baumer Posted September 12, 2012 Share Posted September 12, 2012 Well, it was not 14 mill. Expendables did a lot more than that. It was at 37 mill minus the 3 days from China. So perhaps about 28 or so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fake Posted September 12, 2012 Author Share Posted September 12, 2012 I think the weekend was 42m (25m from China, 15m from holdovers, 2m+ from other openers). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baumer Posted September 12, 2012 Share Posted September 12, 2012 I think the weekend was 42m (25m from China, 15m from holdovers, 2m+ from other openers).But that's a 6 day for China, not 3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCS Posted September 12, 2012 Share Posted September 12, 2012 But that's a 6 day for China, not 3.You can include the 3 days of previews into the OW for China like the UK does. Makes one big OW of $25M. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RthDeadWov Posted September 13, 2012 Share Posted September 13, 2012 (edited) That UK gross is wrong or TDKR. It was at $86.5m last Sunday... Not really.BOM grosses have been higher than 'official' figures because exchange rates have improved recently.TDKR was officially at $82.1m week before last. Then it made 2m GBP for Mon-Sun period. That means it should officially have been at $85.3m after last weekend. Well, it can't be at $86.5m, because that's around £54m, and TDKR was already at £54.5m last Sunday. That means it's over £55m now, which is at least $88m. Well TDKR is on £55.3M after last weekend in the UK which is $88.5M so let us go with that figure! from previous post a note about currency conversion-Post 6-Aug-12Without going to far into it, its a total mishmash and yes I haven't looked at it closly in a while but when I was BOM coversions were bad.Internally studios/distributors generally convert based on a intercompany weighted average exchange rate for each financial month(so if a film plays jul/aug/sep it will have calculations based on three rates, these rates are also adjusted a month later due to initially they are done in advance), when they give all the INTL numbers in $us its converted from $lc using the intercompany rate, now various sites may convert those numbers in $us to $lc but it may not match the $lc depending on how they chose to do it (some use the latest daily rate even on cume figures)Now when each territory releases they weekend/week official top 10/20/50 etc its released in $lc from the various territories, then sites convert to $us(once again varies)So if hyperthetically you looked at say TDKR in UK and say you look at what BOM has under its INTL total and you look at what they have it listed as in GBP then you go to say the weekend actuals report which is given in GBP(there maybe some territories where the data is given as $us) and look at TDKR that total may/may not match what say BOM or others have converted from $us or converted to $us When Distributors release numbers in $us its done on monthly intercompany rates not weekend/dailyHere are a few numbers (the below list is based on sunday release estimates & distributors intercompany rates), 1st figure is Local , Us in bracketsTDKRUK 55.4m (86.5m )AUS 42m (43.4m)Korea 47.6b (41.6m)Germany 26.6m (32.6m)Mexico 416.1m (31m)TA -just $usChina 87.6mUK 83.3mBrazil 66.6mMexico 62.2mAustralia 54.4mKorea 52.4mRussia 42.8mFrance 42mJapan 39.8mGermany 31.9mTR just $usUK 6.4mAustralia 5.6m Edited September 13, 2012 by Rth 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baumer Posted September 13, 2012 Share Posted September 13, 2012 I don't understand half of what you just said there RTH, but I'm glad to see you post again.Can you give us some North American Wed numbers....lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCS Posted September 13, 2012 Share Posted September 13, 2012 (edited) These damn exchange rates play havoc with the OS box-office sometimes. Edited September 13, 2012 by JCS 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndustriousAngel Posted September 14, 2012 Share Posted September 14, 2012 Yep, that's the problem when counting Dollars as opposed to admissions.At the beginning of Augist "Intouchables" had made 83 million US-$ in Germany+Austria when we believe BOM. The following week, though it had made nearly 200k that week, it dropped to 81 million . Since it's a french film, the conversion rate didn't as a fact affect anybody; it's just statistical glitches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fake Posted September 14, 2012 Author Share Posted September 14, 2012 from previous post a note about currency conversion-Post 6-Aug-12Without going to far into it, its a total mishmash and yes I haven't looked at it closly in a while but when I was BOM coversions were bad.Internally studios/distributors generally convert based on a intercompany weighted average exchange rate for each financial month(so if a film plays jul/aug/sep it will have calculations based on three rates, these rates are also adjusted a month later due to initially they are done in advance), when they give all the INTL numbers in $us its converted from $lc using the intercompany rate, now various sites may convert those numbers in $us to $lc but it