REVISED Weekend Estimates 6/14--6/16: Man of Steel OW $116.7M($128.7M including WM)

[VGPOP]

Counting already $9 million from midnight showings and after, how much realistically could we be looking if there was not Walmart purschased program here?

 

$21 MILLION?

$20 MILLION?

$18 MILLION?

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[Shawn Robbins]

Why exactly did BOM kick everyone out of their forums? 

 

Basically, the site crashed and because it was so antiquated they couldn't recover the databases holding the forums.

 

That's the SUPPOSED story. They claim it was because IMDb were planning to phase out the forums and derby for awhile, but as someone who Mod-ed there -- we never heard a peep about any such plan.

 

So either they lied to us or they're jerks. Personally, I'm suspect the site was hacked and they had cover their butts with that story.

[ExcelFTW]

Counting already $9 million from midnight showings and after, how much realistically could we be looking if there was not Walmart purschased program here?

 

16 to 17.

[Neo]

BOM considers the 7PM Walmart thing to be separate showings. This is the first time this kind of thing has happened.

BOM has previews box office for movies, not the first time.

[PDC1987]

I for one *like* that the $12 million is being separated. That's how it should be.

[VGPOP]

16 to 17.

and that number to you would what?

 

expected? shocked? amazed? dissapointed?

[Heretic]

Sorry we won't see another deal like that. Walmart ended up giving tickets away.People have this idea Walmart paid WB 12M. I want to know where are the sources to prove this.Man of Steel Walmart PreviewsIt still made 9m in just midnight shows. And Walmart did sell some tickets.Especially knowing they didn't come close to selling the million they purchased and many say WalMart screenings were barely half full. I don't like this...notfabio was the source. Walmart didn't pay WB.lol, let it go. It's going to be all be anecdotes. WB or Walmart aren't going to have a press release on this subject.I don't care how you slice it. In your mind, just throw away half of the Walmart gross.Again. Where is your source that Walmart didn't do good in ticket sales?Well it will die because Walmart got stuck with a bunch of unsold tickets. This was told by a poster here who is a manager at Walmart.No, tickets are purchased at your local Walmart actuallyA poster here is a Walmart manager.Right the consumers purchased the tickets from Walmart.  Walmart had to get he tickets from somewhere.So a Walmart manager knows that all of Walmart didn't do well with MoS tickets.Walmart was still hawking tickets on twitter yesterday. They didn't sell out of them.The bottom line nobody on this site has access to Walmart Financial records.Someone on this forum posted "Walmart paid WB 12M" without any sources and everyone believed it.I'm thinking less than $100M, non including the WalMart $12M.Walmart executives are st00pid ?I'm assuming that's the price WM pay WB up front. Cause at my local WM, 2D is 8 dollars while 3D is 10 dollars. Ticket prices must vary across the country then for WM to make any profit off of them.Walmart was still selling tickets yesterday.Neither Walmart nor WB would want that getting out, and this isn't the type of story where it'd be worth pissing off a major studio to get it out thereWe'll know whether this type of marketing works in the future if Walmart does it again. If Walmart bled on this deal, then you won't see them investing in films anymore... or not as much. i'm guessing the next 12 are made up of meltdowns, excuses, and walmart I think this Wal-Mart thing is a conspiracy that goes to the very top of the Obama administration.This Walmart topic is becoming very tedious, just move on people.This thread is just a free pub for Walmart.So Walmart had 1M tickets to sell. If Walmart sold every ticket it would be about....?So even if we would just ignore those Walmart Shows, 9m is an amazing midnight number.I don't know who and how we put Wallmart into the discussion. The main post in this thread was from Nikki and she didn't mention Wallmart.http://i.i.com.com/cnwk.1d/i/tim/2013/01/16/ctm_0116_WALMART_640x480.jpgMake no mistake, the Walmart gross is WB's, no doubt about that.Well damn.. this thread turned out more boring than I expected. Its all about fucking Walmart.Walmart is always an awful topic of conversation.Yes! Midnight was only $9M sans Walmart, it's fairly reasonable!http://i.imgur.com/euebGO6.jpgSo basically hobbit numbers for midnight exclusive of the 12M Walmart?The Walmart previews are skewing the results, this could still make under 40M OD.I dont think their official site has the fucking word Walmart as much as this thread.I can't even believe I am reading people SUBTRACTING the Walmart sales from gross on this movie? Walmart comes to WB and tells them "we're going to give you $12 million dollars (chump change for this MULTI-BILLION dollar company) worth of tickets if you let us sell advance tickets for 7pm showings day before it opens". People in here are ASSUMMING ALL SHOWINGS FROM EVERY SINGLE ONE WALMART ADVANCE SCREENING were empty. Just as walmart paid $12 million in fake money and no single human being went to see its advance screening....Counting up all the occurences of the world "Walmart" in this thread.I'm thinking that Friday could increase sans Midnights and WalmartWB should have sell 208M worth of tickets to that Mr Walmart just to beat Avengers OW no matter if Mr Walmart sold those tickets to real people.You're completely ridiculous guys, you seriously want to remove these 12m from Walmart?Walmart is to this thread as the word fuck is to Casino"No! No! No more Walmart talk!"Walmartin right motherwalmarter!Because the Wal-Mart shows occured exclusively on Thursday, Box Office Mojo will be recording those grosses on that day.I would say Walmart probably lost in 'tickets purchased' at least 5 or 6 million dollars ... a drop in the bucket in the grand scheme of things.That 12M from Walmart might be important if MOS needs it to make 100M OW. Number of the occurences of the word Walmart (or other variations): 170 And they'll probably be more and more crys of Walmart in the future. Make that 172. I used the word twice now.

