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Random fun fact: Incredibles 2 is the highest grossing opener (182.7M) to be #1 on its first weekend and then immediately usurped on its second weekend. Next highest openers that opened at #1 and were immediately supplanted: Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows Part 2 (2011) — 169.2M (fell 72% in its second weekend and supplanted by Captain America: The First Avenger) Deadpool 2 (2018) — 125.5M (supplanted by Solo’s 84.4M opening) Shrek the Third (2007) — 121.6M (supplanted by POTC: At World’s End’s 114.7M opening) For me, this underscores the rarity and enormity of having two openers back-to-back open to such huge numbers - especially $182.7M and ~$145M, respectively. The only comparison to me seems like Shrek the Third and At World’s End both easily opening over $100M back-to-back in 2007. Peace, Mike

Deadpool still hanging on strong. It looks poised to make ~$315-$320M - I consider that to be darn strong retention from the original's $363M final domestic tally. Peace, Mike

I didn't think Incredibles 2 would get hit quite as hard as it did, but as I suspected, it does look to be hurt this weekend particularly because of: 1) the Friday-to-Friday drop thanks to having such large previews (a 50% jump in preview gross from the preview record holder for an animated film, Dory's $9.2M) 2) the Sunday-to-Sunday drop (thanks to its strong Father's Day Sunday hold last weekend) And of course Fallen Kingdom opened this weekend taking away favourable screens and making lots of money. This will obviously hurt Incredibles 2's overall multiplier, but I still think it will stabilize next weekend and have a strong run from here on out. It basically has the conditions for smooth sailing after this weekend, I think, to take advantage of its strong WOM and kid/family appeal. Let's see how it goes. Peace, Mike

Fallen Kingdom seems to show itself strong with walkups once again, at least with opening day. It's share of opening day from previews is one of the smallest for a sequel, especially in this day and age. (The original Jurassic World's share of opening day from previews is still the smallest among the top 40 preview grosses of all-time.) Estimated Top Midnight/Preview Grosses of All-Time Rank / Title / Gross / Share of Opening Day Star Wars: The Force Awakens — 57.0 million (47.9%) Star Wars: The Last Jedi — 45.0 million (43.0%) Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows Part 2 — 43.5 million (47.7%) Avengers: Infinity War — 39.0 million (36.7%) The Dark Knight Rises — 30.6 million (40.4%) The Twilight Saga: Breaking Dawn Part 2 — 30.4 million (42.7%) The Twilight Saga: Breaking Dawn Part 1 — 30.25 million (42.2%) The Twilight Saga: Eclipse — 30.1 million (43.9%) Rogue One: A Star Wars Story — 29.0 million (40.8%) Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice — 27.7 million (34.0%) Avengers: Age of Ultron — 27.6 million (32.7%) The Twilight Saga: New Moon — 26.27 million (36.1%) The Hunger Games: Catching Fire — 25.26 million (35.6%) Black Panther — 25.2 million (33.2%) Captain America: Civil War — 25 million (33.1%) Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows Part 1 — 24 million (38.9%) Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince — 22.8 million (39.2%) Suicide Squad — 20.5 million (31.6%) The Hunger Games — 19.735 million (29.3%) Marvel's The Avengers — 18.7 million (23.1%) Deadpool 2 — 18.6 million (35.1%) Incredibles 2 — 18.5 million (25.9%) The Dark Knight — 18.5 million (27.5%) Jurassic World — 18.5 million (22.6%) Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 — 17 million (30.2%) The Hunger Games: Mockingjay Part 1 — 17 million (30.8%) Star Wars: Episode III - Revenge of the Sith — 16.9 million (33.8%) Transformers : Revenge of the Fallen — 16.8 million (27.1%) Beauty and the Beast — 16.3 million (25.5%) The Hunger Games: Mockingjay Part 2 — 16 million (35.1%) Furious 7 — 15.8 million (23.4%) Iron Man 3 — 15.6 million (22.7%) Spider-Man: Homecoming — 15.4 million (30.5%) Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom — 15.3 million (26.1%) Thor: Ragnarok — 14.5 million (31.0%) Solo: A Star Wars Story — 14.1 million (39.9%) Transformers: Dark of the Moon — 13.5 million (35.8%) The Hobbit: Un Unexpected Journey — 13 million (35.0%) Deadpool — 12.7 million (26.8%) Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix — 12 million (27.1%) Peace, Mike

MT Update (10:20AM EDT / 7:20AM PDT): Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom: 51.7% Incredibles 2: 36.5% Ocean's 8: 2.7% Tag: 1.6% Solo: A Star Wars Story: 1% Peace, Mike

