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  1. That a bit of an exaggeration of the truth too, you do not need 140M at the box office for a movie that is extremely cheap like that (only 70M on budget + WW P&A is quite low) It can sometime get special, like in the Soderbergh example, Kevin Smith did a speech about that situation at Sundance I think one year when he decided to not sell Red State and auto-distribute it, you make a movie $4M, you sell if $6M it get the small Weinstein $20M release, now the studio need to make back $26M for a $4m movie. For a giant ultra wide world release like the Invisible Men, by an studio like Universal, considering and depending how the participation work, maybe not to make any profit, but to make an interesting one it can get quite high. At a $70M world release P&A for example with participation bonus that start to kick in at 50M domestic. The thing is at that budget, studios will easily not spend anything on the release of a $7M movie if it is not one that both the trailers and the movie test really well, if they go all in promo wise, it is because they already know they have something in their hands that sell.
  2. Is imdb release info up to date ? They have only those market left to open for Onward: Estonia 13 March 2020 Australia 2 April 2020 Turkey 3 April 2020 South Korea 15 April 2020 Italy 16 April 2020 Hong Kong 23 April 2020 That would be quite the extremely low intl start, hard to believe pandemy fear isn't having a massive effect.
  3. How many made a significant profit ? (they could be negative in the hole and make that profit line look smaller than reality) I feel like they tend to exaggerate some movie profit by downplaying participation, they are being a bit over the top sensational, $125M WW P&A for a movie that got it's release cancelled / quite limited in many market, 43% of the movie revenue from the box office (for that genre, for that level of domestic heavy, for that box office range, their annual estimate they do also do not match studio bottom line at all.
  4. Not revenue (that would be 20 billion), in profit and not since between those 2 date, you are removing everything from 1 October 2019 to today (that removing 100% of any cent Disney+ ever did that go into the film division, Frozen 2, Star Wars 9, etc...) and you were talking about since January 2017. Fox is so late here that I doubt it is in those (no movement seen yet). Exactly, but current film expenditure will be on the previous as well, if slate are someone constant and that from 12 month to 12 month it is looking similar it probably balance a lot of themselve out. Much better yes and the only one we ever got the chance to ever look because of the Sony leak do not match your figure, a movie like Marry Poppins for example would have made good money according to them. The studio didn't loose 130m on Stealth (135m budget with participation bonus making 32m domestic at the BO), how does a studio loose 130M on Wrinkle in Time ?
  5. The video is talking about the other way around, MCU actor in DC. I think they took either a Hemsworth joke for serious or Disney is putting clause with little chance of holding in court , the non-compete laws was tried by studios in the past and failed (for much more relevant case than the one described here), it would not hold up in a California court, the state forbid non-compete clause: https://www.calpeculiarities.com/2016/04/20/california-court-gives-two-thumbs-down-and-voids-non-compete-in-actors-agreement/ California, mecca of the film and media production industries in the U.S., is notorious for outlawing non-compete agreements. It is one of the few states that generally prohibits the unlawful restraint of one’s profession or business, with limited exceptions. (See Cal. Bus. & Prof. Code § 16600 et seq.). Last year’s decision in ITN Flix, LLC v. Hinojosa, 2015 WL 10376624 (C.D. Cal. May 13, 2015), illustrates that courts may strike down such unlawful non-competes, even outside the traditional employer-employee context. It can maybe work if someone signed with a New-York/foreign to California jurisdiction and try to work here, but between 2 californian one, I doubt there is any chance. That said it does not mean they would not still put them in contracts.
  6. With all respect for your box office tracking, I feel your numbers here are quite off base and do not match known reality. Disney movie operating income From october 2016 to october 2017: 2,355M from 8,379M revenues From october 2017 to october 2018: 2,980M from 9,987M revenues. From october 2018 to october 2019: 2,686M from 11,127M revenues. They probably made around 8 billion from movies in that time frame, they have a strong vault for sure but that would be quite the amount coming from legacy libraries dvd/tv sales. I would be shock if Robin/Poppins lost money or that the 480M outside China Ralph just broke even http://www.annualreports.com/HostedData/AnnualReportArchive/w/NYSE_DIS_2016.pdf http://www.annualreports.com/HostedData/AnnualReports/PDF/NYSE_DIS_2018.pdf https://thewaltdisneycompany.com/app/uploads/2020/01/2019-Annual-Report.pdf
  7. How much it is more created than your example (elf, manticore, centaur, faun, cyclops) and the long list of fantasy drop do not exist less for filmmaker than 1969 real world. That obsession with originality being present in the wikipedia resume of a movie or not is special.
  8. Both I imagine had some R-rated equivalent ? I imagine the propaganda minister/whatever it is worry about child being exposed to LGBTQ stuff.
