grey ghost Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 Sony wisely allowed ASM to open in the smaller superhero movie markets first and allow some awareness to spread before opening in the bigger European markets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lab276 Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 Sony wisely allowed ASM to open in the smaller superhero movie markets first and allow some awareness to spread before opening in the bigger European markets.Do you think a regular person would care if it was doing well in some other country? Probably not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullbuster Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 All the European markets together (not counting UK and Russia) still add a huge gross to the final tally of a movie, so they are important.I mean, they're not on the long run.Russia will pass France in 4 years to become the biggest European market (and will continue to grow fast after that), Brazil/Mexico will pass UK/Germany in 2 or 3 years,India will pass Germany soon too...and so on (and I even don't talk about the growth of smaller countries as Taiwan, Singapore...).European market is still big, but they won't decide of the fate of TASM,a success in Asia and Latin america will be a good omen for TASM 2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJohn Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 (edited) Yeah, they don't. Just look at MIB3. Very weak results in Europe. But Snow White and Prometheus already had better results there. If I am not mistaken, Prometheus flopped in Asia. A movie needs to be huge everywhere to do 650M+ results OS. Right now, TASM is a question mark. I still think it will do 800M OS, but that is not even closed to locked. Edited July 1, 2012 by CJohn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lab276 Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 Prometheus seemed like just the type of movie to do gangbusters in Asia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fake Posted July 1, 2012 Author Share Posted July 1, 2012 50M is decent. I would say it is well on track for 600m+ but 700m won't be easy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fake Posted July 1, 2012 Author Share Posted July 1, 2012 Prometheus seemed like just the type of movie to do gangbusters in Asia.Not even close. The rating alone made sure it won't break out in Asia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Marston Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 (edited) Yeah, they don't. Just look at MIB3. Very weak results in Europe. But Snow White and Prometheus already had better results there. If I am not mistaken, Prometheus flopped in Asia. A movie needs to be huge everywhere to do 650M+ results OS. Right now, TASM is a question mark. I still think it will do 800M OS, but that is not even closed to locked.Prometheus did not flop in Asia, it hasn't even opened in Japan or China yet, and MIB 3 has overall now made solid numbers in Europe, come on dude, you're being kind of overdramatic when you are saying it "flopped in this or that continent" Edited July 1, 2012 by Shriekofthevulture Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lab276 Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 Not even close. The rating alone made sure it won't break out in Asia.You mean the R rating? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullbuster Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 50M is decent. I would say it is well on track for 600m+ but 700m won't be easy.Too soon to judge, it's $50m without China, France, UK,Australia,Russia,Brazil and Mexico.And I wait 700M-750M, CJohn your 800M are a little bit optimistic.Personally I just want it to break $1B WW, with 700M OS that would be possible, with 750M OS that would be sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullbuster Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 Prometheus did not flop in Asia, it hasn't even opened in Japan or China yet, and MIB 3 has overall now made solid numbers in Europe, come on dude, you're being kind of overdramatic when you are saying it "flopped in this or that continent"I can't imagine a success in these countries, many hurdles to overcome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fake Posted July 1, 2012 Author Share Posted July 1, 2012 You mean the R rating?Yes. An 'A' rating in India for example means you immediately lose 75% of the audience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTX Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 Asian audiences love movies that are fun. Prometheus is not this kind of movie. It can still do well in Japan though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJohn Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 Prometheus did not flop in Asia, it hasn't even opened in Japan or China yet, and MIB 3 has overall now made solid numbers in Europe, come on dude, you're being kind of overdramatic when you are saying it "flopped in this or that continent"It made solid numbers in some of them, but flopped in most. I am talking in a general way.Prometheus won't do well in China or Japan... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Marston Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 It made solid numbers in some of them, but flopped in most. I am talking in a general way.Prometheus won't do well in China or Japan...which Asian countries did it flop in and what was it expected to make? also, Japan was the highest market for the previous Alien movies so Prometheus probably has a lot of potential there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTX Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 It made solid numbers in some of them, but flopped in most. I am talking in a general way.Prometheus won't do well in China or Japan...China and Japan are very different markets - it's common for films to make good money in China, but flop in Japan and vice versa. Japan can become the biggest OS market for Prometheus (possibly over 40M). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grey ghost Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 Yeah, they don't. Just look at MIB3. Very weak results in Europe. But Snow White and Prometheus already had better results there. If I am not mistaken, Prometheus flopped in Asia. A movie needs to be huge everywhere to do 650M+ results OS. Right now, TASM is a question mark. I still think it will do 800M OS, but that is not even closed to locked.650 m?With 300 m locked in Asia and 125 m locked on Latin America, ASM would need to fall short of 225 m in Europe to miss 650 m.That's not going to happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grey ghost Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 Too soon to judge, it's $50m without China, France, UK,Australia,Russia,Brazil and Mexico.And I wait 700M-750M, CJohn your 800M are a little bit optimistic.Personally I just want it to break $1B WW, with 700M OS that would be possible, with 750M OS that would be sure.Yeah I think a reasonable range for ASM is 725-775 m OS right now with conservative estimates in Europe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grey ghost Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 Do you think a regular person would care if it was doing well in some other country? Probably not.It could help in places like Europe where there's alot of cross communication and travel between countries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudolf Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 even SK is down from 16.4 -> 13.4 with 5 year inflation and 3D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
