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3 hours ago, misterpepp said:


EA goes on sale a week earlier

 

I was on the fence on whether to track this and EA pushes it to the no column.

 

Also, this does not seem like a film that benefits from people seeing it early.

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How badly is Joker 2 doing this weekend? As of Friday night the correct adjective seems to be "miserable." We peeked at Wicked pre-sales starting with New York City (a superstar location for open captions) and already, it has a ticket to screentime ratio of over 5 percent. When we see this many tickets sold in advance for open caption screenings with this high a t to s ratio, we know the movie is going to be successful at the box office. Joker 2 gave us a break from eyestrain from counting sold open caption seats, but the eyestrain is likely to return with Wicked.

 

Joker 2 Nationwide OC    
#of tickets/#of screen times 490   281 1.74
# of Zero solds/# of screen times 150   281 53.38%
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On 10/11/2024 at 8:02 AM, vafrow said:

 

Smile 2, T-7, Western GTA (southern Ontario), Thursday Previews

 

Total Sales: 29

New Sales since T-12: 5

Growth: 21%

Theatres: 5

Showtimes: 10

Tickets per Showtime: 2.9

Chains tracked: MTC4

Ticket Premium in effect: N

 

Sales by Showtime

Early Evening: 25/5

Late Evening: 4/5

 

Preview Sales by Format

Regular: 29/10

 

Comps 

0.674x AQP:D1 for $4.6M

0.180x Alien Romulus for $1.2M

0.293x Furiosa for $1.0M

 

Average: $2.3M

 

This has not trended well this week. Dropping against comps and just not moving the needle on sales. My impression is that Terrifier has probably stole its thunder. If you're a high schooler and people are talking about Terrifier, taking about Smile feels the equivalent of talking about Kung Fu Panda. 

 

Smile 2, T-7, Western GTA (southern Ontario), Thursday Previews

 

Total Sales: 31

New Sales: 2

Growth: 7%

Theatres: 5

Showtimes: 10

Tickets per Showtime: 3.1

Chains tracked: MTC4

Ticket Premium in effect: N

 

Sales by Showtime

Early Evening: 25/5

Late Evening: 6/5

 

Preview Sales by Format

Regular: 31/10

 

Comps 

0.646x AQP:D1 for $4.4M

0.188x Alien Romulus for $1.2M

0.295x Furiosa for $1.0M

 

Average: $2.2M

 

Still just crawling along very slowly. 

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On 10/11/2024 at 8:09 AM, vafrow said:

 

Venom: The Last Dance , T-14, Western GTA (southern Ontario), Thursday Previews

 

Total Sales: 86

New Sales since T-19: 37

Growth: 76%

Theatres: 5

Showtimes: 19

Tickets per Showtime: 4.5

Chains tracked: MTC4

Ticket Premium in effect: Y

 

Sales by Showtime

Late Afternoon: 5/4

Early Evening: 61/8

Late Evening: 20/7

 

Preview Sales by Format

Regular: 0/0

Dolby: 3/1

Dolby 3D: 21/6

IMAX: 26/4

IMAX 3D: 2/2

4DX 3D: 3/3

VIP: 31/3

 

Comps 

0.851x Joker 2 for $5.4M

2.263x GB:FE for $10.6M

1.162x Beetlejuice² for $11.4M

 

Average: $9.1M

 

This has done well all week. Really, no signs of a bottom of the U. Has stayed steady and now in the final two weeks.

 

Venom: The Last Dance , T-13, Western GTA (southern Ontario), Thursday Previews

 

Total Sales: 94

New Sales: 8

Growth: 9%

Theatres: 5

Showtimes: 19

Tickets per Showtime: 4.9

Chains tracked: MTC4

Ticket Premium in effect: Y

 

Sales by Showtime

Late Afternoon: 9/4

Early Evening: 62/8

Late Evening: 23/7

 

Preview Sales by Format

Regular: 0/0

Dolby: 5/1

Dolby 3D: 26/6

IMAX: 28/4

IMAX 3D: 4/2

4DX 3D: 3/3

VIP: 28/3

 

Comps 

0.870x Joker 2 for $5.5M

2.089x GB:FE for $9.8M

1.133x Beetlejuice² for $11.1M

 

Average: $8.8M

 

It fell a bit against comps, but 9% growth at this stage still feels pretty good.

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On 10/11/2024 at 6:41 AM, vafrow said:

 

Wicked, D2, T-42, western GTA (Southern Ontario), Thursday previews and Wednesday EA

 

Total Sales: 29

New Sales: 10

Growth: 34%

Theatres: 5

Showtimes: 11

Tickets per Showtime: 3.5

Chains tracked: MTC4

Ticket Premium in effect: N

 

Sales by Showtime

Late Afternoon: 8/3

Early Evening: 23/5

Late Evening: 8/3

 

Preview Sales by Format

Regular: 0/1

Regular 3D: 0/2

Dolby: 8/2

Dolby 3D: 31/6

 

Comps

3.000x Beetlejuice 2 for $29.4M

0.780x Joker 2 for $4.9M

0.328x Dune 2 for $3.3M

 

Average: $12.5M 

 

EA sales

Total sales: 107

New sales : 30

Growth: 39%

Theatres: 3

Showtimes: 3

Formats: Dolby 3D

 

2.326x Joker 2 for $1.6M

7.643x Beetlejuice 2 for $23.7M

0.360x Dune 2 for $0.7M

 

Average: $8.7M

 

I've taken out the big outlier comps like Twisters and IO2. They may become relevant later, but not much help now.

