MG10 Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 4 hours ago, Bruce said: Personally I predict Batman will take ＄80－100m from China. Batman have same situation as James Bond in China:The Character is well-known and nearly everybody heard of them,but they are not popular nowadays,not many young people like and talk about Batman,So I think Batman performance in China will same as NTTD. I think the same, at least those millions will probably be really useful to pass the $1B mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sophia Jane Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 DOM 350m ＋China 80m ＋OS 400m will be good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruiseCruise Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 35 minutes ago, Bruce said: DOM 350m ＋China 80m ＋OS 400m will be good OS 400m is a little too low, Joker made 738m OS and even Aquaman made like 520m OS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sophia Jane Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 11 minutes ago, BruiseCruise said: OS 400m is a little too low, Joker made 738m OS and even Aquaman made like 520m OS Well,you know it's COVID era Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XXR vs XXR Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 4 minutes ago, Bruce said: Well,you know it's COVID era 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legion Again Posted February 20, 2022 Share Posted February 20, 2022 (edited) Nah, covid era is done. This is the first blockbuster that is really firmly out of it. Except SK 🙃 Edited February 20, 2022 by Derby Legion 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie Jatinder Posted February 20, 2022 Share Posted February 20, 2022 There has been 15% inflation & 10% ER improvement since 2019. Less than $100M is a FLOP for a major CBM. $80M will be just 12M admits. $130M is the bare minimum it shall do. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MG10 Posted February 20, 2022 Share Posted February 20, 2022 17 hours ago, Bruce said: DOM 350m ＋China 80m ＋OS 400m will be good Well that would be quite bad 😅 I'm thinking about 400M in Usa/Canada, 500M or more overseas and 50/100M in China Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juby Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 (edited) On 2/20/2022 at 1:04 PM, MG10 said: Well that would be quite bad 😅 In the last 2 years, only 2 movies surpassed $400m overseas without China: No Way Home ($1.06bn) and No Time to Die ($549m). Batman has naver been as popular as Spidey or Bond outsite U.S.. Even F9 (one of the strongest franchise OS) made only $336m without China. Anything over $400m OS-China for The Batman will be a huge win. On 2/20/2022 at 2:44 AM, charlie Jatinder said: $130M is the bare minimum it shall do. I hope You're right. <fingers crossed> Edited February 21, 2022 by Juby Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruiseCruise Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 TDKR made $580m OS-C 10 years ago and popularity of CBMs has exploded since then plus Batman has a good 3-4 weeks all by itself, 400m would be a dissapointment barring covid coming back like Jordan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie Jatinder Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 12 minutes ago, Juby said: I hope You're right. <fingers crossed> Oh it could very well FLOP and do like $50M. I am saying doing $125M in China today is as good as doing just $200M in USA. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juby Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 (edited) @BruiseCruise TDKR was before covid (some markets still has 25/33/50% capacity limits in theaters) and was a sequel to goddamn TDK (1bn worldwide)! BvS four years later made 447.5m OS-C with higher tickets prices and 3D. JL (the last movie with Batman) ended with less than $323m OS-C +4 years ago. Anything over F9 OS-C for The Batman in those weird times will be a victory for WB. Edited February 21, 2022 by Juby 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruiseCruise Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 13 minutes ago, Juby said: @BruiseCruise TDKR was before covid (some markets still has 25/33/50% capacity limits in theaters) and was a sequel to goddamn TDK (1bn worldwide)! BvS four years later made 447.5m OS-C with higher tickets prices and 3D. JL (the last movie with Batman) ended with less than $323m OS-C +4 years ago. Anything over F9 OS-C for The Batman in those weird times will be a victory for WB. JL and BvS were not well liked movies, this one presumably is awesome Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juby Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 (edited) Presumably... Edited February 21, 2022 by Juby Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MG10 Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 3 hours ago, Juby said: @BruiseCruise TDKR was before covid (some markets still has 25/33/50% capacity limits in theaters) and was a sequel to goddamn TDK (1bn worldwide)! BvS four years later made 447.5m OS-C with higher tickets prices and 3D. JL (the last movie with Batman) ended with less than $323m OS-C +4 years ago. Anything over F9 OS-C for The Batman in those weird times will be a victory for WB. Frankly I think that in March the restrictions will be very few in most of the countries (not that currently it's much different), and looking in particular at the 15 major markets Canada and South Korea have recently reduced or removed them, while I think that only Germany still has some (but I'm not 100% sure because I don't often hear news about them) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peludo Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 20 hours ago, Juby said: @BruiseCruise TDKR was before covid (some markets still has 25/33/50% capacity limits in theaters) and was a sequel to goddamn TDK (1bn worldwide)! BvS four years later made 447.5m OS-C with higher tickets prices and 3D. JL (the last movie with Batman) ended with less than $323m OS-C +4 years ago. Anything over F9 OS-C for The Batman in those weird times will be a victory for WB. Pretty agree. TDKR was the sequel of maybe the most beloved SH film ever and The Batman is a new reboot with, apparently, a really dark tone. Anyway, I could be called optimistic with your ranges, since I am still thinking in 400-450 OS-C, because of lack of competition. With 100 million coming from China and maybe 350 DOM, we have a 850-900 WW range, basically, for example, the same than the first solo Spidey film in MCU (Homecoming). And this one does not have the biggest franchise behind. That would be a very good result, no matters how you look at it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spidey Freak Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 (edited) On 2/22/2022 at 2:11 AM, peludo said: Pretty agree. TDKR was the sequel of maybe the most beloved SH film ever and The Batman is a new reboot with, apparently, a really dark tone. The weirdest trend in The Batman predictions has been people acting like an OS juggernaut like Joker doesn't exist, a character who is literally a Batman spin-off. Edited February 23, 2022 by Spidey Freak 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peludo Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 1 hour ago, Spidey Freak said: The weirdest trend in The Batman predictions has been people acting like an OS juggernaut like Joker doesn't exist, a character who is literally a Batman spin-off. Beyond Joker is a Batman universe character, the Todd's film has not nothing in common with this film or any other SH film. Joker was a drama, not a SH film. Even my 69 years-old mother went to see Joker at theaters. But she would never see a Batman vs Joker film, not even at home. I find absurd to compare both films grosses. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spidey Freak Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 You: This is much darker than the average SH film! Me: ...like Joker? You: Joker is MUCH darker than the average SH film! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peludo Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 27 minutes ago, Spidey Freak said: You: This is much darker than the average SH film! Me: ...like Joker? You: Joker is MUCH darker than the average SH film! So, if the next Spidey film does not reach 1b OS will be a disappointment? Joker was a rarity, an event, like NWH is. You perfectly know that Joker was not the usual SH film. It is based on a character comic, sure, but it is not a SH film. It is way closer to The king of comedy than to TDK. Many people who NEVER see this kind of films went to see Joker. Another proof: how many people here expected Joker making $1b WW before the release? Just one person. And the OS thread was opened 1 day after Phoenix won the prize in Venice. In a forum full of SH hardcore fans, was not there an OS thread for a SH film some weeks before the release? Nobody expected those results. Not even close. For that reason, to expect the same for The Batman is to set yourself to be disappointed. IMO, it has no sense. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
