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China Box Office Thread | Oppenheimer-August 30
POTUS 2020 replied to A Marvel Fanboy's topic in China At The Box Office
From Wed to Friday the show drop will be 75%+ but likely to be 85%+ WoW as it is losing shows daily with its weak PTA. Today's BO drop looking to be -20%. There is a Thursday release with 6m PS. Could see 40%+ drop for J2 DoD. I think 2nd weekend will be down 85-90% WoW. It has a shot to come in as low as 1.5x OW SW9 PS have begun!! Just 280 shows listed with Y4000 PS. Give it a few days Its up against Ip Man 4 which already has 2.42m PS with 35k shows Ip 3 made 700m/$110m+ in 2016 -
China Box Office Thread | Oppenheimer-August 30
POTUS 2020 replied to A Marvel Fanboy's topic in China At The Box Office
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China Box Office Thread | Oppenheimer-August 30
POTUS 2020 replied to A Marvel Fanboy's topic in China At The Box Office
Looks like today will bump and the weekend (sat-sun) will be down less than 60% after all. 800m/$114m looking good w/o ext They are opening SW9 against IP4 which already has 1.3m PS. They threw that one away. SW9 not listed for PS yet -
China Box Office Thread | Oppenheimer-August 30
POTUS 2020 replied to A Marvel Fanboy's topic in China At The Box Office
50/50 is my guess, they were regularly giving extensions to anything that would make 20m more but lately they have been iffy. @Olive @Gavin Feng? True Just $36m is possible -
China Box Office Thread | Oppenheimer-August 30
POTUS 2020 replied to A Marvel Fanboy's topic in China At The Box Office
j2 coming in flat, thats better than expected? doesn't get much worse except for power rangers. expect -33% tomorrow and down 90% next weekend which is good for F2. F2 coming in at 31m -65% WoW, I thought -50-60% would have happened but the new releases took a lot of shows. Next weekend is lighter in releases and PS, with F2's high PTA it should retain a better % of shows. Likely Projection Sun 25m 729m Tot M-F 15m 744m S-S 27m 771m -50% WoW M-F 7m 778m S-S 13m 791m/$113m 5th and last weekend w/o ext Ext 50m+ 845m/$120m+ possible -
China Box Office Thread | Oppenheimer-August 30
POTUS 2020 replied to A Marvel Fanboy's topic in China At The Box Office
If its PTA continues to hold(and gets ext) up it could make 50m+ from dec 25th (small bump) and dec31/jan1 (bigger bump) and get to mid 800s/$120m. AQM managed to make 200m+ from dec 25th to jan2 Coco made 100m Both were thought to crushed by new releases but their high PTA kept them in theaters -
China Box Office Thread | Oppenheimer-August 30
POTUS 2020 replied to A Marvel Fanboy's topic in China At The Box Office
Maybe 730m by tomorrow night. At 20m already today 694m total. It has by far the highest PTA with 18% rev and 10% shows. New releases are close to flat rev% to show% or worse Bodes well for a good hold next week. With a possible ext and holiday bump 800m+ still on table. 775m$100m floor for now -
China Box Office Thread | Oppenheimer-August 30
POTUS 2020 replied to A Marvel Fanboy's topic in China At The Box Office
They gave the new releases 85% of shows, the highest I've ever seen for just 120m in BO J2 with just 61m for OD, a little over 3x PS. Tomorrow PS looking weak. Won't bump much, $26-28m OW. KO and F2 took a hit just a few % of shows. They will double up on shows tomorrow. F2 PS up 300%+ Chinese audience has matured, its treating many sub par sequels like the rest of the world now. -
Presales Tracking Thread(Maoyan, Taopiaopiao etc)
POTUS 2020 replied to Olive's topic in China At The Box Office
J2 having a PS run this week like an 80m+ PS run. Less than 30% bumps Mon-Wed and less than 70% today, unusual. Maybe Maoyan is off an we get a 4+ PSm. Otherwise it looks like low $30m's for OW. PS slowing down and will finish below 19m at 3am -
China Box Office Thread | Oppenheimer-August 30
POTUS 2020 replied to A Marvel Fanboy's topic in China At The Box Office
Im not much of a forecaster. Cant say until PS start Is BW expected to break out like VNM and AQM instead falling into the usual 700-1000m range? -
Presales Tracking Thread(Maoyan, Taopiaopiao etc)
POTUS 2020 replied to Olive's topic in China At The Box Office
J2 PS at 9m for tues mite. Not bumping 40% daily. PS may finish low 20s. On track for $35-40m OW unless the PSm is higher than recent releases(3.5+) or a high rating -
China Box Office Thread | Oppenheimer-August 30
POTUS 2020 replied to A Marvel Fanboy's topic in China At The Box Office
KO $30-40m, need to see weekday holds if it can do 40m F2 $120m+ if it holds -50% against J2, which I think it will. 6 releases took 75% of shows and made 90m on Fri. J2 and other releases may take 70% of shows and make 120m. F2 should hold well again come saturday -
