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The Box Office Buzz and Tracking Thread: Electric Boogaloo
Menor the Destroyer replied to grim22's topic in Numbers and Data
Jungle Cruise MTC2 Thursday: Showtimes: 1447 Tickets Sold: 4988/231797 Friday: Showtimes: 3020 Tickets Sold: 7421/510823 Don't have great comps, but idk about 2.5 million previews from this. 30 million seems pretty optimistic. Btw just as a disclaimer this is including damaged/not-for-sale seats. Since that will affect every film it should be fine and once numbers are higher (like the day before and same day) it won't make a huge difference proportionally, and that is where the comps really matter anyway. -
The Box Office Buzz and Tracking Thread: Electric Boogaloo
Menor the Destroyer replied to grim22's topic in Numbers and Data
Let me check. First, I need to revert the change to my script caused by that DBOX update/reversion that MTC2 did. -
Imo as Delta spreads we will be seeing more disappointing openings and drops. A big part of the decent numbers in late May and June was the feeling that the virus was getting over and we were on our way out. That is now gone. BW we knew wasn't having good legs for a while but that is a very poor drop for Space Jam which didn't seem to be really hated by audiences either. Day and date can't be helping the legs of these films either.
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The Box Office Buzz and Tracking Thread: Electric Boogaloo
Menor the Destroyer replied to grim22's topic in Numbers and Data
To add to what Porthos said, the daily pace is also far less than H&S at this point if I'm extrapolating that comp right. So the comp will keep dropping. -
The Box Office Buzz and Tracking Thread: Electric Boogaloo
Menor the Destroyer replied to grim22's topic in Numbers and Data
For really big movies it won't make a difference but it definitely will for smaller tracks. Reason I found it was just looking through my data for Suicide Squad and a large percentage of the sales were for these kinds of seats. -
The Box Office Buzz and Tracking Thread: Electric Boogaloo
Menor the Destroyer replied to grim22's topic in Numbers and Data
https://www.cinemark.com/TicketSeatMap/?TheaterId=355&ShowtimeId=151081&CinemarkMovieId=84699&Showtime=2021-08-06T19:00:00 https://www.cinemark.com/TicketSeatMap/?TheaterId=355&ShowtimeId=151082&CinemarkMovieId=84699&Showtime=2021-08-06T22:15:00. These are two that I found. -
The Box Office Buzz and Tracking Thread: Electric Boogaloo
Menor the Destroyer replied to grim22's topic in Numbers and Data
There are a few physical distance buffer seats in scattered theaters (I think they are mostly errors or something). But the bigger issue is these other blocked seats that are labeled identical to sold seats on the homepage (with the difference only showing up on Fandango). -
The Box Office Buzz and Tracking Thread: Electric Boogaloo
Menor the Destroyer replied to grim22's topic in Numbers and Data
Keyser's numbers have usually been slightly above mine (if this was the issue I would expect the opposite). But I think it's still worth looking at anyway so the numbers will be reliable for the future. -
The Box Office Buzz and Tracking Thread: Electric Boogaloo
Menor the Destroyer replied to grim22's topic in Numbers and Data
That is really helpful, thanks for the tip. Maybe Fandango will be more reliable to track than the Cinemark homepage. Although I would have to make sure I don't get IP banned like last time lol. -
The Box Office Buzz and Tracking Thread: Electric Boogaloo
Menor the Destroyer replied to grim22's topic in Numbers and Data
They appear to be exactly identical in the homepage code. I wonder if Fandango would show the same. -
The Box Office Buzz and Tracking Thread: Electric Boogaloo
Menor the Destroyer replied to grim22's topic in Numbers and Data
Ok in investigating this I found a huge problem. Cinemark has a huge amount of default blocked seats. Examples being https://www.cinemark.com/TicketSeatMap/?TheaterId=355&ShowtimeId=151081&CinemarkMovieId=84699&Showtime=2021-08-06T19:00:00 https://www.cinemark.com/TicketSeatMap/?TheaterId=355&ShowtimeId=151082&CinemarkMovieId=84699&Showtime=2021-08-06T22:15:00. I found many others in various theaters. Here, the seats sold are identical between the two showings, which means that either 1) the seats are blocked by default or 2) the seats sold have somehow been combined between the showings (perhaps due to some error in their website update yesterday). It is a big problem though for my numbers. I can't be sure of the reliability after finding this, and I'm not sure how long it's been around. Hopefully it was an error stemming from yesterday's update, but I can't be sure. Have any trackers who track Cinemark theaters noticed this? Also, even the DBOX update was inconsistent, with some theaters still using the old DBOX system. Edit: The DBOX update now seems to have been completely reverted. After I rewrote my script for it too! This is annoying. Not gonna track until they stabilize. So, in short, it's a huge mess right now. -
The Box Office Buzz and Tracking Thread: Electric Boogaloo
Menor the Destroyer replied to grim22's topic in Numbers and Data
At long last, Cinemark has updated its DBOX display to actually show the DBOX seats in normal shows! ...which does explain why I was getting negative numbers for TSS sales today, lol. ...and now the default price on a normal showing with DBOX seats available is shown as the default price. Which makes scraping the actual price require a browser simulator rather than a normal scraper. -
The Box Office Buzz and Tracking Thread: Electric Boogaloo
Menor the Destroyer replied to grim22's topic in Numbers and Data
It may be worth throwing in an adjusted H&S comp though. Just as another possible scenario of how things could go, especially given the surprise boost yesterday. -
The Box Office Buzz and Tracking Thread: Electric Boogaloo
Menor the Destroyer replied to grim22's topic in Numbers and Data
Thursday: Showtimes: 1384 (-1) Seats Sold: 3931/221069 (+202) 0.135x Black Widow's Day 6 total (1.78 million) Friday: Showtimes: 3215 (no change) Seats Sold: 2874/526594 (+154) 0.183x Black Widow's Day 6 total (4.81 million) Daily pace is really bad. The pace ratio is 0.136x of BW Thurs, 0.185x of BW Fri.