 

For Day 20, this is pretty good. Good growth for EA and previews. With not many comps, the overindex from Dune is probably pullig it down.

 

This is a big holiday weekend in Canada with a lot of people travelling, so it might slow any ticket buying momentum for the next few days, so we'll need to see if maintains its pace.

 

Wicked, D3, T-41, western GTA (Southern Ontario), Thursday previews and Wednesday EA

 

Total Sales: 44

New Sales: 5

Growth: 13%

Theatres: 5

Showtimes: 11

Tickets per Showtime: 4.0

Chains tracked: MTC4

Ticket Premium in effect: N

 

Sales by Showtime

Late Afternoon: 8/3

Early Evening: 28/5

Late Evening: 8/3

 

Preview Sales by Format

Regular: 0/1

Regular 3D: 0/2

Dolby: 8/2

Dolby 3D: 36/6

 

Comps

2.000x Beetlejuice 2 for $19.6M

0.746x Joker 2 for $4.7M

0.303x Dune 2 for $3.0M

 

Average: $9.1M 

 

EA sales

Total sales: 116

New sales : 9

Growth: 8%

Theatres: 3

Showtimes: 3

Formats: Dolby 3D

 

2.109x Joker 2 for $1.5M

5.800x Beetlejuice 2 for $18.0M

0.371x Dune 2 for $0.7M

 

Average: $6.7M

 

Still has some early stage momentum, but it is slowing down. I'll probably do some updates this weekend because I should have time, but I expect things to be quiet.

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On 10/11/2024 at 6:50 AM, vafrow said:

 

Gladiator II, D3, T-42, western GTA (Southern Ontario), Thursday previews 

 

Total Sales: 28

New Sales: 7

Growth: 33%

Theatres: 5

Showtimes: 10

Tickets per Showtime: 2.8

Chains tracked: MTC4

Ticket Premium in effect: N

 

Sales by Showtime

Late Afternoon: 1/2

Early Evening: 19/5

Late Evening: 8/3

 

Preview Sales by Format

Regular: 11/6

IMAX: 17/4

 

Comps

0.193x Dune 2 for $1.9M

2.000x KOTPOTA for $10.0M

0.560x Joker 2 for $3.5M

1.647x BB:RoD for $9.7M

 

Average: $6.3M

 

This is staying steady. I think Bad Boys will probably be the comp I'm watching most, and it had a shorter sales window.

 

I'll probably do another update tomorrow, but I'll probably then switch to T minus and won't bother posting an update until there's enough useful comps.

 

Gladiator II, D4, T-41, western GTA (Southern Ontario), Thursday previews 

 

Total Sales: 36

New Sales: 8

Growth: 28%

Theatres: 5

Showtimes: 10

Tickets per Showtime: 3.6

Chains tracked: MTC4

Ticket Premium in effect: N

 

Sales by Showtime

Late Afternoon: 3/2

Early Evening: 23/5

Late Evening: 10/3

 

Preview Sales by Format

Regular: 15/6

IMAX: 21/4

 

Comps

0.212x Dune 2 for $2.2M

2.571x KOTPOTA for $12.9M

0.610x Joker 2 for $3.8M

1.895x BB:RoD for $11.7M

 

Average: $7.5M

 

Staying pretty strong. 

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1 hour ago, vafrow said:

 

Wicked, D3, T-41, western GTA (Southern Ontario), Thursday previews and Wednesday EA

 

Total Sales: 44

New Sales: 5

Growth: 13%

Theatres: 5

Showtimes: 11

Tickets per Showtime: 4.0

Chains tracked: MTC4

Ticket Premium in effect: N

 

Sales by Showtime

Late Afternoon: 8/3

Early Evening: 28/5

Late Evening: 8/3

 

Preview Sales by Format

Regular: 0/1

Regular 3D: 0/2

Dolby: 8/2

Dolby 3D: 36/6

 

Comps

2.000x Beetlejuice 2 for $19.6M

0.746x Joker 2 for $4.7M

0.303x Dune 2 for $3.0M

 

Average: $9.1M 

 

EA sales

Total sales: 116

New sales : 9

Growth: 8%

Theatres: 3

Showtimes: 3

Formats: Dolby 3D

 

2.109x Joker 2 for $1.5M

5.800x Beetlejuice 2 for $18.0M

0.371x Dune 2 for $0.7M

 

Average: $6.7M

 

Still has some early stage momentum, but it is slowing down. I'll probably do some updates this weekend because I should have time, but I expect things to be quiet.

 

 

Ariana Grande is hosting Saturday night live this night (she's not the musical guest so she's there to promote wicked and not some of her music projects) ...probably even if things are slowing down tomorrow there will be a new positive update

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