may not match the $lc depending on how they chose to do it (some use the latest daily rate even on cume figures)Now when each territory releases they weekend/week official top 10/20/50 etc its released in $lc from the various territories, then sites convert to $us(once again varies)So if hyperthetically you looked at say TDKR in UK and say you look at what BOM has under its INTL total and you look at what they have it listed as in GBP then you go to say the weekend actuals report which is given in GBP(there maybe some territories where the data is given as $us) and look at TDKR that total may/may not match what say BOM or others have converted from $us or converted to $usWhen Distributors release numbers in $us its done on monthly intercompany rates not weekend/dailyHere are a few numbers (the below list is based on sunday release estimates & distributors intercompany rates), 1st figure is Local , Us in bracketsTDKRUK 55.4m (86.5m )AUS 42m (43.4m)Korea 47.6b (41.6m)Germany 26.6m (32.6m)Mexico 416.1m (31m)TA -just $usChina 87.6mUK 83.3mBrazil 66.6mMexico 62.2mAustralia 54.4mKorea 52.4mRussia 42.8mFrance 42mJapan 39.8mGermany 31.9mTR just $usUK 6.4mAustralia 5.6mGreat informative post (though I had to concentrate so much my head hurts ).I thought the USD conversions were done on weekly basis and then cumulatively added. But I guess monthly rates also make sense. But what happens when a week has some part in one month and rest in another. Which month's rates are used for these type of calculations? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCS Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 (edited) Decided to try and email BOM to get them to update this useful section of the site:http://boxofficemojo.com/intl/weekend/Which had been abandoned since weekend ending June 3rd. And what do ya know, a few hours later... they seem to be adding all the missed OS weekends in (at least 6 weekends so far). Edited September 15, 2012 by JCS 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCS Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 (edited) Top 10 Overseas films of 2012: The Avengers $886,000,000 Ice Age: Continental Drift $676,608,583 The Dark Knight Rises $603,400,000 The Amazing Spider-Man $483,300,000 MIB 3 $445,005,922 Madagascar 3 $396,700,000 Titanic 3D $285,666,656 The Hunger Games $277,070,258 Brave $254,900,000 Prometheus $252,110,956 What else will crack this list? Discuss. Skyfall, The Hobbit and Twilight for sure. Ted possibly. Edited September 15, 2012 by JCS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tower Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 Maybe one of the November animations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCS Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 Maybe one of the November animations.Which one though?Rise of the Guardians? Wreck-It Ralph?There is also:Paranorman, Hotel Transylvania and Frankenweenie to release in many markets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Marvel Fanboy Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 Top 10 Overseas films of 2012: The Avengers $886,000,000 Ice Age: Continental Drift $676,608,583 The Dark Knight Rises $603,400,000 The Amazing Spider-Man $483,300,000 MIB 3 $445,005,922 Madagascar 3 $396,700,000 Titanic 3D $285,666,656 The Hunger Games $277,070,258 Brave $254,900,000 Prometheus $252,110,956 What else will crack this list? Discuss. Skyfall, The Hobbit and Twilight for sure. Ted possibly. Ted probably wont make it. Movies to make 2012 top 10 oversea: Skyall: locked BD2: locked TH1: locked Rise of the Guardians: why not ? RE5: very likely One of the Oscar contenders: very likely Wreck-It Ralph: possible Looper: possible Cloud Atlas: slime chance Paranorman/ Hotel Transylvania/ Frankenweenie: no chance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tower Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 Assuming Hobbit Skyfall and BD2 make it in easily, the fight should be for the 10th place between Titanic 3D, Hunger Games (Japan left to open), RE5, Wreck-It Ralph and Rise Of The Guardians. If I had to guess from those, I would say ROTG would do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Marvel Fanboy Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 Assuming Hobbit Skyfall and BD2 make it in easily, the fight should be for the 10th place between Titanic 3D, Hunger Games (Japan left to open), RE5, Wreck-It Ralph and Rise Of The Guardians. If I had to guess from those, I would say ROTG would do it.couldnt agree more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fake Posted September 15, 2012 Author Share Posted September 15, 2012 Ted should beat THG IMO or at least come close. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lab276 Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 Ted should beat THG IMO or at least come close.You expect another $100m? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fake Posted September 15, 2012 Author Share Posted September 15, 2012 You expect another $100m?Yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Marvel Fanboy Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 I always said Ted was heading to 300M OS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
