Issac Newton Posted June 11, 2023 Share Posted June 11, 2023 Japan should end up #1 OS Market. But, depends on UK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Issac Newton Posted June 11, 2023 Share Posted June 11, 2023 1 hour ago, Godzilla said: So around $500M? Overseas / global Mermaid has earned $185.4M overseas and $414.2M globally. It’s looking likely to only finish with around half of, or less than half of, the global earnings of: 2017’s Beauty and the Beast ($1.26B) 2019’s Aladdin ($1.05B) 2010’s Alice in Wonderland ($1.02B) 2016’s The Jungle Book ($967.7M) 2019’s The Lion King ($968.5M) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KP1025 Posted June 11, 2023 Share Posted June 11, 2023 4 minutes ago, Issac Newton said: Overseas / global Mermaid has earned $185.4M overseas and $414.2M globally. It’s looking likely to only finish with around half of, or less than half of, the global earnings of: 2017’s Beauty and the Beast ($1.26B) 2019’s Aladdin ($1.05B) 2010’s Alice in Wonderland ($1.02B) 2016’s The Jungle Book ($967.7M) 2019’s The Lion King ($968.5M) Lion King (2019) grossed $1.657 billion WW. https://www.boxofficemojo.com/release/rl3321923073/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Issac Newton Posted June 11, 2023 Share Posted June 11, 2023 (edited) 9 minutes ago, KP1025 said: Lion King (2019) grossed $1.657 billion WW. https://www.boxofficemojo.com/release/rl3321923073/ It's from BOP. Not my handwritten blog. So, can't do anything if any info is wrong. Apologies for any inconveniences caused. https://www.boxofficepro.com/weekend-box-office-transformers-rise-of-the-beasts-spider-man-across-the-spider-verse/ Edited June 11, 2023 by Issac Newton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MG10 Posted June 11, 2023 Share Posted June 11, 2023 3 hours ago, Issac Newton said: Remember my prediction of Italy ending in the top 5 overseas markets? We can forget it now 😅 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spidey Freak Posted June 11, 2023 Share Posted June 11, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, Issac Newton said: Overseas / global Mermaid has earned $185.4M overseas and $414.2M globally. It’s looking likely to only finish with around half of, or less than half of, the global earnings of: 2017’s Beauty and the Beast ($1.26B) 2019’s Aladdin ($1.05B) 2010’s Alice in Wonderland ($1.02B) 2016’s The Jungle Book ($967.7M) 2019’s The Lion King ($968.5M) As I was saying in the weekend BO thread: BatB - Feat. Emma Watson Aladdin - Feat. Will Smith Alice - Feat. Johnny Depp + first 3D blockbuster to release after Avatar TJB - Broke out in India in a historic manner and shattered records TLK - Based on the most iconic animated film of all time TLM has no pre-established OS star and is not based in a real-life country like India to unlock a sleeping market. Unlike TLK, it's one of the smaller Renaissance films in terms of original BO runs and while domestically Ariel is a big deal among Millennial women, her impact and popularity OS was always a question mark. And it's in the most crowded marketplace out of ALL of these films. TL;DR This comparison is apples to oranges without taking several important factors into consideration. Edited June 11, 2023 by Spidey Freak 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TEE Posted June 11, 2023 Share Posted June 11, 2023 6 hours ago, ogkalu said: Even if we assume no special legs from japan, this won't go below 550 M or so So, was I truly spectacularly wrong with my prediction between 500-550 million? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Train Posted June 12, 2023 Share Posted June 12, 2023 On 6/11/2023 at 2:34 PM, Spidey Freak said: As I was saying in the weekend BO thread: BatB - Feat. Emma Watson Aladdin - Feat. Will Smith Alice - Feat. Johnny Depp + first 3D blockbuster to release after Avatar TJB - Broke out in India in a historic manner and shattered records TLK - Based on the most iconic animated film of all time TLM has no pre-established OS star and is not based in a real-life country like India to unlock a sleeping market. Unlike TLK, it's one of the smaller Renaissance films in terms of original BO runs and while domestically Ariel is a big deal among Millennial women, her impact and popularity OS was always a question mark. And it's in the most crowded marketplace out of ALL of these films. TL;DR This comparison is apples to oranges without taking several important factors into consideration. Even without India, The Jungle Book still was a huge overseas hit. Would have still grossed 560+ OS without anything from India. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fabiopazzo2 Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 Pathetic but expected. This is Disney now 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valonqar Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 I'm looking at OS response to remakes and audience really showed up for: Maleficent (241M dom/518M OS) Alice in Wonderland (334M/691M) The Jungle Book (364M/603M) TLK (543M/1.1B) Aladdin (355M/698m) I think that BatB simply overperformed dom so ratio isn't that big although OS alone is (504M/761M) Even movies that flopped or didn't hit these heights did better OS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kayumanggi Posted June 16, 2023 Author Share Posted June 16, 2023 On 6/9/2023 at 12:25 PM, kayumanggi said: 141.1M overseas | 343.1M worldwide 185.7M overseas | 425.1M worldwide Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joel M Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 (edited) On 6/12/2023 at 11:41 PM, Bob Train said: Even without India, The Jungle Book still was a huge overseas hit. Would have still grossed 560+ OS without anything from India. Jungle Book is a big outlier as far as initial reception though. It's the only one of those remakes that got geniune raves by critics and huge "gotta see it on a big screen" positive buzz. It's boxoffice was more driven by overwhelming reception than nostalgia for the IP or big movie stars. And on the other end on the spectrum is Alice that also had very little to do with nostalgia for the animated Alice movie. It was all Burton-Depp at the peak of their popularity plus 3D mania. Edited June 16, 2023 by Joel M 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kon Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 (edited) On 6/11/2023 at 2:34 PM, Spidey Freak said: As I was saying in the weekend BO thread: BatB - Feat. Emma Watson Aladdin - Feat. Will Smith Alice - Feat. Johnny Depp + first 3D blockbuster to release after Avatar TJB - Broke out in India in a historic manner and shattered records TLK - Based on the most iconic animated film of all time TLM has no pre-established OS star and is not based in a real-life country like India to unlock a sleeping market. Unlike TLK, it's one of the smaller Renaissance films in terms of original BO runs and while domestically Ariel is a big deal among Millennial women, her impact and popularity OS was always a question mark. And it's in the most crowded marketplace out of ALL of these films. TL;DR This comparison is apples to oranges without taking several important factors into consideration. Honestly, I still don't know why people think Will Smith was a big draw for Aladdin. The first domestic week of Aladdin was smaller than The Little Mermaid. Aladdin was a big success due to the legs, which Will Smith star power wouldn't help. The start of Aladdin's box office in Overseas Markets aren't so different to The Little Mermaid (except particular cases like China or South Korea). So, I don't think Will Smith star power help there either. Edited June 16, 2023 by Kon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MG10 Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 13 hours ago, Kon said: Honestly, I still don't know why people think Will Smith was a big draw for Aladdin. The first domestic week of Aladdin was smaller than The Little Mermaid. Aladdin was a big success due to the legs, which Will Smith star power wouldn't help. The start of Aladdin's box office in Overseas Markets aren't so different to The Little Mermaid (except particular cases like China or South Korea). So, I don't think Will Smith star power help there either. What? Will Smith is one of the most popular actors in the world, and in 2019 he was also among the most appreciated one. How was he not a draw? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kon Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, MG10 said: What? Will Smith is one of the most popular actors in the world, and in 2019 he was also among the most appreciated one. How was he not a draw? I've never denied Will Smith's popularity. Remember I was answering someone who is implying Will Smith's star power is one of the main reasons why Aladdin has a much better box office than The Little Mermaid. I dissagree because Will Smith's star power would benefit mainly the first weekend. However, Aladdin just have a really big box office due to its legs. PS: At domestic level, The Little Mermaid (who has no star power) has bigger OW than Aladdin. Edited June 17, 2023 by Kon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royce Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 1 hour ago, Kon said: I've never denied Will Smith's popularity. Remember I was answering someone who is implying Will Smith's star power is one of the main reasons why Aladdin has a much better box office than The Little Mermaid. I dissagree because Will Smith's star power would benefit mainly the first weekend. However, Aladdin just have a really big box office due to its legs. PS: At domestic level, The Little Mermaid (who has no star power) has bigger OW than Aladdin. I definitely see your point but I'd argue that Aladdin's modest opening was mainly due to the bad marketing. The Genie's "first reveal" teaser with the unfinished CGI was heavily mocked and ridiculed by the internet when it came out. The only good trailer was probably the last one and by then it was already too late and people needed to be convinced to change their minds (which the good WOM did). I'd say Will Smith's star power still helped even with the legs because the people whose minds were changed by the WOM would be even more convinced cause hey, at least Will Smith is in it too. Will Smith is also a 90s icon like Robin Williams and therefore easier to accept as the new Genie and that connection makes the remake more nostalgic. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MG10 Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 4 hours ago, Kon said: I've never denied Will Smith's popularity. Remember I was answering someone who is implying Will Smith's star power is one of the main reasons why Aladdin has a much better box office than The Little Mermaid. I dissagree because Will Smith's star power would benefit mainly the first weekend. However, Aladdin just have a really big box office due to its legs. PS: At domestic level, The Little Mermaid (who has no star power) has bigger OW than Aladdin. Yeah obviusly he isn't the only reason for a 500M difference but he certainly helped (can you imagine having instead, I don't know, Paul Rudd in his role?), and I don't understand why people who went especially thanks to him aren't "allowed" to go in the second or third weekend... 😅 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Purple Minion Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 (edited) So 500M will happen. Edited June 18, 2023 by Purple Minion 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valonqar Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 13 minutes ago, Purple Minion said: So 500M will happen. That wasn't in question. 625M (break even point) was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
