino.de/J/JHarryPotter.htm (mind, admissions is counted per whole weeks, not weekend)

The German and Austrian numbers in US$ should be availyble on boxofficemojo, for instance part 1: http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?page=intl&country=DE&id=harrypotter.htm

 

Yes, I'm curious too, but I doubt that it'll come anywhere near HP numbers

Thank you!  So I guess 2m admissions for the first week is too much to hope for.

[IndustriousAngel]

1 hour ago, James said:

Thank you!  So I guess 2m admissions for the first week is too much to hope for.

 

Wow, 2mil would be absolutely mindboggling. I can't even see 1mil.

[James]

18 minutes ago, IndustriousAngel said:

 

Wow, 2mil would be absolutely mindboggling. I can't even see 1mil.

From what I see from the chart the lowest Potter opening week from the first 5 movies (that have figures) is HP5 with 2.4m, without previews. 1m first week would be a 40% retention rate, which is pretty dismal no? With such an opening is it even possible to make 30m in Germany? 

[IndustriousAngel]

Well, maybe I'm wrong and frankly I don't know the books, but this is not Harry Potter but a spinoff and marketing doesn't seem strong atm AND the last entry is a few years back, fads change quickly with them young ones. I can readily see a nice total (even 5-6mil admissions if the movie is really good; with super legs it might carry over into christmas business) but not a giant opening weekend because of the missing rush factor. (just my opinion of course. Seeing most things from the theater's perspective, I'd find a >1mil opening weekend extremely nice, but I don't believe in it)

[HH84]

2 hours ago, IndustriousAngel said:

Well, maybe I'm wrong and frankly I don't know the books, but this is not Harry Potter but a spinoff and marketing doesn't seem strong atm AND the last entry is a few years back, fads change quickly with them young ones. I can readily see a nice total (even 5-6mil admissions if the movie is really good; with super legs it might carry over into christmas business) but not a giant opening weekend because of the missing rush factor. (just my opinion of course. Seeing most things from the theater's perspective, I'd find a >1mil opening weekend extremely nice, but I don't believe in it)

I think FB will behave similar to the last Panem movies. A bit over 1M on opening weeknd and final admission at around 4M.

[Giesi]

8 hours ago, James said:

@IndustriousAngel do you have admissions figures for OW/Total for the Harry Potter series? I am curious what FB will do since Germany was always in Top 3 OS markets for HP. 

http://www.insidekino.de/Y/YDuellHarryVsHarry.htm#DUELL_DEUTSCHLAND_

That's the best chart you can find, I guess. HP was really a fucking beast in my country!

[MinaTakla]

Final trend for the week:

 

The first estimates show Suicide Squad with about 570K visitors to Sunday, the no. 1 position and thus starts 10% below BvS (630,432 visitors iP) five months ago. The pure weekend means the sixth best start of the year. 

Silver medal went to Pets , which numbered about 305K visitors on the fourth weekend. With a total of about 2.67 million visitors in 25 days moved the animated movie Ice Age - collision ahead! (About 70K and 2.66 million total) over. 

The top five are filled by Jason Bourne (about 175K) Connie & Co (about 115K to Sunday) and pig's head al Dente(about 85K). 

Very good off the mark is still Captain Fantastic - Once wilderness and back ., who until Sunday had over 50T visitors in less than 100 theaters 

, the Top Ten escalated over the previous week to about 12%, over the same weekend 34 last year , when mission: Impossible V with 139,958 visitors on the third weekend has led the charts, it went up by about 124%.

 

INSIDE KINO

[Aristis]

Well, the rainy weather showed what it can do in Germany All movies are up from yesterdays estimates and some had really good holds!

 

Suicide Suads 570k (the best estimate it had yet) is down 60k from BvS (with previews) which is a good result. 500k for the weekend are the sixth best start of the year.

Pets -16% With 2,67M admissions it's 4th on the yearly chart now and only has Deadpool (30k admissions more) and The Revenant (130k admissions) to chart second after Zoo (with 3,77M)

Jason Bourne is down 39%, Schweinskopf al Dente is down 11%

IA5, with 70k (yesterdays trend saw it at only 55k!) is down 20%. That one has such a good multipler! Still, not a good result but a multipler of 6 now.

