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I enjoyed it. I give it a solid 8/10. Would have been higher if a couple of things that I expected and wanted to happen happened, but since they didn't I lowered the score. It's definitely not a movie for everyone, so I expect average legs or maybe below average legs (By that I mean Civil War, not Morbius legs). I will watch it a couple of more times and I 100% wanna watch it in 3D.

Morbius multiplier off 150 OW would get it to 288 (assuming Morbius makes it to 75MM).

Phase 4 is definitely hit and miss for me. The ones I disliked I will never watch again and the worst subversion in MCU for me happened in this phase. Personally I liked Wandavision, Moon Knight, Loki, Shang Chi, NWH Disliked FaTWS, Black Widow, Eternals Neutral on Hawkeye, What If I don't think it has anything to do with scaling up though, but more about scaling out. What I mean by that is straying away from the formula that got them here. By doing both at the same time there'll be some misses. Hopefully they iron it all out.

Eternals was undoubtedly a misfire. We can talk about the reasons as to why, but it was panned by critics and it lost money at the BO.

Again I will ask for a source for this. It stands to reason that TFCF owned the fanfare, the 20th Century logo, FX logos, Searchlight and so on. Disney's own 2019 10-K and annual report state that What you are saying is interesting, if true, but I don't take anything at face value and I would really like to see a source for this. The only evidence I could find points to the opposite of what you are claiming. Common sense and verbiage from the acquisition also leads me to believe that the logos, brands, and fanfares related to the studios and production facilities bought by Disney belongs to them. New FOX (i.e. Rupert's company) retained the FOX Business, FOX Channel and the like. I must also say that noticing the "searchlight" on the above logo and suggesting that it's the same as the ones from 20th Century Fox and Fox Searchlight is a reach at best. That to me looks like the FOX Business logo that's been kinda like that forever, maybe with a few changes. New FOX retained FOX Business. Apples and oranges.

Not sure, but potato cam footage always upsets me for some reason.

I read somewhere the Across the spiderverse has 1000 people working on it. Is this true? First one had a budget of 90MM, but if this has 1000 people on it then the budget will balloon up significantly. Or maybe they are sharing them across both films to keep the budget under control.

I don't follow China BO as well as some of y'all but I've seen no indication that it'll release in China. Maybe I missed something. IIRC in the past we'd get a China release date 2 weeks or so before its premiere. Sometimes more. There's no word there. We are now 7 Marvel movies in a row and counting without a China release. There's a gay character, apparently prominent enough where editing is not feasible and the movie got banned in some countries already. That plus the supernatural stuff + the streak of Marvel movies not released in China tells me chances of it happening is pretty low. Thor is probably not happening as there'll be some gay themes in that movie. Same with The Marvels. BP Wakanda Forever and Ant Man are maybes, but we don't know anything about those movies or if the apparent de facto Marvel ban will have been lifted by then. It's easy to say that when it's not your money in play. Though they shouldn't because of the current high debt and low liquidity Marvel and Disney can kinda eat up not getting the ~20-25% gross from a likely 50-100MM BO Gross that Eternals or Shang Chi would have gotten. However something like their regular movies that get to 150MM or 200MM then it becomes a bit harder. Avengers or the inevitable Secret Wars....those would net Disney over 100MM each. It would be fiduciary irresponsible to their shareholders to not release these products there.

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/doctor-strange-multiverse-madness-movie-saudi-arabia-ban-1235133898/

Not sure I understand Sony's rationale with the date. I get the moving due to conspiracy theory below, however sandwiched between Little Mermaid remake, Transformers, and a new Pixar movie seems to be putting the movie in a position to not be as successful as it could be. And then releasing another Spider related movie, even if Live Action, a month later. I'm scratching my head here. I don't think this is too far fetched. We know they hadn't sign prior to NWH and Rothman mentioned they had to "ride this puppy and see what happens" https://comicbook.com/marvel/news/sony-pictures-ceo-speaks-out-on-tom-hollands-future-as-spider-man-after-no-way-home/ Putting my conspiracy theory hat on. After the success of NWH Sony or Marvel wanted to see how the standalone Morbius would do before signing the extension. With the Morbius bomba Sony decided to move stuff around for their SSU and Animation to guarantee hits next year as Marvel will probably ask for more than the current deal (i.e. 25/75 cofi/profit splitting). They still need to do the ensemble movie before this current deal runs out, but I would think that sometime this year we'll hear if and when they renewed and what the terms were. It can go lower, certainly. However we don't know if Kraven or Madame Webb will have Spider-Man which will help with the BO, but even with that it can still bomba.

