Deep Wang Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 No, that would have been a just fantastic and true science fiction ending. Setting up for the bizzare premise in the sequel and our imaginations wild. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0078748/trivia It's in the trivia. He's discussed it in numerous interviews too. Ridley Scott reportedly said that originally he wanted a much darker ending. He planned on having the alien bite off Ripley's head in the escape shuttle, sit in her chair, and then start speaking with her voice in a message to Earth. Apparently, 20th Century Fox wasn't too pleased with such a dark ending. He also said Prometheus has the DNA of Alien but none of the subsequent alien films. Meaning that Queen isn't canon. Alien is a perfect intelligent viral organism. The apex of posthumanism. How in the hell would that have made sense with what we saw of the alien until then. All of a sudden he eats her head and can pilot a ship? He killed everyone else on board, so I guess he could make repairs to the ship along the way too? He killed enough that by the end I suppose he could have talked to her. Given her a monologue about how the time of humans is at an end? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dementeleus Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 Better than Aliens of course. That's a cameronfest that destroyed the original intention of the creature. Granted that's an enjoyable film, but completely lead the franchise into ruin. Woof. You're in the extreme, extreme minority for that one. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Gary Scott Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 I like Prometheus but it isn't anywhere close as good as alien or aliens 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishstick Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 I suddenly decided I love Lindelof! That`s becuase i`m bi-polar but he turned Lost into garbage and for that I love him so much! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Gary Scott Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 Lost was great one of my fav ever 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichWS Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 Woof. You're in the extreme, extreme minority for that one. Extreme, itty-bitty minority. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4815162342 Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 (edited) That original ending idea Scott had for Alien would have been god-awful and completely out of sync with the rest of the film. The Alien is nothing more than an incredibly capable predator, just like the shark from Jaws. It'd have been like if in Jurassic Park the velociraptors gained human intelligence after eating human brains, killed off everyone, and then sent an oral message in English to Costa Rica saying 'THIS IS OUR ISLAND!!!!!" Edited March 1, 2013 by 4815162342 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishstick Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 Lost was great one of my fav ever Lost would have been great w/o Jate and last season. I fuckin hate Jate. Worst TV couple ever, ZERO charisma and chemistry. Ugh. Skate 4Eva! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dementeleus Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 Lost would have been great w/o Jate and last season. I fuckin hate Jate. Worst TV couple ever, ZERO charisma and chemistry. Ugh. Skate 4Eva! Kate ended up being pretty weak overall, yeah (I'm pretty sure I read somewhere that the writers admitted it was a character they never were able to make work). Jack got annoying as the seasons progressed, but part of that is inherently you need the straight guy to be a doubter, and it's usually a thankless role. I thought how they wrapped his character up was great. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishstick Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 Kate ended up being pretty weak overall, yeah (I'm pretty sure I read somewhere that the writers admitted it was a character they never were able to make work). Jack got annoying as the seasons progressed, but part of that is inherently you need the straight guy to be a doubter, and it's usually a thankless role. I thought how they wrapped his character up was great. Jate was wrong because Skate had everything a couple should have - scorching chemistry and compatible perosnalities. But because Jate had neither and writers were bent on getting them together they started to mis-write Kate as a tri polar character who couldn`t decide whether she was a mom or a warrior or a fuck-up and who always looked like she was going to sneeze and was doing stupid things for no reason other than to be shoehorned in the story. Hence why the triangle got tiresome, Kate hated and Jack annoying as fuck. Sawyer is the only one that came out of the mess with dignity and that`s in large part thanks to Holloway being a superior actor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Gary Scott Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 I preferred Sawyer with Juliet actually. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dementeleus Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 Jate was wrong because Skate had everything a couple should have - scorching chemistry and compatible perosnalities. But because Jate had neither and writers were bent on getting them together they started to mis-write Kate as a tri polar character who couldn`t decide whether she was a mom or a warrior or a fuck-up and who always looked like she was going to sneeze and was doing stupid things for no reason other than to be shoehorned in the story. Hence why the triangle got tiresome, Kate hated and Jack annoying as fuck. Sawyer is the only one that came out of the mess with dignity and that`s in large part thanks to Holloway being a superior actor. But even early on, there were signs that the Kate character just wasn't working out. She was interesting for the first couple of episodes, but didn't work as a bad-ass fugitive (and her backstory ended up weak, though they sure tried hard to get it to work). With a cast that large, it's inevitable that some characters are going to fall flat -- and perhaps the mistake was trying to keep her a major character even though there wasn't enough interesting stuff there to warrant it (I know there are Jack/Kate peeps, I'm sure they wanted more, but whatever.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deep Wang Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 I wish I could make myself forget there was a 6th season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Gary Scott Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 The only time when I wanted to kill the writers when they killed off. Sun and Jin. Way to orphan your chilld and leave him with your awful father Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichWS Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 Is it too late for a redo on the fifth and sixth seasons? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dementeleus Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 Is it too late for a redo on the fifth and sixth seasons? Acceptance, my friend. There's gold in them there hills, you just gotta dig in the rubble to find it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichWS Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 I suppose it's time to... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoolioD1 Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 I'm one of those assholes who loved the last season of LOST. hahahahah, fuck y'all! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deep Wang Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 I'm one of those assholes who loved the last season of LOST. hahahahah, fuck y'all! I'm jealous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishstick Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 But even early on, there were signs that the Kate character just wasn't working out. She was interesting for the first couple of episodes, but didn't work as a bad-ass fugitive (and her backstory ended up weak, though they sure tried hard to get it to work). With a cast that large, it's inevitable that some characters are going to fall flat -- and perhaps the mistake was trying to keep her a major character even though there wasn't enough interesting stuff there to warrant it (I know there are Jack/Kate peeps, I'm sure they wanted more, but whatever.) She should have bene killed off early on, period, just like damn Lori Grimes in Walking Dead. two of the worst female characters on TV ever, not counting Smash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