And the most pointless post in BOF history goes to...

[Mojoguy]

and that number to you would what?

 

expected? shocked? amazed? dissapointed?

Aren't fans already over the moon at that 9M midnight numbers?

[Biggestgeekever]

Think of it this way: Man of Steel will have 8 days at #1 instead of 7.

 

Isn't that nice!?

[druv10]

Pretty stupid for BOM to do this.  I would have certainly gone to midnight showing, if not for 7 PM.

[Eastwood47]

I don't agree the general idea of calling 7pm Thu shows part of Friday either, but, we have to maintain some sort of standard while we're keeping perspective on things. This back and forth thing isn't a reliable trend. If MoS shows are excluded from Friday, so should be every other movie that has opened at 7pm or later this year. That includes TITE on Wednesday.

 

Of course, the studios won't be convinced of that... but that's a hopeless battle.

 

Bummer. I think that sort of caters to the mindgames studios play to suggest demand. But I do completely understand your point as indicated. They will scew it as they wish.

[Dementeleus]

It's the studio's game and we're all just playing along.

[Mojoguy]

I don't agree the general idea of calling 7pm Thu shows part of Friday either, but, we have to maintain some sort of standard while we're keeping perspective on things. This back and forth thing isn't a reliable trend. If MoS shows are excluded from Friday, so should be every other movie that has opened at 7pm or later this year. That includes TITE on Wednesday.

 

Of course, the studios won't be convinced of that... but that's a hopeless battle.

BOM is saying MOS Walmart showings are considered separate. They wouldn't be doing this in the first place if Warners had sold those 7PM tickets normally like everyone else.

[Dementeleus]

Weird, I guess my post way back when got eaten: I pointed out that PASSION OF THE CHRIST had plenty of shows that were booked by churches, who then distributed tickets to their congregations. So, where was all the consternation then?*

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

*(answer: there was't any)

[ecstasy]

I thought Box Office Mojo always separated 7 pm  previews. Didnt they do that for Trek 2

[Dementeleus]

I thought Box Office Mojo always separated 7 pm  previews. Didnt they do that for Trek 2

 

They're not consistent. Sometimes they separate pre-10pm shows, sometimes they don't.

[#ED]

Regardless if MoS hits 100M only with the 12M, it would be a success.

[Mojoguy]

Weird, I guess my post way back when got eaten: I pointed out that PASSION OF THE CHRIST had plenty of shows that were booked by churches, who then distributed tickets to their congregations. So, where was all the consternation then?*

But there is no way to measure how many extra tickets were sold/bought by those church people.

 

Warners and Walmart came out and told everyone how much both showings made. They made it super easy for BOM to separate both on their charts.

[Eastwood47]

Weird, I guess my post way back when got eaten: I pointed out that PASSION OF THE CHRIST had plenty of shows that were booked by churches, who then distributed tickets to their congregations. So, where was all the consternation then?*

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

*(answer: there was't any)

 

That's a good point. A purchase is a purchase, whether it's a church or a company. I purchased IMAX tickets for Saturday. If I don't make it, they should still count. The fact that Walmart tried to spin a profit on theirs doesn't change that rule. Okay, from that perspective, I feel better about it. It makes sense. It all counts.