As if this movie wasn't already a hard enough sell on its own Sony decided to release it one week after Indy 5 and one week before MI7. At least they'll have two very attractive young women in it to try to gather interest. Or maybe they'll be able to actually get Spider-Man in this movie. That would 100% get me to go watch this movie in theaters. Probably the only way I would go too.

I don't think it's a spoiler because it's in the 2nd trailer, but just in case With that said, the above can be explained in 25 mins as well.

Precisely. Corporations are like Mac from Sunny.

Not sure I agree with all these numbers, but if the trend of Marvel movies not releasing in China continue then I think this, Strange 2, and possibly Panther 2 miss the billie mark.

Got my tickets for May 5th at 3PM Central, but if this movie is as cameo heavy and hyped as it seems like it'll be then Twitter and Youtube might spoil me again since people will be openly discussing it from May 2nd. I still remember Youtube spoiling me on NWH Spoiler below in case you lived under a rock and haven't watched it

I'm not sure if the math is there for a profit on this off the BO alone. With VOD/DVD and finagling the accounting to get the capital coming from Netflix/Disney for their streaming deals they can say this made a profit, but the way I'm seeing it this is a bonafide bomba.

Same here. AMC sucks ass.

Are we expecting this to sell out in minutes or something? I wanna watch it opening weekend, but I don't want to rush to buy tickets

I can't prove a negative. The burden of proof is rather on proving that the new deal has taken place. Feige, Rothman, Pascal and others all wanted to resign and were enthused about it as of the timing of their interviews in NWH. Chapek and Yoshida can tell them to watch paint dry if they want. Bergman and Vinciquerra can also veto and supersede Feige at Disney and Rothman at Sony. They would actually be the ones to sign the deal not Feige and Rothman. I'm sure one of the trades will report something if and when that happens. Until then I'll assume things are still being worked on.

Don't think it changes much. It'd take 3-4 bombas in a row for them to consider changing anything. What I don't see is any of those movies making bank outside of possibly Venom 3. Kraven, Madame Webb....meh. I'm not convinced Quicksilver will make a good Kraven either, but we'll see. What I do think changes though is the imminent deal that - as far as we know - is not yet signed between Disney and Sony. IMO they were waiting on the outcome of Morbius to see what would happen before signing. Feige mentioned they are planning a college trilogy so if we go by other deals then it would be 3 solo + 3 ensemble (plus the other ensemble that is still to come from the 2019 deal). Because Disney+ is the most important thing at Disney right now and much more important than it was when the last deal was done I'm sure one of the most important things Disney and Marvel Studios want are all Live Action Television rights (currently mostly owned by Sony with Marvel having some veto rights).

I will not allow anyone to badmouth Lucasfilm today when they got a deal done to get Ron Gilbert to make another Monkey Island game that's coming out this year. Yes I know it's not a movie and technically separate, but today we should all give Lucasfilm a pass since a miracle has happened.

Sony is still predicting a ROIC of 6.8% on SPE for this FY, which includes NWH. The TV side also has higher margins than the movie side. SPE is the lowest ROIC division in the entity and the reason a lot of stockholders want to see them divest it, but Sony will be happy with any type of profit for this movie. The reason the budget is not lower than 75MM is because that is the lowest it has to be as per the contract. To your point they want a universe so they can try and bring that division up to the level of the others. They want their own MCU.

Now that we have almost 60 reviews in I feel it's a good time to ask this question again.

I'd be interested in a source for this if you have it.