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Started to see CM vs Alita posts on twitter... i really hope that this kind of meme does not take off. Comparing both is fine once they are released, but condemning CM even before seeing it is a little annoying. Also, i hope that this stuff is not the reason for Alitas extreme user rating on RT. All this constant politics crap is starting to get to me a little

yeah, it really takes off after volume 4 I guess one could do a sequel that starts off with a bit of 3/4 which culminates in 5 and then do one or two movies that cover the tuned arc and the finale.... would have to reread the manga to be more specific (which i will probably do in the next few weeks )

That is one neat poster! Also nice seeing estimations going up from 50m

i have thought about this quite a lot in the past few days and while i certainly agree that a movie without any budgetary constrains could have been better, what we got is close to the best possible outcome with the compromises that had to be taken. I have the suspicion that the motorball arc (for which the Jai guy is kind of the end boss) would not be the main meat of the sequel. It will be a kind of stepping stone for Alita to cope with Hugos death. I hope that her friendships that she has with the people from Iron City will be fleshed out there a little more (for example in the manga she is friends with the ppl that run Kansas). She even has a singing career I think the Major from GitS is not especially relateable and or likable. She is interesting, but it can be hard emphasizing with her. In general the themes from GitS are more heady and less engaging on an emotional level. That makes an adaption incredibly hard. And yeah i think Bladerunner is actually a movie that fully commited to this kind of story and demonstrates how it can be done right from an artistic point of view (not so much comercially). Alita is the opposite to these two heady/detached kinds of protagonists and the movie captures her as a character very well. She is this sweet, fierce, determined, wide eyed bundle of energy and emotions and with all of its rough edges, this is one of the things the movie practically nailed. So anybody that can relate/emphasize with Alita will probably have a really good time with this adaption, and i guess that is what happened to you?

Seems like it lost a bit of steam on monday? Still above 42 is nice.

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The guy that did a great pre release video about Alita has released a movie review. Very in depth and pretty much nails most of my feelings towards the adaption.

Original Video Animation. Usually anime series that were not aired on tv but went straight to VHS/DVD. Usually higher quality visuals than anime on TV. Alita did get an OVA with only two episodes that covers similar ground to the movie (if you search for Gunnm you can find full copies on youtue).

yeah, compared to the OVAs the movie takes a lot more time to breath (especially in the first hour or so)

Yeah, motorball was only used as a kind of glue to stitch some of the story together. I understand that they wanted the added visual spectacle but overall the movie might have worked better without it. Would also have loved to see Alita saving little Koyomi because she could have bonded with the other hunter warriors through that. Though i guess more brain eating would have been required. I am reallly happy though, that they did not skip Alitas initial defeat against Makaku/Grewishka (as far as i remember the OVA lets Alita win straight away). Her determination and fierceness really shone through there. As you say, overall she really is the glue that keeps this movie together.

https://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=pacificrim.htm

yeah, there is an interview in which Cameron explicitly states that he moved his WETA Avatar team over to Alita because he was so far behind with writing the script. If he hadnt done that he says that he would have had to let them go (guess assigned to different projects? )

I am sorry, but the Aladin trailer/first look does not even get close to this... and yes, part of it is the music, but the whole production gives a much higher quality impression in that trailer. Coming back to the music... it is fascinating that so little has been shown of it up until now. The first proper trailer is going to be interesting.

i think it is interesting that the movie is underperforming like this in latin america (though i guess as you said, usually only animation for kids does big bussiness there so it is expected? ). Iron City is located somewhere in central america (moved there from the US) and Rodrigez explicitly stated that he wanted to add a bit of a hispanic flair to the setting. I have only been to Santiago for a few days, but at least from that limited experience Rodrigez kept his word there.

Yeah, the forum is shot (probably from everywhere except the states? ). Might be amazon cloud related if i understand the error message correctly?

yeah seems like there are some technical difficulties

And i would not even say that Alita is bad exposure for its source.... pretty sure the manga (and its still ongoing sequel series) will sell significantly more copies because of it.

You really think that Alita bombing will help anime getting wider exposure? Well, they did tone it down quite a bit to get there.... far less brain eating than in the original

sounds healthy Could we at least get a 2.5-3x on that for overall gross?

Yeah, i am still taking that audience score with a grain of salt... though i think reactions form 2.5k and up are actually from opening day and not early screenings. So they should be skewing a bit less fanboy/girl. The 4.6 avg rating has also held up reasonably well (did dip for a while to 4.5).

Neat! next thing to worry about is how frontloaded this thing is It also did do pretty good on twitter yesterday (according to https://pro.boxoffice.com/movie/30803/alita-battle-angel ).

Fun fact, in the manga those hands are from a hooker cyborg

Only think i am a bit worried about after watching the teaser a few times is that they go for the easy route of making Elsa a super hero. But yeah, regardless of how this really turns out, its OW will be huge.

seems like the guy is the new goto person for action soundtracks? Well, he is good at doing music that fits in well with (kind of) racing

deadline removed that 237m number from their article and replaced it by 160m-170m.... still a lot, but not outrageously so