  9. Pixar has according to google around 1,400 well payed employee and they release about 1 movie a year, that start there movie with a $140M price tag and after that you have voice actor, travel and external expert engaged for a specific project, some external studio for some not in-house stuff. The big electricity bill/Epyc rendering farm/Maya type licensing and so on. I think that in good part why they often cost so much, how long they take to make them, when you hear story that 3 year's into a movie they change a major element and restart (like they did for say Zootopia for a costly Disney one), it is easy to see how those 5 year's project amortized among all of them, up the cost really high. And pixar has a tradition to develop technology to will rise the price a movie (and then be available for all the next one), they made a very expensive backpack simulation for the Monster Inc. University prequel, something I doubt other would do.
  10. I imagine the reason the close school/kid day care, could be that they are such incubation machine, they will bring it home to the adults even if it does not much to them.
  11. I had 2-3 working here (In Canada), not sure how official it was, I am not surprised if it didn,t work well (same happen for popular UFC/boxing, HBO big episode, superbowl), streaming is really a bad idea for popular event watched by a lot of people at the same time, that what broadcast is all about, net neutrality will probably be removed (already the case here in Canada) before those work well.
  12. It was rather accessible last time around, in the USA you had Abc stream and many other stream for free (https://oscar.go.com/live), but even in many market it was not blocked (and youtube had a stream has well, but could have been youtube prime or what the paying option is called) The superbowl stream get a very small % of audience, I would imagine it was the same for this, almost everyone in the USA still has a tv that get ABC on it, specially the audience for who the luxury item advertising made during the show target, but it could be large, I would be curious to see the numbers.
  13. You are on a thread called box office tracking............ it is all about for absolutely no reason at all trying to predict what movies will do in 2-3-4 weeks from now, it absolutely do not make any sense why we care and take that endeavor..... But you opened a box office tracking thread on a box office forum, you were not looking for anything of value right ?
  14. Just at a certain point, when a studio buy an Adam Sandler movie 80m, we rarely take into account how much Sandler and is production company made when talking about how successful a movie was, we only look at it from the buyer of the movie point of view without caring about the financing split. And when people talk about financing split past that point (say pointing out who took the hit on Blader Runner failure or that Liongates pre-sold almost all markets) it usually does not imply how successful the movie was or not indeed. It is not like there is any reason for people to care about any of this 99% of time either, it is not like any of us take any action based on how successful movie are or not, it is just purely a waste of time that made non-sense at all, talking about the financing split is just an other way too loose our time, not more or less relevant than anything else that is ever talked about regarding box office on Internet.
  15. I just listened (quite late) on the THR roundtable and Universal studio head did talk about their complete reverse strategy for those Monster universe title and it did seem to be a good one they found. Superb start for them.
  16. In a context that a giant % of the electorate consider all those story are always made up panic to sales ads in the media and corrupted official teaming-up with big pharmacology lobby.
  17. Xenophobia can rapidly reach sky high in pandemy situation, I imagine in many ways that why so many humans are programmed to be xenophobic, protection against unknown to their anti corps illness. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/feb/27/doctors-and-nurses-at-melbourne-hospital-racially-abused-over-coronavirus-panic https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-02-27/childrens-hospital-staff-racial-discrimination-coronavirus-fears/12004690 https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/20/us/coronavirus-racist-attacks-against-asian-americans/index.html https://www.economist.com/china/2020/02/17/the-coronavirus-spreads-racism-against-and-among-ethnic-chinese Knowing that it is such a strong and natural reaction, it is possible for some entity (media/politic/science) to try to reduce xenophobia and have it in mind in coverage/policy decision and not just have what are the best course of action in a survival mode one. For example, not ban travel from China or quarantine them or in Europe Bruxelle not letting country stop free circulation, I imagine some will think that some woke type consideration went on (even if the trying to keep the stock market up type were much stronger). A pandemy will have free transport, freedom in general (government can get really tempted to spy), racism and so on aspect.
  18. They sold a lot of it good while ago, enough now that it is not public anymore if they still own any. Many other could be bigger by now, but by the time of the transaction:
  19. Or simply money difference, Spielberg can ask for a lot of first dollar gross he usually do (apparently that why he had an hard time getting Lincoln made, it was because of how much he ask). Specially if release become Disney+ exclusive and how does that work with previous contract made before that reality.
  20. Was it not $23M last weekend, : Birds Of Prey, had a decent drop of 46% to add $23M from 78 markets. Could see actual going higher, 56-57% drop for non-China intl market week 3 without any competition opening sound quite harsh or maybe Valentin Day is a factor WW.
  21. Considering what the Jumanji remake did you could be right.
  22. Isn't the reason why it is doing over 200M the giant and impressive production value in the trailers ? You can cut for sure, but a lot and you denature the very concept and the appeal.
  23. If those numbers hold normally yes. JW2 third weekend was $9.358m for a sunday total of $74.77M (more than $2M more than BOP) and ended with $91.97. Wick added 1.84 it's third weekend, if BOP do the same it would finish around $85M
  24. I could imagine a bit like you do no want to tell Sam Jackson to redo a take because the cats was not doing the right thing on camera, if you get Ford maybe he didn't want to act with a dog, animal can had a lot of shooting hours. I agree with it being a good OW for something like this, hard to imagine doing more than that, put it at least it opened category it is all in the hands of the legs and intl now, A Dog purpose made 205M with a 18.22m opener after all.
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