kswiston Posted September 16, 2012 Share Posted September 16, 2012 BOM seems to be tracking Expendables 2 OS properly.Up to $158.4M last weekend.That number got updated on Wednesday, it was quite a bit off last weekend. Not sure why Rentrak didn't bother to adjust their total after the studios reported actual grosses though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kayumanggi Posted September 16, 2012 Share Posted September 16, 2012 That's not even close for The Expendables. It's way wrong.Maybe because this has different distributors abroad. They might be having difficulty collecting all numbers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fake Posted September 17, 2012 Author Share Posted September 17, 2012 ^ That's it. And they are not required to report estimates on Sunday. So Rentrak can't add all the markets.After various distributors report actuals, then we get the correct number. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Marvel Fanboy Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 (edited) SD will have revised report/chart on Wed. Edited September 17, 2012 by firedeep Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCS Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 That number got updated on Wednesday, it was quite a bit off last weekend. Not sure why Rentrak didn't bother to adjust their total after the studios reported actual grosses though.That is because BOM gets the final actuals for the weekend on Wednesday from all the different distributors for Expendables 2. So that number is after last Sunday even if it was added on Wednesday.SD will have revised report/chart on Wed.Indeed, and BOM will have updated the OS total for Expendables 2 around the same time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ecstasy Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 That's not even close for The Expendables. It's way wrong.I just noticed they're only reporting for 25 territories. That's what it shows on their chart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCN Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 TOP 5 PROVISIONAL WEEKEND € [*]TAD, THE LAST EXPLORER 1,470,000 [*]TOTAL RECALL 940,000 (NEW) [*]POSSESSION 350,000 [*]STEP UP 280,000 [*]TED 280,000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Marvel Fanboy Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 TOP 5 PROVISIONAL WEEKEND € [*]TAD, THE LAST EXPLORER 1,470,000 [*]TOTAL RECALL 940,000 (NEW) [*]POSSESSION 350,000 [*]STEP UP 280,000 [*]TED 280,000 This is where ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lab276 Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 This is where ?Spain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tower Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 This is where ?Spain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Marvel Fanboy Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 Noted. Thanks guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJohn Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 Total Recall wasn't able to pass 1 million of Euros? Big fuck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCS Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 Total Recall and Bourne Legacy are big summer flops. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ecstasy Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 Total Recall and Bourne Legacy are big summer flops. Please wait until all the markets are open before calling Bourne a flop. Thank you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCS Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 Please wait until all the markets are open before calling Bourne a flop. :lol:Thank youTrue, but so far it has been very disappointing considering it is a Bourne film. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ecstasy Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 True, but so far it has been very disappointing considering it is a Bourne film.Bourne doesn't really make a lot of money overseas. They have all more than doubled their budget domestically though. It is disappointing that Legacy won't continue the tradition so the highlight of the run for me would be if it became a hit overseas.But that hasn't happened yet so far either. So I guess the highlight will be that it outgrossed Identity overseas. Identity, the movie that was released 10 years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peludo Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 Just a curiosity. I have just noticed that BOM says that Brave is 100th in worldwide list with 499.9 million. So we nearly have 100 movies over 500 million worldwide Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCS Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 (edited) Just a curiosity. I have just noticed that BOM says that Brave is 100th in worldwide list with 499.9 million. So we nearly have 100 movies over 500 million worldwideBrave is over $500M now as the DOM weekend needs to be added.Wow, 100 films with $500M+ WW! Edited September 18, 2012 by JCS 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RthDeadWov Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 Great informative post (though I had to concentrate so much my head hurts ).I thought the USD conversions were done on weekly basis and then cumulatively added. But I guess monthly rates also make sense. But what happens when a week has some part in one month and rest in another. Which month's rates are used for these type of calculations?Typically the rates change on the last or 2nd last sunday of the month and usually there is a month set in advance (if not the previous month is still used until the current/next is set, so if Sept and your now in Oct if there is no Oct intercompany Sept is used , when Oct is set it will weighted average recalc the past days, now if you want your brain to hurt I'll explain the calculation LOL)but even if say Oct intercompany is released early at the end of Oct the month of Oct may be revised because intially it was an estimate on expect exchange rate(the diff is usually not very much)when studios in US are planning in advance they also have to have a rate to convert from $lc(Local currency) to $us, so if there are say estimates done (BO, Adpub, Rentals etc)for a xmas release there has to be an intial assumtion of what to convert the $lc estimates to $us 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RthDeadWov Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 (edited) Rentrak updated its Worldwide Box Office page for the weekend:http://rentrak.com/section/corporate/press_room/weekly_top_10_charts.html#1 That's not even close for The Expendables. It's way wrong. Isn't Rentrak the source for all of our Overseas numbers (EDIT: At least on Sundays)? Perhaps the Expendables numbers are wrong for the same reason we never have them in the Sunday OS reports. They don't seem to track every distributor releasing the film overseas. Maybe because this has different distributors abroad. They might be having difficulty collecting all numbers. ^ That's it. And they are not required to report estimates on Sunday. So Rentrak can't add all the markets.After various distributors report actuals, then we get the correct number. I just noticed they're only reporting for 25 territories. That's what it shows on their chart.Few Things (and I'm writing this at 100 miles and hour)1-Rentrak reported grosses, at top line they have two types of numbersA) -BO from territories that they get dataB ) -Studio WW reported number So for example A might be $100m (made up of data from X of Y territories/markets),B might be $120m the figure say WB has given them as the WW or Intl total for a film where WB has it in every country or mostNow for the top line number B is used but if B is not known then A is used, until there is a number to populate B (if ever)-In the case of the Expendables theres is no B, currently, the Expendables 2 has been or is schedule to be released in at least 63 territories out of those there are over 50 distributors, in order to get a full Intl total you either have to try and get a figure from whomever is the producer of the film (Which could also be a studio) or through the various territories reported weekend top 10/20 films you add up the totals for the territitories you can get, I haven't added up all the territories BOM is currently showing a figure but if its less than the foreign total they have then they may have been able to get a figure (maybe rough) from producer/production company (believe its Millenium films) , for individual territories BOM is currently missing approximately 10 countries (no major ones but still)For example Universal as a major studio has the right to Exp2 in a few territories but UNI only cares about the grosses for Exp2 for those territories it has rights in, so if it releases a figure its only for those ones. Roadshow would only release and be interested in figures from Aus/NZ etc, but both companies would have sent figures to I believe Millenium filmsNo matter what the title is local distributors & major studios do what is commonly called a producer report where, lets say you take the Universal example above a producer report will be done for weekend GBO (maybe featuring daily)& cume to date along with a comment on how the film performed and sent to whoever the producer/production company is and/or who they actually bought the rights off. the producer/production Co. (maybe a main studio) is the one at the end of the day that should have the actual Worldwide number.So in another example, if say Sony had rights to a film in 50 countries but not the other 50, they would only be concerned and report on the 50 countries they are in, unless Sony was also the producer/production Co that susequently sold rights to other countries then in that case they would have a vested interested in and report on total WW BO. Edited September 19, 2012 by Rth 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