Presales Tracking Thread(Maoyan, Taopiaopiao etc)
POTUS 2020 replied to Olive's topic in China At The Box Office
J2 PS will get over 5m tonight. I project mid 20s, possibly 30m final PS. $40-50m OW J1 OD 74m OW 268m/$41.5m Tot 492m/$76m @ ¥6.45 to $1 -
China Box Office Thread | Oppenheimer-August 30
POTUS 2020 replied to A Marvel Fanboy's topic in China At The Box Office
100%+ increase for KO to 40m. That's huge compared to the normal 30%. Lets see what it does tomorrow, typical drop is 28-30% Again we had premature estimation and a doom and gloom midweek. F2 90m sat down 46% WoW. thats a great hold these days even for a toon Worst case 725-750m, around 2x OW, $103-107m Best case. It holds well next weekend(sat) -50-60%. and bounces back to -45% then legs to the holidays where we saw coco and AQM get a bump the last 2 years. A movie that holds 45-50% for several weeks will double its opening week(447m). That brings F2 close to 900m/$128m or 2.4x opening weekend(373m) -
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1pcmK6hKSwouXv3UTjaMz8cImKZe3FANxtALGSpLyqfY/edit?usp=sharing
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China Box Office Thread | Oppenheimer-August 30
POTUS 2020 replied to A Marvel Fanboy's topic in China At The Box Office
Its possible, generally an extension doesn't add much, a few percent perhaps. But if it does hold -50% tomorrow and well against next weeks releases it could leg out into the holidays and pick up enough to get over $105m -
China Box Office Thread | Oppenheimer-August 30
POTUS 2020 replied to A Marvel Fanboy's topic in China At The Box Office
FFHS to $200m was looking shaky. It legged out. i bet you a one yuan it gets over $100m. Friday 28.7m. Sat PS are en route to triple. Maybe 85m tomorrow down less than 50% WoW. great hold. If so 703m/$100m locked. 2x OW not dead yet, just mostly dead -
China Box Office Thread | Oppenheimer-August 30
POTUS 2020 replied to A Marvel Fanboy's topic in China At The Box Office
25.5m and counting at 8pm. Very good friday bump with so much show loss. Shows increasing from 14% today to 24% sat and 26% sun as the new releases fade. 75m sat 60m sun. 20% drop like last week or better with increased shows 610m total on Sun. 645m on thur. 195m week. It should get to 703m/ $100m even with a 75% drop next week. -
Some thought it made no difference. Myself and others thought it did cut the legs. the 12th weekend nearly matched the first after up and down fluctuations from 2-10%. then the DVD announcement happened and we saw a 22% drop followed by 33%. No way it holds flat then those drops. If demand burn started to kick in at weekend 13 and we would have seen steady 10% drops for a few weeks, I thought $300m was in the bag. Look at SA, the weekends continued to hold tight for many more weeks. If it ran out like SA did for months on end I thought $400m was a possibility. @edroger3, I already know your reply.
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China Box Office Thread | Oppenheimer-August 30
POTUS 2020 replied to A Marvel Fanboy's topic in China At The Box Office
It could get close to 150m. shows at 14% for tomorrow but back up to 24% on Sat. Expect a 200% bump. Next weekend has bigger competition including J2. 703m/$100m could be missed unless it finds some Dec legs. Shocked it couldn't do 2x Ow, its not an SH movie HLWD not catching a decent run since EG -
F1 weekdays did drop after 2nd week even though the weekends held flat.
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China Box Office Thread | Oppenheimer-August 30
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Friday will suck but expect a 130% bump again on Sat as it gets shows back. It should clear 2x with better than 15% drop today. -
added a few columns. anyone can edit https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Zdn-5nZ0ir-Vtt_MT2E_Ue4vVlEHUhdlUmLhL1GMK0k/edit?usp=sharing I assume Tuesday has a typical demand burn of a few percent. whereas F1 went up on tues and went up considerably more tues to thurs. Lets see how f2 does tomorrow F1 F2 Adm K USD K $ +/- % Adm K USD K $ +/- % F2 vs F1 $ Fri 244 2.170 232 2.900 33.64% Sat 290 3.619 66.77% 615 7.688 165.10% 112.07% Sun 319 3.941 8.90% 642 8.025 4.38% 101.25% Mon 99 1.243 -68.46% 150 1.875 -76.64% 51.52% Tue 107 1.348 8.45% Wed 214 2.694 99.85% Thu 133 1.675 -37.82% Fri 339 4.312 157.43% Sat 335 4.242 -1.62% Sun 359 4.288 1.08%
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China Box Office Thread | Oppenheimer-August 30
POTUS 2020 replied to A Marvel Fanboy's topic in China At The Box Office
yes 75-82% monday drop for toons anyone notice what PS were last night? midpoint has been a moving target lately