MT Update (8:15PM EDT / 5:15PM PDT): Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom: 46.5% Incredibles 2: 40.2% Ocean's 8: 2.8% Tag: 1.6% Solo: A Star Wars Story: 1% Peace, Mike

Putting all my updates from the weekend thread here now that the thread is unlocked (so we have them all for future reference): MT Update (4:20PM EDT / 1:20PM PDT): Incredibles 2: 45.4% Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom: 39.8% Ocean's 8: 2.9% Tag: 1.9% Solo: A Star Wars Story: 1.1% MT Update (5:20PM EDT / 2:20PM PDT): Incredibles 2: 44.3% Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom: 41.2% Ocean's 8: 2.9% Tag: 1.8% Solo: A Star Wars Story: 1% MT Update (6:15PM EDT / 3:15PM PDT): Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom: 43% Incredibles 2: 43% Ocean's 8: 2.9% Tag: 1.7% Solo: A Star Wars Story: 1% MT Update (7:15PM EDT / 4:15PM PDT): Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom: 44.7% Incredibles 2: 41.6% Ocean's 8: 2.9% Tag: 1.6% Solo: A Star Wars Story: 1% Peace, Mike

MT Update (7:15PM EDT / 4:15PM PDT): Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom: 44.7% Incredibles 2: 41.6% Ocean's 8: 2.9% Tag: 1.6% Solo: A Star Wars Story: 1% Peace, Mike

MT Update (6:15PM EDT / 3:15PM PDT): Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom: 43% Incredibles 2: 43% Ocean's 8: 2.9% Tag: 1.7% Solo: A Star Wars Story: 1% Peace, Mike

I haven't seen the movie, but a good lesson for all of us (myself included) for any movie is that people have differences in opinion. Your worst movie ever made could be someone else's enjoyable time. I personally find it more productive and enjoyable to focus on box office and numbers, and when I do talk about movies, to highlight those I love, rather than harp on movies I don't. It saves me from a lot of negative energy. Cheers. Peace, Mike

That could definitely be the case. It is hard to say, as MT is a rolling update of the last 24 hours of ticket sales. I find it difficult to translate what MT means with such specificity. I'm curious to see where it ends tonight, where it is tomorrow morning, and what it translates to for Thursday previews and Friday proper for JW2. Peace, Mike

MT Update (5:20PM EDT / 2:20PM PDT): Incredibles 2: 44.3% Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom: 41.2% Ocean's 8: 2.9% Tag: 1.8% Solo: A Star Wars Story: 1% Peace, Mike

The Buzz and Tracking thread is closed, but I feel like we need these MT numbers written down somewhere for historical records sake, in case we have two huge back-to-back films open again in the future: MT (4:20PM EDT): Incredibles 2: 45.4% Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom: 39.8% Ocean's 8: 2.9% Tag: 1.9% Solo: A Star Wars Story: 1.1% At the rate that Jurassic World 2 and Incredibles 2 are converging, Jurassic World 2 will take the #1 spot in 2 to 3 hours. Peace, Mike

Theatre counts for this weekend: << Prev. Week < Last Year View Index Next Year > Next Week >> Rank LW Title Distributor Theater Count Change % Change Week # > NEW RELEASES 1 - Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom Universal 4,475 - - 1 32 - Boundaries Sony Classics 5 - - 1 > EXPANDING 12 28 Won't You Be My Neighbor? Focus Features 348 +252 +262.5% 3 14 21 Rampage (2018) Warner Bros. (New Line) 291 +3 +1.0% 11 26 44 The Miracle Season Mirror/LD 30 +12 +66.7% 12 > NO CHANGE 2 1 Incredibles 2 Buena Vista 4,410 - - 2 4 3 Tag Warner Bros. 3,382 - - 2 7 8 Superfly Columbia 2,220 - - 2 25 39 Pandas Warner Bros. 35 - - 12 > DECLINING 3 2 Ocean's 8 Warner Bros. 3,656 -489 -11.8% 3 5 4 Deadpool 2 Fox 2,420 -792 -24.7% 6 6 5 Solo: A Star Wars Story Buena Vista 2,338 -844 -26.5% 5 8 6 Hereditary A24 2,002 -996 -33.2% 3 9 9 Avengers: Infinity War Buena Vista 1,456 -708 -32.7% 9 10 10 Adrift STX Entertainment 871 -1,058 -54.8% 4 11 11 Book Club Paramount 672 -984 -59.4% 6 13 14 Overboard (2018) Pantelion 325 -256 -44.1% 8 15 15 Breaking In (2018) Universal 220 -284 -56.3% 7 16 18 A Quiet Place Paramount 215 -182 -45.8% 12 17 25 Ready Player One Warner Bros. 162 -39 -19.4% 13 18 22 First Reformed A24 151 -122 -44.7% 6 19 24 The Seagull Sony Classics 145 -66 -31.3% 7 20 26 Black Panther Buena Vista 115 -31 -21.2% 19 21 12 Upgrade BH Tilt 101 -545 -84.4% 4 22 23 A Wrinkle in Time Buena Vista 90 -155 -63.3% 16 23 30 I Can Only Imagine Roadside Attractions 71 -14 -16.5% 15 24 29 The Rider Sony Classics 54 -40 -42.6% 11 27 36 Disobedience Bleecker Street 27 -20 -42.6% 9 28 33 On Chesil Beach Bleecker Street 24 -49 -67.1% 6 29 38 Beast Roadside Attractions 9 -36 -80.0% 7 30 48 Chappaquiddick Entertainment Studios 8 -6 -42.9% 12 31 49 2001: A Space Odyssey (2018 re-release) Warner Bros. 5 -8 -61.5% 6 << Prev. Week < Last Year View Index Next Year > Next Week >> Peace, Mike

