baumer Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 Baumer, you have Michael Bay in your top 10. You're really not in a position to be throwing stones here.... Also, you listed John Carpenter twice. The guy is admittedly awesome, but you may want to fix that. Michael Bay has a body of work that goes back 20 years. I am in a much better position to have that opinion since he at least has a resume that consists of more than 2 films. And I'm still fixing my list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rukaio101 Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 To be on a list of the best of all time, shouldn't body of work be considered? Body of work is being considered. Moon and Source Code is Duncan Jones's body of work. Johnny considers that a strong enough body work to put Jones on a list of best directors. I mean, I thought A Bronx Tale was one of the best films of 1993 but I wouldn't consider DeNiro one of the best of all time. Okay. Good for you. Michael Bay has a body of work that goes back 20 years. I am in a much better position to have that opinion since he at least has a resume that consists of more than 2 films. A crap body of work is still a crap body of work no matter how many years it goes back. A good body of work consisting of two films is still a good body of work. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baumer Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 Body of work is being considered. Moon and Source Code is Duncan Jones's body of work. Johnny considers that a strong enough body work to put Jones on a list of best directors. Okay. Good for you. A crap body of work is still a crap body of work no matter how many years it goes back. A good body of work consisting of two films is still a good body of work. Most Bay films are better than most directors. Armageddon, The Rock, Bad Boys, Transformers puts him at the top of my list. Not my problem if you disagree with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rukaio101 Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 Most Bay films are better than most directors. Armageddon, The Rock, Bad Boys, Transformers puts him at the top of my list. Not my problem if you disagree with that. And obviously Johnny considers all of Jones's films to be better than most directors. Not his problem if you disagree with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baumer Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 And obviously Johnny considers all of Jones's films to be better than most directors. Not his problem if you disagree with that. What films? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rukaio101 Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 What films? Source Code and Moon. They were stated literally just a page ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baumer Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 Source Code and Moon. They were stated literally just a page ago. Exactly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peludo Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 100? it seems a lot, but I will try to do it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squaremaster316 Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 so i've decided for any list with less than 11 directors they all get just 1 point. so squaremaster, is this your final list? Updated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rukaio101 Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 Exactly. I can only assume you're trying to imply that Source Code and Moon aren't real films. Which is already stupid on many levels without me having to point it out. Not least of which because you're simultaneously defending Michael Bay. I struggle to think of a single definition of the word 'film' where Source Code and Moon don't fit yet Michael Bay's filmography does. Not even 'steaming pile of crap', because I actually rather liked the Rock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#ED Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 (edited) MY OFFICIAL LIST 1. Christopher Nolan 2. Quentin Tarantino 3. Martin Scorsese 4. J.J. Abrams 5. Ridley Scott 6. James Cameron 7. The Coens 8. Sam Mendes 9. George Lucas 10. Francis Ford Coppola 11. Alfred Hitchcock 12. Brian De Palma 13. Wes Craven 14. Clint Eastwood 15. Roman Polanksi 16. Steven Spielberg 17. Brad Bird 18. Alfonso Cuaron 19. John Carpenter 20. Tim Burton 21.Sam Mendes 22. Peter Jackson 23. Guillermo del Toro 24. Wes Anderson 25. Spike Lee 26. The Wachowskis 27. Kathryn Bigelow 28. Sam Raimi 29. John Woo 30. David O. Russell Edited January 7, 2014 by #ED 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baumer Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 I can only assume you're trying to imply that Source Code and Moon aren't real films. Which is already stupid on many levels without me having to point it out. Not least of which because you're simultaneously defending Michael Bay. I struggle to think of a single definition of the word 'film' where Source Code and Moon don't fit yet Michael Bay's filmography does. Not even 'steaming pile of crap', because I actually rather liked the Rock. No, I'm not saying that at all. I'm saying that to be on an all time list above some of the greats, you should have more than 2 films under your belt. Jones may well be one of the greatest directors of all time, but I don't think he's proven it yet. That's all. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rukaio101 Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 No, I'm not saying that at all. I'm saying that to be on an all time list above some of the greats, you should have more than 2 films under your belt. Jones may well be one of the greatest directors of all time, but I don't think he's proven it yet. That's all. I refer you to my Harper Lee post. If one director made 10 films all of which were consider good not great and another director made 2 films which were considered absolute masterpieces, who would you consider the better director? There are reasonable arguments for both, so you can't just claim the latter to automatically be void as a great director. If the same guy had directed Casablanca and 12 Angry Men, I'd consider him one of the greatest directors of all time even if those two were the only films he directed. To compare it to a different medium, are you saying that someone like Harper Lee (who wrote To Kill a Mockingbird) doesn't deserve to be on a list of Greatest Writers simply because that's the only book she ever wrote? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4815162342 Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 To be on a list of the best of all time, shouldn't body of work be considered? I mean, I thought A Bronx Tale was one of the best films of 1993 but I wouldn't consider DeNiro one of the best of all time.Have you seen The Good Shepherd?De Niro kills it. A slow burn but one of the best of 2006. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Stingray Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 It would be pretty funny if Nolan actually won this. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jessie Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 I can only assume you're trying to imply that Source Code and Moon aren't real films. Which is already stupid on many levels without me having to point it out. Not least of which because you're simultaneously defending Michael Bay. I struggle to think of a single definition of the word 'film' where Source Code and Moon don't fit yet Michael Bay's filmography does. Not even 'steaming pile of crap', because I actually rather liked the Rock. Michael Bay can do more with a 200m budget than most directors could do with 400m, that makes him a good director. So what if the scripts suck, a great script doesn't make a director any better or worse. Duncan Jones is still a baby in the film making world, hopefully his day will come but as of now, Source Code and Moon are just appetizers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jessie Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 Michael Bay has a body of work that goes back 20 years. I am in a much better position to have that opinion since he at least has a resume that consists of more than 2 films. And I'm still fixing my list. Lets not forget the that Spielberg, Cameron and even Nolan have said on numerous occasions how they are huge Bay fans and even Cameron has admitted to studying the way he films his action scenes in the hope of learning a thing or 2. Even the great directors of our time agree with you Baumer 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baumer Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 Yes thanks Jessie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Letsuseournoggin Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 That guy is getting a lot of shit for his Duncan Jones inclusion over some of the greats. Leave him be. If Baumer can put Bay so far up, let that guy put what's his name up there too. They may both be wrong, but they are entitled to it. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Stingray Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 Mine. 1. Scorsese 2. Spielberg 3. Tarantino 4. James Cameron 5. David Fincher 6. Stanley Kubrick 7. Coen brothers 8. Francis Ford Coppola 9. Sergio Leone 10. David Lynch 11. Ridley Scott 12. John Carpenter 13. Brian De Palma 14. Michael Mann 15. Oliver Stone 16. Christopher Nolan 17. Paul Verhoeven 18. Paul Thomas Anderson 19. Terrence Malick 20. Spike Lee 21. Darren Aronofsky 22. Danny Boyle 23. Roman Polanski 24. Alexander Payne 25. Ang Lee 26. Robert Zemeckis 27. Steven Soderbergh 28. Alfonso Cuaron 29. Sam Mendes 30. John Woo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
