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If I am not wrong, the biggest film ever in Brazil remains to be Titanic with 17.7 million admissions. And Jaws sold about 13 million. However, Os Dez Mandamentos is already the biggest local film.

Top 5 weekend (provisional) 1. The Huntsman Winter's war: €1.2m (NEW) 2. Kiki, el amor se hace: €0.9m (2nd) - €2.19m cume 3. London has fallen: €0.8m (NEW) 4. Batman v Superman: €0.6m (3rd) - €9.1m cume 5. Julieta: €0.6m (NEW - Almodóvar) "Snow White and the Huntsman" started with €3m in 2012, so the sequel drops a 60% relative to the first film. "Kiki, el amor se hace" increases a bit relative to OW (€0.87m). It has had great critics and WOM. BvS drops about 55%. We will see if it reaches €10m. Deadpool can beat it here too. "Julieta", the new Almodóvar film, gets the worst opening among his latest titles. It is the first time that an Almodóvar film is not the biggest Spanish film during the opening weekend (Kiki wins). Since he is involved in "Panama papers", he has not promoted the film.

1. Casablanca (1942) 2. The Godfather I (1972) 3. The Fellowship of the Ring (2001) 4. The Apartment (1960) 5. A night at the opera (1935) 6. Fantasia (1940) 7. The Godfather II (1974) 8. Rear Window (1954) 9. E.T. The Extraterrestrial (1982) 10. Spirited Away (2001) 11. The Two Towers (2002) 12. Taxi Driver (1976) 13. The Deer Hunter (1978) 14. Star Wars (1977) 15. The Return of the King (2003) 16. The Dark Knight (2008) 17. The Dirty Dozen (1967) 18. The Empire Strikes Back (1980) 19. WALL-E (2008) 20. 12 angry men (1957) 21. The Sting (1973) 22. Groundhog day (1993) 23. Big Fish (2003) 24. Casino (1995) 25. Alien (1979) 26. The Big Sleep (1946) 27. Die Hard (1988) 28. El Verdugo (1963) 29. To have and have not (1944) 30. Duck Soup (1933) 31. Psycho (1960) 32. Ed Wood (1994) 33. Se7en (1995) 34. My Fair Lady (1964) 35. North by Northwest (1959) 36. Young Frankenstein (1974) 37. Batman Begins (2005) 38. Annie Hall (1977) 39. The Killing (1956) 40. The quiet man (1952) 41. Tootsie (1982) 42. Citizen Kane (1941) 43. Blade Runner (1982) 44. Once upon a time in America (1984) 45. Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade (1989) 46. Inside Out (2015) 47. The General (1926) 48. The Birds (1963) 49. The wizard of Oz (1939) 50. Sunset Boulevard (1950) 51. The grapes of wrath (1940) 52. Bicycle thieves (1948) 53. L.A. Confidential (1997) 54. Bringing up baby (1938) 55. Rebecca (1940) 56. The hustler (1961) 57. To be or not to be (1942) 58. Touch of evil (1958) 59. Double indemnity (1944) 60. Goodfellas (1990) 61. Mary Poppins (1964) 62. As good as it gets (1997) 63. Beauty and the Beast (1991) 64. Jaws (1975) 65. The man who shot Liberty Balance (1962) 66. Rope (1948) 67. The Bourne Supremacy (2004) 68. The great escape (1963) 69. The shawshank redemption (1994) 70. To kill a mockingbird (1962) 71. Apocalypse Now (1979) 72. Plácido (1961) 73. Snow White and the Seven Dwarves (1937) 74. The third man (1949) 75. The searchers (1956) 76. Bridge on the river Kwai (1957) 77. City lights (1931) 78. Raiders of the lost ark (1981) 79. Los santos inocentes (1984) 80. Heat (1995) 81. The Innocent (1976) 82. The Great Dictator (1940) 83. Match point (2005) 84. Eyes wide shut (1999) 85. Back to the Future (1985) 86. Interstellar (2014) 87. JFK (1991) 88. American History X (1998) 89. Viridiana (1961) 90. Cinderella (1950) 91. Some like it hot (1959) 92. Ghostbusters (1984) 93. Paths of glory (1957) 94. Jackie Brown (1997) 95. Z (1969) 96. Life of Brian (1979) 97. Raising Arizona (1987) 98. The Untouchables (1987) 99. Pulp Fiction (1994) 100. United 93 (2006)

You can try The Deer Hunter, Casablanca, The Apartment, Heat, Bridge on the River Kwai, The dirty dozen, Casino, Apocalypse Now, The killing, L.A. Confidential, Tootsie, The conversation, The sting, Sunset Boulevard, Rear window, Psycho, Someone flew over the cuckoo's nest, Seven, American History X, To kill a mockingbird, Viridiana, Scarlet Street, El verdugo, A night at the opera, Fantasia, The bicycle thief... I will post my list later. I need to work on it.