Black Panther has virtually achieved a 3.5 multiplier (sits at a 3.46 multiplier, will finish at 3.47 if it hits $700M). But I acknowledge that is an exceptional case, and not the norm. The Dark Knight also achieved a really strong 3.38 multiplier, even if not quit a 3.5 multiplier. Animated films tend to have stronger multipliers. Even given the more adult skewing nature of Incredibles 2, I still think it is possible for it to hit a 3.5 multiplier. It has the benefit of summer weekdays and a Labour Day weekend boost into September. Dory hit a 3.6 multiplier off of a $135M opening weekend, which may not be over $150M but is still quite substantial. And it did so with another animated film opening over $100M in its fourth weekend, which hurt it quite a bit that weekend with such direct competition. All I'm saying is it's possible. We're not even into the second weekend yet - let's see how Incredibles 2 fares moving forward. I imagine it will have some strong drops after this weekend. Peace, Mike

$26.9-27M for Incredibles 2 is incredible! Bigger first Tuesday than Infinity War, Avengers, Black Panther, The Last Jedi, and Jurassic World. And as @aabattery points out, it is the 6th best Tuesday of all time. The only better grosses are Tuesday openers or Star Wars films, with two of the three better Star Wars Tuesdays being their second Tuesday in the midst of Christmas holidays. These are huge, huge numbers for any film, let alone an animated film. Peace, Mike

Not only is it Tuesday, but the largest animated film of all time is open for business. Incredibles 2 will have a bigger Tuesday than Avengers, Infinity War, Black Panther, The Last Jedi, and Jurassic World. We have to remember that MovieTickets is a relative measure of tickets sold (based on the percentage of tickets sold), not actual numbers of tickets sold. Peace, Mike

Huge first Monday gross for an animated film. Whether $23.9M or $24.1M, the ~54% drop seems right after a 10.8% Sunday hold. It is commensurate to Toy Story 3 dropping 51% after a 13.5% Sunday hold. Peace, Mike

I so hope you’re right, but that seems unlikely to me. Finding Dory dropped 24% on the Sunday before the 43.5% Monday drop. Toy Story 3, on the other hand, dropped only 13.5% on Sunday and then 51.3% on Monday. I think Incredibles 2 is more likely to drop around Toy Story 3’s drop, given the strong Father’s Day hold (10.8% Sunday drop). I hope I’m proven wrong, though! Peace, Mike

Summer RT Update: 2018 Summer Films RT Watch (Wide-Release — May/June/July/August) The Incredibles 2 — 94% — 7.8 rating Hereditary — 91% — 8.3 rating Tully — 87% — 7.7 rating Upgrade — 86% — 7.1 rating Deadpool 2 — 82% — 7.0 rating Solo: A Star Wars Story — 71% — 6.4 rating Adrift — 70% — 6.2 rating Ocean’s 8 — 66% — 6.2 rating Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom — 60% — 6.1 rating Hotel Artemis — 58% — 5.8 rating Tag — 56% — 5.4 rating Superfly — 53% — 5.5 rating Book Club — 53% — 5.3 rating Bad Samaritan — 52% — 5.6 rating Life of the Party — 38% — 5.0 rating Overboard — 29% — 4.3 rating Breaking In — 25% — 4.2 rating Action Point — 17% — 3.5 rating Show Dogs — 17% — 3.1 rating 2017 — 42 wide-release films 18 fresh, 24 rotten 80% or higher: 14 films 8.0+ rating: 4 films (Dunkirk, The Big Sick, War for the Planet of the Apes, Baby Driver) 2016 — 42 wide-release films 20 fresh, 22 rotten 80% or higher: 9 films 8.0+ rating: 1 film (Kubo and the Two Strings) Peace, Mike

