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That's OK, I know other people. 😉 People love to make assumptions, even you...!

I'm betting that hanging out in this thread this weekend will be more entertaining than the movie, itself... 😁

Of course it's a real poster... you lot are too, too cynical these days... The only question is whether the Aussie PR was supposed to put it out, yet... But it's getting down to the wire.

Any speculation that Villeneuveee already shot pieces of things that will be used in Part 2? That could have happened, as well.

Beat ya to it with Black Widow and Shang-Chi. It's the new Bollywood-style norm, apparently -- 155-160 minutes. Bond, this, Dune, apparently Spider-Man... Dune's story arguably deserves it more than most of the rest... Next year they'll be edging 3 hours just to fit in all the multi-million visual effects sequence investment...

Gal Gadot is more attractive to look at than almost anyone in Eternals -- that's the simple subconscious reason why the still mostly male-contingent of critics voted WW84 just a bit higher. 😁

Someone on this page has the right idea about what's going on...that's all I'm sayin'...

Wish this was playing a couple more weeks in IMAX/Experience theatres... I missed it last weekend and as of Thursday afternoon, it's being booted for the already much-less-well-received Eternals in most territories in the U.S. I'm frankly not interested in seeing it on the big screen at all unless it has that extra IMAX-ness! And yeah, even tonight, it seems to be filling up most local IMAX's nearby me. This thing clearly has legs and decent word-of-mouth; it could have gone a week or two more in these theatres... Oh well, guess it's HBOMax for me...

I think he's been stuck over in Europa for 10 years, @tonytr87. 😁

Yeah, well...the events they're referring to in the trailer are Venom 1/2, right? So they happened, whether or not that thing in the post-credits does or not... 🤣 But yes, the mish-mash of everything else is SONY's way of throwing their proverbial continuity darts against the wall and waiting to see what sticks...

I know this is not quite your point, but... it seems as if it's *not* that big of a budget on this one -- it was estimated early on to be only half -- possibly even just a third -- of what they spent on the last one... Let them get the nostalgia out of the way and get the franchise "back on track," and if this thing's successful...they'll go hog wild with the next one, you can be SONY-sure...

Yeah, Iron Man was fun and all, but I miss this guy... One hopes that, consciously clear that RDJ is probably taking this role for much less than his typical blockbuster lately, that he might be induced to deliver something a little more interesting...

Amazing things can be done in post-production...😁 But yeah, would be hilarious if Keaton's role amounted to the two sentences he's been seen saying in these two trailers... I think it's pretty clear that there's believability to the notion that SONY likes to SHOW more than tell these days, and MARVEL clearly wants to preserve more for the first-viewing experience. And yeah, if the movie doesn't work out, they can just say "That wasn't the same Toomes from the same Earth." Way better trailer than the first one. I don't know... I kinda dig what Leto seems to be doing here; it's subtle, interesting, and he's clearly letting the effects speak for themselves -- which do look fairly interesting. Will take seeing the entire movie to interpret, but already looks way better to me than Venom...but Venom has Tom Hardy. So the push-pull...

"Spoiled Rotten" comes to mind... If fans keep eating and eating, eventually they will spoil-gorge themselves, and have nothing left to enjoy. Maybe this movie is the tipping point.

The reason the sequel failed is simple: it was an inferior movie, and everyone involved ultimately knew that. The original is a classic, don't let your post-post-post modern brain tell you otherwise. 😁 The reason the new one is leaning so heavily into nostalgia for the original film should be obvious to everyone here: they are clearly attempting to steer audiences clear of any perception that this movie has anything to do with the last one.

Master PR is encouraging your audience *not* to have high expectations...then blowing them out of the water with the results. Feige has already learned from the Eternals pushback... 😁 Here's how I would do it. You don't need them shown fully in the trailer... just show Holland beaten up badly in a corner...and another Spider-hand (or both) reaches into the frame. That's all you need to make everyone buy in opening weekend.

Bad vibes, you say??? I know someone who can help:

My objection is more to the idea that VARIETY is the oldest trade in the business...and they should be better than this. But they aren't anymore, because yeah, they have to survive like anyone else...and they, Deadline, THR are all essentially now owned by the same people (look it up). ::throws hands up::

Chu needs to get back to those CRAZY RICH ASIANS sequels. That's where the money is.... but if they wait too long on that, too, any anticipation will die... It already has been too long.

Exactly. VARIETY piling on for clicks. Not really cool or legit in industry terms.

Feige talks glowingly about every single MCU film he makes...that's his job. Yes, he seemed high on Eternals, but that could also just be PR-speak in giving respect to a critically more highly-regarded filmmaker than the usual MCU director... I thought No Way Home was the end of the current deal between Sony/Marvel? What are the real facts, here? Do you mean Marvel themselves have one more "option" to use Spidey in one of their films? But yes... if Maguire shows up in NWH...and then doesn't in Raimi's film, it's equivalent for me to the Star Wars' franchise not reuniting Luke, Leia, Han all together for at least one scene. Bizarre!

I don't know why anything of the very small amount I just said would somehow be construed as me being a "fanboy" of Baldwin. In fact, I'm no fan whatsoever, but he's a human being who's caught in the middle of all of this -- and I have no idea what kind of role his Producer credit entailed here, and neither do you. Don't hate me for talking about reality. All I said was that based on what we know so far (which can always change) it's unlikely that Baldwin will be found legally liable in this matter. But none of us knows until it's settled, sure. That doesn't mean he can't or won't do something to support the grieving family here -- I'm sure he will. It's a horrible situation all around -- let's not needlessly throw stones at each other.

No he didn't! Where's that social media post? [Shhhhh] 🤫

Was SLATE's review posted here? Read it this morning... Ouch... https://slate.com/culture/2021/10/eternals-marvel-movie-review-angelina-jolie-gemma-chan.html

If the book is important to you, that's fine. But anyone who takes any piece of cinema as beholden to any piece of literature that it might be based on is not taking the art of filmmaking seriously on its own accords. It's a complete art on its own, yet involves all other arts in its creation. There are people who spend time on "adaptation studies," but I choose to analyze the values of the visual medium itself and what it can do, regardless of where its source material derives from. In that sense, for me Lynch's DUNE is a wild fever dream of fascination...