We should not compare Zootopia in China with Frozen in Japan. Those are very different markets. But IMHO Zootopia should have done maybe $500m in China to match what Frozen did in Japan. Zootopia's Chinese run is impressive? sure, A LOT. As impressive as Frozen in Japan? NO WAY. Just Titanic everywhere is a comparable run to Frozen in Japan.

OW 640m Total 1,550m

I find it quite logical. BvS has done $6.9m DOM between Tue and Wed. $16m OS would mean a 30% DOM / 70% OS ratio for those 2 days. In fact, it would mean an overperformance OS relative to DOM since the current ratio is 37/63.

I think the 1968 figure is the total cume counting every release. If those figures were true, The Jungle Book would be the most attended film ever, and that is not true. http://www.jpbox-office.com/fichfilm.php?id=9116&affich=france Anyway, Jungle Book was gigantic not only in France, but in many European countries.

Well, Disney Animation will remain to be the only one doing it with original films, not with sequels

April 1-3 Top 20 (bold titles are local films) 1. Batman v Superman: €8,168,817 (2nd) #1 2. Kiki, el amor se hace: €874,059 (NEW) 3. Altamira: €444,107 (NEW) 4. Kung Fu Panda 3: €5,412,124 (4th) #2 5. Zootopia: €12,529,150 (8th) #3 6. Cien años de perdón: €6,096,417 (5th) #4 7. Divergent: Allegiant: €4,346,822 (4th) #5 8. El pregón: €1,682,692 (3rd) #6 9. Norm of the North: €153,994 (NEW) 10. My big fat Greek weddnig 2: €888,035 (2nd) #7 11. Sisters: €134,103 (NEW) 12. Marguerite: €123,457 (NEW) 13. Risen: €621,989 (2nd) #8 14. The dressmaker: €815,421 (3rd) #11 15. Pride and prejudice and zombies: €98,412 (NEW) 16. 10 Cloverfield Lane: €991,105 (3rd) #9 17. The revenant: €14,365,861 (9th) #10 18. Kamakura Diary: €213,494 (2nd) #16 19. The Gift: €763,735 (3rd) #13 20. Spotlight: €3,848,680 (10th) #15

So, adding the 3 big European markets (UK, France and Germany), Jungle Book sold about 60 million admissions... How much would be that today, about $600m? it is unbelievable. Of course, this adaptation will not sell that amount, but you are very right saying this should be enormous in Europe. The billion talk is not that crazy.

I have serious doubts with that $64m OS figure of the original film. The film was absurdly gigantic in some European countries and I think the official OS figure should be quite higher than what BOM reports. In Germany it is the most attended film ever BY FAR. It sold 27 million admissions in 5 releases (for the record, Titanic, which ranks second, sold 18 million admissions). Applying average ticket price of each year we have this: 1968: 7.6m admissions * €1.63 = €12.4m 1979: 9.1m * €3.05 = €27.76m 1987: 5.47m * €3.86 = €21.1m 1993: 4.17m * €4.58 = €19.1m 2000: 1.0m * €5.41 = €5.41m Just applying average ticket price of each year, not by inflation, those amounts sum €85.77m just in Germany. Even considering that German Mark had half value in 1968 relative to Dollar than now, I have the feeling that the $64m figure just applies to the original release. In France we have a similar case. The Jungle Book ranks #9 in all time admissions list, on par to Avatar, for example, with 14 million admissions. In Spain, it is not a record film, but with 3.8 million admissions registered is on par, for example, to Up, Inside Out or Toy Story 3.

Yes, a few dollars... about 300 million. I think I have it on my pocket right now.