MT Update: Incredibles 2: 66.5% Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom: 9.1% Ocean's 8: 4.9% Tag: 3.8% Solo: A Star Wars Story: 2.2% Jurassic World 2 is making its way up even while the behemoth that is Incredibles 2 does huge numbers and holds strong. Next weekend is going to be huge with both films bringing in tons of people into the theatres. Love it when we get a summer like this. Peace, Mike

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Can't get over the huge weekend for Incredibles 2. Exceptionally strong! (Side note to admins/mods: I've noticed lately that posts actually accept rich text now when copying and pasting, so that all of my formatting of lists - bold, italics, etc - are being retained. So grateful for this - makes posting easier.) Top Animated Film Opening Weekends Rank / Title / Opening Weekend Gross / Multiplier Incredibles 2 (2018) — 180.0 million (TBD) Finding Dory (2016) — 135.1 million (3.60) Shrek the Third (2007) — 121.6 million (2.65) Minions (2015) — 115.7 million (2.90) Toy Story 3 (2010) — 110.3 million (3.76) Shrek 2 (2004) — 108.0 million* The Secret Life of Pets (2016) — 104.4 million (3.53) Inside Out (2015) — 90.4 million (3.94) Despicable Me 2 (2013) — 83.5 million* Monsters University (2013) — 82.4 million (3.26) Zootopia (2016) — 75.1 million (4.55) The Simpsons Movie (2007) — 74.0 million (2.47) Despicable Me 3 (2017) — 72.4 million (3.65) Shrek Forever After (2010) — 70.8 million (3.37) The Incredibles (2004) — 70.5 million (3.71) Finding Nemo (2003) — 70.3 million (4.84) Dr. Seuss’ The Lorax (2012) — 70.2 million (3.05) *Wednesday Opener Peace, Mike

Anything is possible, but it would be basically unheard of for a well-received Pixar film. Only Cars 2 and Cars 3 have sub-3 multipliers, and they are arguably the worst Pixar films (certainly the worst in terms of critical reception). All of the critically acclaimed Pixar films (90+% on RT) that opened on a Friday had 3.5+ multipliers (Wall-E with the lowest at 3.55). I still feel this will have strong Pixar legs, given the strong critical reception, apparently strong WOM (A+ Cinemascore, etc), and summer weekdays revving up. But you're right in that this is a massive opening weekend - so maybe your hunch will prove to be correct. *shrug* Peace, Mike

As mentioned, $59M for Saturday would be very strong considering both Finding Dory and Toy Story 3 stayed flat on Saturday compared to True Friday. Looks like the weekend could look like this overall (or better if Father's Day buoys it even more - I'm just already surprised by the strong Sat): THU: 18.5M FRI: 53M SAT: 59M (+11%) SUN: 50M (-15%) ------------------ TOTAL: $180.5M This would represent the 8th best opening weekend of all-time. Insane numbers! Shattering the previous animated film record. Top Opening Weekends of All-Time & Share from Previews Rank / Title / Opening Weekend Gross / Share of Opening Weekend from Previews/Midnights Avengers: Infinity War — 257.7 million (15.1%) Star Wars: The Force Awakens — 248.0 million (23.0%) Star Wars: The Last Jedi — 220.0 million (20.5%) Jurassic World — 208.8 million (8.9%) Marvel’s The Avengers — 207.4 million (9.0%) Black Panther — 202.0 million (12.5%) Avengers: Age of Ultron — 191.3 million (14.4%) Incredibles 2 — 180.5 million (10.2%) - potential/projected gross Captain America: Civil War — 179.1 million (14.0%) Beauty and the Beast — 174.8 million (9.3%) Iron Man 3 — 174.1 million (9.0%) Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows Part 2 — 169.2 million (25.7%) Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice — 166.0 million (16.7%) The Dark Knight Rises — 160.9 million (19.0%) The Dark Knight — 158.4 million (11.7%) The Hunger Games: Catching Fire — 158.1 million (16.0%) Rogue One: A Star Wars Story — 155.1 million (18.7%) The Hunger Games — 152.5 million (12.9%) Spider-Man 3 — 151.1 million (6.6%) Furious 7 — 147.2 million (10.7%) Peace, Mike