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A Sorcerer Stone to Chamber of Secret drop: 317.58m -> 262m Would do on Fantastic Beast 2: 234m -> 193m The excitement of the first Potter on screen must have been bigger than the return on screen of the wizardry world in a spin off form, so yeah under 193m do sound really bad and it could reflect that despite Fantastic Beast good multiplier and nice production design/world building people didn't like that movie has much as the surface show. Potter in the past could have #1 and 2 spot at the same time: https://www.the-numbers.com/home-market/packaged-media-sales/2011 With a really perfect date for 2017 rental/sales (didn,t burn any demand in 2016 and early enough release in 2017 to have most of is business in that year): https://pmcdeadline2.files.wordpress.com/2018/04/mpaa-theme-report-2017.pdf Physical rental: #18 Digital rental: #19 Physical sales: #10 Digital sales through: #9 I do not know anyone that particularly liked the first entry Fantastic Beast

Yeah Spider-Man 3 broke the OW all time record by 13% and nothing opened 13% higher than is 151.1m until the Avengers 5 year's later, was the third biggest movie of it's year and without even considering market growth made over 1080 millions in 2018 dollar, significantly bigger movie, but it had a 365m net budget in 2018 dollar with some ridiculously big marketing campaign and featured spider-man after 2 extremely well received entry, so that is to be expected and Venom could still win the most impressive battle between the 2 here.

Not sure that can make much sense, that it can change the movie profit the actual day it start, Isn't it more about the OW-box office obsessed press and audience. Wonder is some snow storm isn't simply the reason of the lower last night preview numbers.

Maybe some did see it both time, but early limited previews in popular show time, popular place for such event would often be sold out ? Adding days and starting earlier should boost the amount.

They are brillant, it make no sense that thursday showing are called Friday numbers or weekend either, yet are now accepted so will tuesday fan events eventually. They know a lot of people decide to see a movie or not see a movie according to the OW press, using general audience decision making to inform theirs, those tricks help that press.

Ok thanks, that what I suspected, so if under 10:1 is mediocre, an under 1 is disastrous I imagine. Thats too bad, I thought that franchise could have had quite a good potential there and for the first one China was the biggest market after domestic, but if the movie rely into the old material I guess that make it hard on the new market.

Not sure how to read it, what is the difference between the 2 FB2 mentioned is one a typo and referring to FB1 one score ? From different day or source ?

Speaking of Dog acting, the dog actor in The Thing was crazy good: On that one you need a dog that do not get distracted by the presence of a group of dog and still act: On the commentary track they talk about it, how different and better than the other dog actor in the movie he was.

Mid90s not reaching 8.5m is a bit of a deception with the first original buzz and PTA, not surprising with the strong new release offer but First Man really did bleed those theaters fast, will maybe have it's theater run end before the Globes nominations weekend boost and not be able to get any award season helps.

2,700 is not particularly a good footprint for a big budget PG-13 affair.

That could leg really well anyway Instant Family.

It is a best seller book author making a streamed in theater conference I think, never heard of her before.

Apparently (I remember vaguely Shane Black talking about sequels issue of those days), salaries got a bit out of control. Gibson got a rumored guaranteed 30M for example, that 46M in today dollar, today when Dwayne Johnson make deal with less than half of that it make the news. It also was made with full overtime payment and rushed in a very short window: https://www.denofgeek.com/us/movies/lethal-weapon/247889/the-ridiculously-fast-turnaround-time-of-lethal-weapon-4 Compared to a well oiled machine ultra efficient production like Spielberg was doing at the time with a Tom Hanks Saving Private Ryan, the difference look big.

We had Ocean 8/Den of Thieve and I imagine Hurricane Heist (not seen but with that title) this year, Logan Lucky/Baby Driver last year.

We see only the comments of 2 of the 155 1/10 score and the US were the movie is yet to release has 12.3% 1/10 reviews versus 2.9% for non-US users (for those IMDB know the place they come from) That really does not look like a normal law distribution or a normal movie distribution: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt4218572/ratings?demo=us_users When the movie will hit the screen with real audience, you will see that percentage of 1/10 score go down.

Black director/lead on IMDB.... That 5.5% of 1/10 is a bit suspect, really some real viewer thought that Widows was one of the worst movies ever made ?

Box office pro twitter metric (if they are reliable) are really good also: https://pro.boxoffice.com/movie/31667/widows Twitter Index DATE # TWEETS POS:NEG RATIO November 13, 2018 311 28 : 1 November 12, 2018 504 104 : 1 November 11, 2018 493 14 : 1

You do not think that co-worker, friend, family, students, that speak about the movies they saw to people they know influence their choice ? Not so long ago we had (illegal but not controlled) marketing firm than hired unknown actor to talk about their product all days long in very crowded place like an inventor in a building or the metro, because of powerful it is, imagine when it come from people you know. Have you never seen a movie because someone you known talked about it to you ? Or people on a movie message board/your facebook ? I have you never talked about a movie to people in real life or electronically and they went to see a movie in part because of your feedback ?

For the people that know them, it is not Joe Schmoe..... https://www.researchgate.net/publication/313860511_Spread_the_Word_-_The_Effect_of_Word_of_Mouth_in_E-Marketing https://www.researchgate.net/publication/270216495_Word_of_mouth_on_social_media There is a reason Facebook made 40 billions in revenues last year, it is a powerful tool to sales ideas to people because it in part use the old very powerful WOM mechanism.

Must be quite true that fanbase even the 9 year's old in 2008 are adult now, by 2011 it was probably already quite adult.

Are teen audience still big enough to matter ? https://mic.com/articles/76207/why-children-s-movie-audiences-are-filled-with-24-year-olds#.2ZALoReoB Family audience and people over 17 seem to be pretty much all of those movies audience now a day.

They often do for re-master edition: https://www.jwfan.com/?p=11012 New Review: ‘Close Encounters of the Third Kind’ – 40th Anniversary Remastered Edition https://www.theguardian.com/film/2016/may/26/close-encounters-of-the-third-kind-review-a-must-watch-directors-cut Close encouter got 13 reviews: https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/close_encounters_of_the_third_kind_40th_anniversary_release/ Terminator 2 got 24 reviews in 2017 I think.

Must have been a while with the IMAX 2D, 3D, Fandom Event, Fandom Event Imax, etc.... sales combined,

Never heard of hear having any link with royals before, let alone a princess.

Yes I think the low budget idea when the material made a shift toward an giant action movie storyline didn't made it safer at all.