A Marvel Fanboy Posted June 10, 2012 Share Posted June 10, 2012 Yeah, the electronic tickets sell tracking system, The raw source of box office tracking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juni78ukr Posted June 10, 2012 Share Posted June 10, 2012 (edited) It is also important because our distributors are always complaining that theaters underreport tickets sales. That theaters steal a fair part of grosses. Some believe that it accounts up to 30-40% of real ticket sales. The others give different estimates between 5 and 15%. But so far no one was able to prove anything. Edited June 10, 2012 by juni78ukr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Marvel Fanboy Posted June 10, 2012 Share Posted June 10, 2012 Theaters usually underreport box office in China too. About 2300 out of 3200 theaters are installed with the national online tickets sale tracking system. And even in the thaters that have the system, as much as 10% of the box office for certain big movie can be stolen (by the theaters). There are 3 main ways of stealing (Hollywood films) box office in China: underreport (like a ticket sold at 100 yuan but only 60 yuan is reported), no report (tickets sold not through the electronic tracking system) and wrong report (tickets sold under the name of certan local movies but audience can use the tickets to see a hollywood movie).The worst thing in China, however, is that not only theaters steal the box office, but also the government. Usually the Sartf remove about 10% of the already underreported Hollywood gross by theaters to local films or the money was just kept by some officials. No one can really prove this. It is the govenment, they run everything, what can you do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juni78ukr Posted June 10, 2012 Share Posted June 10, 2012 (edited) Our independent distributors are also not to be trusted. Many believe they also often underreport grosses. So it's a messy business here. Edited June 10, 2012 by juni78ukr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullbuster Posted June 11, 2012 Author Share Posted June 11, 2012 it is true, THR and Box Office had reported just now.It's very disappointing, Russians disappoint me...What happened? I can't believe it :(It will pass Madagascar 2 but not much....$16.5m with 1860 screens and a very liked franchise? Russia box office is not impressive this year, maybe it's higher than 2011 (+28%) but no records, ridiculous.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullbuster Posted June 11, 2012 Author Share Posted June 11, 2012 Theaters usually underreport box office in China too. About 2300 out of 3200 theaters are installed with the national online tickets sale tracking system. And even in the thaters that have the system, as much as 10% of the box office for certain big movie can be stolen (by the theaters). There are 3 main ways of stealing (Hollywood films) box office in China: underreport (like a ticket sold at 100 yuan but only 60 yuan is reported), no report (tickets sold not through the electronic tracking system) and wrong report (tickets sold under the name of certan local movies but audience can use the tickets to see a hollywood movie).The worst thing in China, however, is that not only theaters steal the box office, but also the government. Usually the Sartf remove about 10% of the already underreported Hollywood gross by theaters to local films or the money was just kept by some officials. No one can really prove this. It is the govenment, they run everything, what can you do.Russia and China have a long way to go..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullbuster Posted June 11, 2012 Author Share Posted June 11, 2012 You forecasted less than $10m, you failed too, as your forecasts for The Avengers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fmpro Posted June 11, 2012 Share Posted June 11, 2012 is it possible that Euro soccer game Russia vs Chech has something to do with this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fmpro Posted June 11, 2012 Share Posted June 11, 2012 You forecasted less than $10m, you failed too, as your forecasts for The Avengers Has he ever forecasted ANYTHING right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullbuster Posted June 11, 2012 Author Share Posted June 11, 2012 is it possible that Euro soccer game Russia vs Chech has something to do with this?Tsss..Soccer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullbuster Posted June 11, 2012 Author Share Posted June 11, 2012 Has he ever forecasted ANYTHING right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullbuster Posted June 11, 2012 Author Share Posted June 11, 2012 With a 2.5 multiplier Madagascar 3 would reach $45m, slightly ahead of The Avengers and Madagascar 2, not bad but we could expect better, under $50m is disappointing for me given the popularity of this franchise.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullbuster Posted June 11, 2012 Author Share Posted June 11, 2012 Ice Age 4 will crush it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Marvel Fanboy Posted June 11, 2012 Share Posted June 11, 2012 IA4 is our last hope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juni78ukr Posted June 11, 2012 Share Posted June 11, 2012 With a 2.5 multiplier Madagascar 3 would reach $45m, slightly ahead of The Avengers and Madagascar 2, not bad but we could expect better, under $50m is disappointing for me given the popularity of this franchise..There is still a chance Madagascar 3 wiil make close to $50m. For some reason opening weekend is deflated. Only 4.2 multipluyer is really bad even with working Saturday. The real question now is how much it will gross on Monday and Tuesday. But without daily numbers it's hard to say anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tower Posted June 11, 2012 Share Posted June 11, 2012 With Russia playing in the Euros and a working saturday, it makes sense that the weekend would be disappointing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudolf Posted June 11, 2012 Share Posted June 11, 2012 their next game is Tuesday evening Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juni78ukr Posted June 11, 2012 Share Posted June 11, 2012 Estimated daily numbers from kinometroMadagascar 3Thursday 130m RUB ($3.96mFriday 103m RUB ($3.14m)Saturday 126m RUB ($3.84mSunday 184 RUB ($5.61m)Total 543m RUB ($16.56m)Prometheus 107m RUB ($3.26m)MIB 3 58m ($1.77m) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudolf Posted June 11, 2012 Share Posted June 11, 2012 Estimated daily numbers from kinometroMadagascar 3Thursday 130m RUB ($3.96mFriday 103m RUB ($3.14m)Saturday 126m RUB ($3.84mSunday 184 RUB ($5.61m)Total 543m RUB ($16.56m)Prometheus 107m RUB ($3.26m)MIB 3 58m ($1.77m)Friday was their first game, but probably worst BO anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Marston Posted June 11, 2012 Share Posted June 11, 2012 can Prometheus reach 20M Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
