Oppenheimer | 2024 Academy Award Winner for Best Picture and Best Director

[ZattMurdock]

1 minute ago, AMC Theaters Enjoyer said:

I think JDW works as The Protagonist. Can't imagine someone delivering "I ordered my hot sauce an hour ago" better than him. His acting meshed well with Nolan's approach on the movie and the character.

 

I think the comparisons to Blackhat on that movie are apt too as it felt very Mann-esque. I feel shades of Miami Vice when I watch it too.

 

One last thing: Oppenheimer and Tenet show what a fantastic duo Nolan and editor Jennifer Lame are.

I agree with this. If anything Denzel’s kid hate is unwarranted. He is playing this sexy motherfucker suave Bondesque time cop. It’s so out there and it shouldn’t work but I think it does precisely because of his performance. I’d argue that I was much more impressed with Tenet than let’s say The Batman, and I loved that film. I have actually gone on record saying that I prefer Reeves take on Batman than Nolan’s, if anything because I find the world there more interesting. Tenet might be my favorite "spy movie" since Casino Royale.

[eeetooki]

18 minutes ago, keysersoze123 said:

Its amazing when you watch it again. Its intricate but I thought nolan unraveled the plot beautifully and i love the way it ended. JDW is the weak point. lacks charisma to pull the lead and Branaugh was not scary enough for the character. Rest of the cast was solid especially Battinson. Tenet needed someone charismatic like Chadwick(:-() or JDW's father. 

I am kind of convinced that if the lead is not JDW but someone more charismatic, people wouldn't shit on it as much. My friends and I joke about him getting the role because he's a nepo baby all the time. This is the first time I disliked Nolan's casting, aside from maybe Katie Holmes/Maggie Gyllenhaal. Rob Pattinson on the other hand, was fantastic. Stopped hating him after Tenet. Childhood me disliked him because he's not what I imagined Cedric Diggory to look like LOL

[eeetooki]

16 minutes ago, ringedmortality said:

 

Michael B. Jordan. You could replace JDW with Michael B. Jordan in everything and the outcome will always be better.

I could totally get onboard with that.

[ringedmortality]

2 minutes ago, eeetooki said:

maybe Katie Holmes/Maggie Gyllenhaal

 

I thought Gyllenhaal was fine. But Amy Adams should have been given the role from the beginning imo. She test screened with all the Batman already.

[eeetooki]

9 minutes ago, ringedmortality said:

 

I thought Gyllenhaal was fine. But Amy Adams should have been given the role from the beginning imo. She test screened with all the Batman already.

 

I don't hate them but their characters are just bland for me. I know people say Nolan's female characters are always underdeveloped and weak, but I have honestly liked every single one of the actresses he chose except for these two. But whether I liked them or not didn't matter as much to the plot, compared to The Protagonist, who's...ofcourse...the protagonist.

Edited July 26, 2023 by eeetooki

[WorkingonaName]

1. The Dark Knight

2. Dunkirk

3. The Prestige

4. Interstellar

5. Batman Begins

6. The Dark Knight Rises

7. inception

8. Memento

9. Insomnia 

10. Tenet

 

Seeing Oppy on Sunday. 

[hasanahmad]

44 minutes ago, Issac Newton said:

 

 

Nolan should make a tweet about Korean and Chinese perspective of the 100,000 who died amongst them in WW2 then I will await a tweet from her about it 

Edited July 26, 2023 by hasanahmad

[eeetooki]

6 minutes ago, hasanahmad said:

Nolan should make a tweet about Korean and Chinese perspective of the 100,000 who died amongst them in WW2 then I will await a tweet from her about it 

 

The fact that she's Japanese makes her 100000% biased. She can say Japan was willing to surrender all she wants but my ancestors couldn't take another second of the Japanese Imperial Army torture. If you grew up in a country that was invaded by Japan or have relatives who experienced it, you would never say the nukes weren't necessary. 

[WittyUsername]

That Twitter thread is flawed from the get-go, as not only does that person open by stating that she has no intention of seeing the film, but the film itself actually addresses many of her complaints. 

[ZattMurdock]

13 minutes ago, eeetooki said:

 

The fact that she's Japanese makes her 100000% biased. She can say Japan was willing to surrender all she wants but my ancestors couldn't take another second of the Japanese Imperial Army torture. If you grew up in a country that was invaded by Japan or have relatives who experienced it, you would never say the nukes weren't necessary. 

Look. I’m hyped as fuck for Oppenheimer. But if there is a group of people that have all the right in the world to be pissed about the film and it’s take it’s Japanese people and people from Japanese descent.

 

These takes coming from fans of Nolan isn’t a good look to Nolan fans, just respect it and let it go. Let’s not whatabout this shit.

[eeetooki]

1 minute ago, ZattMurdock said:

Look. I’m hyped as fuck for Oppenheimer. But if there is a group of people that have all the right in the world to be pissed about the film and it’s take it’s Japanese people and people from Japanese descent.

 

These takes coming from fans of Nolan isn’t a good look to Nolan fans, just respect it and let it go. Let’s not whatabout this shit.

 

I am not speaking as a Nolan fan, I am speaking as someone who's of Chinese descent and am so tired of the Japanese constantly avoiding and denying all the atrocities that the Japanese Imperial Army has done.

[hasanahmad]

16 hours ago, ZattMurdock said:

Look. I’m hyped as fuck for Oppenheimer. But if there is a group of people that have all the right in the world to be pissed about the film and it’s take it’s Japanese people and people from Japanese descent.

