theultimatebiu Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 It is not the same story. The Amazing Spider-Man is as much the same story from Raimi's Spider-Man as Batman Begins is the same story from Burton's Batman, regardless how you spin that fact. The WOM for this is strong because it's a film at gathered people so much passionated for this project that they pulled off one of the best superhero films yet, and pardon me Rudolf, but since The Avengers run I think you are clearly out of touch about what makes a good superhero film. The Amazing Spider-Man is living up to its title, and regardless how people try to spin it, it's an astounding success. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keysersoze123 Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 LOL.I think this reminds me of what jmovies said about ASM. Also, this film and Raimi's first are completely different. If someone really thinks this is the same as the first than they probably think Transformers 2 and Deathly Hallows 2 are the same film as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Marston Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 Fact is I was saying $1bn for TASM was not a possibility and many of you dismissed me as crazy. I saw $700M-$800M OS being tossed around as that was the absolute minimum it could do. TDKR will hurt it next weekend and the Olympics will kill it the weekend after. enough with this hyperbole, Kill it? Well it will kill the Dark Knight Rises then as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keysersoze123 Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 DarkShape at KJ reviewed it perfectly. Let me know which movie he is talking about. A science geek named Peter Parker is bitten by a radio-active spider. He acts out a bit and enjoys his powers, shirking his responsibilities -- he was supposed to help Uncle Ben work on the house but ignored it, for instance. Finally it comes to a head when he lets a thief robbing someone who screwed him over get away, resulting in the shooting death of his Uncle. From this the geek learns responsibility and decides to help people... while at the same time, a scientist has decided to administer the first human trial of a secretive formula on himself. This formula gives the scientist amazing strength but also drives him crazy, to the point he has in-depth conversations with himself. Peter and the scientist do battle with Peter's love interest in peril. At a certain point, when the odds look really bad, the people of New York all unite to help Peter. In the end Peter prevails -- but not without tragedy, as he is forced to make a final promise to a dying parent of someone he's close with. Finally we end with a sweeping shot of Spider-Man swinging through the city. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Marston Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 ASM is very similar to the original, there is no denying that, but to say they are EXACTLY the same is completely wrong 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZattMurdock Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 ASM is very similar to the original, there is no denying that, but to say they are EXACTLY the same is completely wrongI'll repeat: The haters saying that is "the same all over again" don't say the same thing about Batman Begins, which is as much as the same thing over again as The Amazing Spider-Man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keysersoze123 Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 I'll repeat: The haters saying that is "the same all over again" don't say the same thing about Batman Begins, which is as much as the same thing over again as The Amazing Spider-Man.So you think SM1 to ASM is equal to Batman 89 to Batman Begins. Hmmmmmmmmmmm. Can you tell me where those two movies are similar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Marston Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 yeah I am going to have to disagree Chris, Batman Begins was way different than Batman 89 than how ASM was to Spider-Man 2002. But it's all right, I am not bashing it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theultimatebiu Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 enough with this hyperbole, Kill it? Well it will kill the Dark Knight Rises then as wellYep TDKR will be hurt as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Marston Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 Yep TDKR will be hurt as well. yet, back in 2008, many movies still continued to make good money on the international circuit. Nothing is going to completely die Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theultimatebiu Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 (edited) I'll repeat: The haters saying that is "the same all over again" don't say the same thing about Batman Begins, which is as much as the same thing over again as The Amazing Spider-Man.BB and B89 are not even remotely similar.TASM and SM1 follow the same story path with the same character arcs.That's my problem with it....if they were going to reboot they should have taken a whole different approach with the movie.yet, back in 2008, many movies still continued to make good money on the international circuit. Nothing is going to completely dieThey will take a hit but obviously they will all level back out. TASM will probably be making around $20M OS by that time. Edited July 15, 2012 by theultimatebiu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keysersoze123 Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 I am skeptical about olympics being a huge factor outside UK. There may be specific events(like Opening/Closing Ceremony plus few niche events) that might have some impact but overall it should be business as usual. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZattMurdock Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 Iron Man (2008): Total Lifetime Grosses Domestic: $318,412,101 54.4% + Foreign: $266,762,121 45.6% = Worldwide: $585,174,222 The Incredible Hulk (2008): Total Lifetime Grosses Domestic: $134,806,913 51.2% + Foreign: $128,620,638 48.8% = Worldwide: $263,427,551 Iron Man 2 (2010): Total Lifetime Grosses Domestic: $312,433,331 50.1% + Foreign: $311,500,000 49.9% = Worldwide: $623,933,331 Thor (2011): Total Lifetime Grosses Domestic: $181,030,624 40.3% + Foreign: $268,295,994 59.7% = Worldwide: $449,326,618 Captain America: The First Avenger (2011): Total Lifetime Grosses Domestic: $176,654,505 47.9% + Foreign: $191,953,858 52.1% = Worldwide: $368,608,363 The Amazing Spider-Man (2012) Estimates of the SECOND weekend: Total Lifetime Grosses Domestic: $200,900,000 38.5% + Foreign: $320,500,000 61.5% = Worldwide: $521,400,000 Can we all agree that Spider-Man keeps the crown as Marvel's most profitable solo character? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tower Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 Certainly, but that was never really in doubt yet, but that might change post Avengers. it will be interesting to see how much the individual Avengers films make now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Accursed Arachnid!™ Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 I'll repeat: The haters saying that is "the same all over again" don't say the same thing about Batman Begins, which is as much as the same thing over again as The Amazing Spider-Man.C'mon...stop that. While I agree there are points in the film that I'm reminded of Batman89(His parents death, "I'm Batman!"), the overall plot is vastly different. I dare you to write up something like that guy at KJ did comparing BB and B89.Stop saying this, it's just not true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullbuster Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 I'm tired of this endless debate about reboots, about SM1 vs TASM...You're never tired to waste your time to talk about the same thing each day? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZattMurdock Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 (edited) C'mon...stop that. While I agree there are points in the film that I'm reminded of Batman89(His parents death, "I'm Batman!"), the overall plot is vastly different. I dare you to write up something like that guy at KJ did comparing BB and B89.Stop saying this, it's just not true.I'm having a hangover and my stomach is sick, but glancing over what the guy from KJ said, I easily can see that major plot points from both films are overlooked in order to achieve that, I could easily resume B89 and BB as "Billionaire Bruce Wayne watched his parents die in front of him and in that day, Batman was born. He trained to become the symbol that the criminals would fear and saved Gotham from the attack of a lunatic that wanted to destroy the city and used a gas attack schtick in order to achieve that".See, it's EASY to trace the parallels if someone is trying hard to do it, if you think that Peter Parker, a kid from Queens that got bitten by a genetic engineered spider was completely ready to become Spider-Man after his Uncle died after watching The Amazing Spider-Man, you've missed the point that TASM is about Peter's journey to become a man and get to know himself and... move forward. Here is a kid that starts a hunt to know his past but ends up finding himself in return. It's one of the best coming of age stories I've ever seen, superhero films or not. Uncle Ben's death is an element of what is shaping Peter to become the hero he is destined to be, but he's not there yet. And that's the beauty of the film, if you and others can't understand this at this point, I'd highly recommend it to watch it again. Besides, the seeds planted on this film could easily lead to one of the most epic stories ever told in any of this superhero films, something that just Nolan's Batman seems to have achieved so far. Edited July 15, 2012 by Chris O Donnell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grey ghost Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 (edited) Haters keep bringing up the re-worked origin hoping it will overshadow the fact that ASM is heading towards the second highest Spider-man gross WW despite being a divisive reboot.lol! Good luck with that. Edited July 15, 2012 by grey ghost 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fmpro Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 Haters keep bringing up the re-worked origin hoping it will overshadow the fact that ASM is heading towards the second highest Spider-man gross WW despite being a divisive reboot.lol! Good luck with that. B)And TASM2 will be the highest 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullbuster Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 What? Stop everything you are doing right fucking now and go see it!This week 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