Yes, Japan did horrible with Hobbit . With a more decent gross there the whole trilogy could have done 1 billion each. Relative to China and FB, this should go well over $100m. DH2 already did $60m in 2011 and looking at figures that LOTR-HP did in 2001-2003 there, I think both franchises were equally liked, more or less. Considering that Hobbit 3 already did $120m last year and with 5 years inflation since DH2, it could reach $150m, maybe more.

Take a look at the China thread. Experts have been talking there about 1.2-1.3 billion Yuan for Apocalypse which means, with current exchange rate, 185-200 million dollars. Days of the Future Past already did $120m 2 years ago. With the incredible expansion of the market, $200m is not as difficult as it seems.

Apocalypse should gross over $200m just in China... Anyway, and no matters what happens. Deadpool making something close to 800 WITHOUT CHINA is just incredible

Some of us thought the same about the Hobbit... Of course, Harry Potter was incredibly constant in gross, but not in admissions. It is not the same to make 800-900 in 2001-2002 than in 2010. DH2 exploded and it is maybe the 3rd-4th most attended of the series (behind HP1 and HP2 for sure, and maybe on par to HP4). But the same universe is not the same story. I thought like you with Hobbit, but I commited the mistake. IMHO, similar amount to HP1-HP7 (excepting Azakaban) is the most likely prediction, both DOM and OS. (250-275 / 600s-700). Chance for billion? sure. Locked? not even close. Of course, I can be wrong, but right now, and unless it becomes a masterpiece, I can not see more.

Top 5 Weekend (Friday-Sunday): 1. Batman v Superman: €2.8m 2. Kung Fu Panda 3: €0.8m 3. Zootopia: €0.65m 4. Cien años de perdón: €0.62m 5. Divergent: Allegiant: €0.44m Source: Rentrak

In fact, he initially predicted 668 for BvS: http://forums.boxofficetheory.com/topic/20520-predict-the-worldwide-top-20-of-2016/?do=findComment&comment=2266030

So, it is more similar to Silmarillion than to Hobbit?

March 25-27 Top 20 (bold titles are local films) 1. Batman v Superman: €5,453,912 (NEW) 5-day opening 2. Kung Fu Panda 3: €4,583,563 (3rd) - Previous rank: #1 3. Zootopia: €11,856,368 (7th) - #4 4. Cien años de perdón: €5,535,098 (4th) - #3 5. Divergent: Allegiant: €3,883,177 (3nd) - #2 6. El pregón: €1,322,872 (2nd) - #5 7. My big fat Greek wedding 2: €560,731 (NEW) 8. Risen: €367,691 (NEW) 9. 10 Cloverfield Lane: €801,892 (2nd) - #6 10. The revenant: €14,212,802 (8th) - #9 11. The dressmaker: €583,564 (2nd) - #11 12. The brothers Grimsby: €769,686 (2nd) - #7 13. The Gift: €606,382 (2nd) - #10 14. Deadpool: €10,003,565 (6th) - #8 15. Spotlight: €3,730,254 (9th) - #12 16. Kamakura Diary: €95,742 (NEW) 17. Room: €1,731,218 (5th) - #13 18. Mustang: €531,438 (3rd) - #14 19. Brooklyn: €1,576,600 (5th) - #15 20. Nous trois ou rien: €64,578 (NEW) Deadpool reaches €10m. In last 8 years just both Avengers (16 and 12 million) and both TDKs (12 and 11) have reached that amount in SH genre (we could include Hancock, which did 16, and BvS, which will reach it in few days). Previous to those films we have to look at Spider-man 3 (18) to see higher numbers for a SH film. A really great performance.

I feel the same "problems" for this than Hobbit. I have not read the book, but I know that is basically quite similar than the LOTR prequel: same universe, 70 years before Harry Potter action, different characters (I do not know if there is some common characters), although same director... It can reach the billion, but it will be quite hard, since I do not see it making tons of money DOM (probably around 250-275). However, I can see it doing 600-700 OS, what would already be great for a spin-off.

Bigger drop? Do you want it to fail?

It is a better drop than F7 last year. IMO, it is an average/good number.

There have not been a bigger film than Titanic. Not even close. And I do not think we will not see something like that never... it was a beast EVERYWHERE. You mention China in 1998. Titanic did $44m in China in 1998!!!