 

These takes coming from fans of Nolan isn’t a good look to Nolan fans, just respect it and let it go. Let’s not whatabout this shit.

 

I read Nolan became a big fan of her after he watched Hereditary and seems to want her to be his editor in every film 

 

 

 

[eeetooki]

16 hours ago, hasanahmad said:

 

 

 

I read Nolan became a big fan of her after he watched Hereditary and seems to want her to be his editor in every film 

 

 

 

 

As someone who hates horror movie, I kind of want Nolan to do a horror movie next, but I am not sure how I will watch it. Everytime I get dragged by my friends to see a horror movie, I spend 70% of the movie in their arms covering my face.

[ZattMurdock]

Just now, eeetooki said:

 

I am not speaking as a Nolan fan, I am speaking as someone who's of Chinese descent and am so tired of the Japanese constantly avoiding and denying all the atrocities that the Japanese Imperial Army has done.

I cannot put myself on your shoes, but I empathize with the sentiment. But what they went through wasn’t easy either, one can understand why they’d be pissed with this film, and at same time be pissed at them for the atrocities they also committed. One wrong doesn’t make another wrong right. It’s not about the film’s message and it’s completely understandable how you feel, but at same time I don’t think questioning how Japanese people / people from Japanese descent feel about nuclear bombs will be productive. They have the right to be mad at that aspect.

[Issac Newton]

The evidence now available from opened Japanese and Soviet archives suggests that the nuclear bombing was not decisive in persuading Japan to surrender. The Emperor and the war leadership were told about the atomic bombing but it did not affect their will to continue the war. The Soviet invasion did.

 

Without the Soviet entry into the war the Japanese would have continued to fight until quite a few more atomic bombs had been dropped, until there had been a successful US invasion of the home islands and continued aerial bombardment, combined with a naval blockade. President Harry Truman had a workable alternative to using the atom bomb—to cooperate with Stalin, as Roosevelt and Churchill had done on the Western front.

 

When the Red Army invaded Manchuria, the Japanese political leadership were taken by total surprise. The invasion undermined their confidence as well as punching a fatal hole in its strategic plan. Without Japan’s surrender, Tokyo knew that the Soviets would occupy Manchuria, southern Sakhalin, the Kuril Islands and a good half of Korea and then move further southward into the mainland.

 

Moreover, it would have compelled Truman to concede Soviet participation in Japan’s post war occupation. This, not the nuclear bombing, was the key factor in deciding to surrender.

 

Yet neither the conventional nor the nuclear bombing turned the heads of Japan’s leaders. Its Supreme Council did not meet until two days after the Hiroshima attack of August 6th. Yet when the Soviets intervened on August 9th word reached Tokyo by 4.30 am and the Supreme Council met by 10.30am. Following Hiroshima, Emperor Hirohito took no action. He merely asked for “more details”. When he heard of the Soviet invasion, he immediately summoned Lord Privy Seal Koichi Kido and told him, “In the light of the Soviet entry…. It is all the more urgent to find a means to end the war.”

 

After the war Kido confessed, “If military leaders could convince themselves they were defeated by the power of science but not by lack of spiritual power or strategic errors, they could save face.” The Americans were only too happy to oblige in this 1945 political spin. If the bomb did it, then the US had been the prime instrument in Japan’s defeat. If the bomb did it, US prowess would be enhanced throughout the world.

[Issac Newton]

I can't deny JIA activities in Asia but nuking Japan doesn't make sense when Japan Militarism was quite extreme back then. 

[ZattMurdock]

1 minute ago, Issac Newton said:

I can't deny JIA activities in Asia but nuking Japan doesn't make sense when Japan Militarism was quite extreme back then. 

I’m not entirely sure if you are Japanese or just lives there, but I think all it needs to be said is that innocent people died. Civilians died. That isn’t justified in Japan or literally anywhere. The bomb should have never been dropped. Period.

[ZattMurdock]

With that in mind, I’m likely only getting to watch Oppenheimer, Indy, TMNT: Mutant Mayhem and maybe even Barbie during the first week of August, I will try to check these two out as companions afterwards:

 

 

 

[Issac Newton]

2 minutes ago, ZattMurdock said:

I’m not entirely sure if you are Japanese or just lives there, but I think all it needs to be said is that innocent people died. Civilians died. That isn’t justified in Japan or literally anywhere. The bomb should have never been dropped. Period.

That is what I meant - Nukes shouldn't be drop at 1st place - because it doesn't back when Emperor didn't bother until Soviet Invasion - More people would have died if invasion didn't happen from Soviet.

 

Only Civilians died. I don't know why would anyone think nuking Japan was important for surrender. I don't justify Atom Bomb dropping in Japan nor at any country - neither anyone will

[redfirebird2008]

Pleasantly surprised that my local Regal theater is playing this movie in RPX on the upcoming weekend. I grabbed a ticket for $15 on Friday afternoon. And I grabbed an IMAX ticket for next Tuesday morning, discounted from $26 down to $16. 

 

I saw it on a Cinemark XD screen today ($9 on Discount Tuesday) and I was not very impressed by the Cinemark XD screen. The projection appeared to be 2K instead of 4K. The recliners had annoying blue lights on the recliner buttons that I kept noticing in my peripheral vision.

 

Glad to have a chance to see it at the Regal RPX one last time before they switch to other movies in future weeks. That Regal RPX screen is pretty amazing. I think it's 4K Laser projection. Crystal clear, razor sharp, perfect colors, great contrast, etc. Very large screen too, much bigger than the Cinemark XD screen.