 

And the weekend as a whole is again up versus last year and that by a healthy 124%! That is great But hot weather in the next week will hurt BO for sure...

Edited August 22, 2016 by Aristis

[IndustriousAngel]

Germany's Top20 last weekend:

	title	admissions	th.	PTA	total adm.	total €	drop	week
1	Suicide Squad	500.016	618	809	576.247	6.187.367	-	1
2	The Secret Life of Pets	305.719	752	407	2.681.838	22.822.507	-16	4
3	Jason Bourne	174.527	561	311	569.910	5.080.568	-39	2
4	Conni & Co	102.767	573	179	115.452	754.745	-	1
5	Schweinskopf al dente	84.487	169	500	240.697	1.884.768	-12	2
6	Ice Age 5	68.114	604	113	2.666.196	21.087.032	-22	8
7	Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 2	52.977	429	123	208.176	2.008.257	-51	2
8	Lights Out	49.534	311	159	296.728	2.515.174	-31	3
9	Star Trek 3	48.656	387	126	1.215.040	13.141.385	-36	5
10	Me Before You	45.042	526	86	2.229.603	17.489.397	-28	9
11	Ghostbusters	37.134	597	62	314.760	2.944.439	-41	3
12	L'Etudiante et Monsieur Henri	32.836	289	114	400.256	3.012.679	-14	5
13	Toni Erdmann	31.294	191	164	436.350	3.970.744	-16	6
14	Captain Fantastic	30.978	87	356	57.170	398.641	-	1
15	Antonio, ihm schmeckt's nicht	28.331	313	91	30.548	251.489	-	1
16	Legend of Tarzan	22.096	286	77	520.254	5.043.038	-61	4
17	Independence Day 2	21.013	288	73	1.436.010	15.224.253	-51	6
18	L'avenir	17.734	88	202	17.734	138.017	-	1
19	The BFG	9.917	305	33	285.614	2.293.897	-30	5
20	Retour chez ma mère	9.184	118	78	49.987	350.200	-45	2

 

Suicide Squad opened on the lower end of expectations while many releases had very nice holds. Pets have overtaken IA5 (both with good holds). Best hold for "Schweinskopf al dente"; very good PTA which should translate to more good holds in the future.

 

Next weekend: Pete's Dragon is opening with little noise, against two strong family releases already in theaters it will be difficult but at least it should beat Pets' 5th weekend. Now You See Me 2 seems like a sequel nobody has been asking for, much like Ted 2 - won't reach the Top3 in my opinion.

[el sid]

The whole day was sunny and the weekend should be the same - everywhere in Germany. So to prepare you for the worst tomorrow these are the Thursday estimates via insidekino.de (forum):

New releases:

Pete's Dragon (good reviews, starts in 540 theaters): 2.5k (evening only)
Now You See Me 2: (very mediocre reviews, 410 theaters): 15k
The Shallows (pretty good reviews, 283 theaters): 10k
The Mechanic: Resurrection (very few reviews and and very mediocre but anyway not so important in this case, 267 theaters): 10k - we will see
Mother's Day (bad reviews, 250 theaters): 2.5k – I don't know how many mostly women I guess plan to see this movie over the weekend, but this Thursday number doesn't look good at all

Holdovers:

SS: 32k (last Thursday = Opening day so of course it has a bigger drop today 115k)
Pets: 6k (don't worry that's only the evening, 50k)
Jason Bourne: 15k (31k)
Schweinskopf: 6k (13k)

Given the sunshine and temperatures some of these numbers are not even so bad (for Schweinskopf, The Shallows, Jason Bourne e.g.).

[IndustriousAngel]

That's pretty horrible for NYSM2, I thought it would at least have as many admissions as Shallows+Mechanic together

[IndustriousAngel]

omg the first trend from insidekino is so horrible it's near unbelievable ... espacially daytime fare is suffering but evening shows are not that much better.

 

#1: SS - 160k admissions (-70% )

#2: NYSM2 - 85k (ouchhh)

#3: Pets - 65k (-80% )

#4: Shallows - 65k (pretty good actually)

#5: Bourne - 50k (-70% )

 

Pete's Dragon estimated at below 30k - I knew the marketing was lacking but for a Disney releases that's just - words fail me ... Mechanic and Mother's Day 40k each ... what a weekend. Gruesome.