Taruseth Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 11 hours ago, PKMLover said: Is Germany a leggy market for animated movie? What can be the legs for F2? Germany in general tends to be more leggy than the US for example (nowhere near as leggy as Japan though), but as @Poseidon pointed out weather plays a big part. Pets 2 got those legs because the first weekend was really hot and that depressed the numbers greatly. Frozen II opened on a rather cinema friendly weekend. Only thing that might help Frozen II was the insane pressure that Sunday and Saturday had (a lot of almost sold out showings - that rarely if at all happens). I still have no actually idea what Sunday was worth but most things point towards the biggest day since quite some time: Movies with days above 400k (apart from Frozen II): Endgame (Saturday ~525k) FJG III (Saturday and Sunday 475-525k) TLJ (OD 425k probably Saturday below 450k) TFA (562k OD Saturday most likely above 600k) FJG II (Saturday most likely above TFA's). And 6 movies above 4M, and last year and 2016 there wasn't a single movie above 4M. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristis Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 1 hour ago, edroger3 said: Just Happened! https://www.theguardian.com/film/2019/nov/26/paris-theater-nyc-netflix-cinema-future Well... if they contribute to BO and this helps some cinemas as the Paris, better Netflix helps reducing its own damage. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristis Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 Thursday numbers: Frozen2 70k (-36%) €575k/$630k Geheimnis 30k (-30%) €265k/$290k Hustlers 11,1k €95k/$105k Last Christmas 10,8k (-10%) €90k/$100k Joker 6,7k (-33%) €61,5k/$67,5k 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danhtruong5 Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 41 minutes ago, Aristis said: Thursday numbers: Frozen2 70k (-36%) €575k/$630k Geheimnis 30k (-30%) €265k/$290k Hustlers 11,1k €95k/$105k Last Christmas 10,8k (-10%) €90k/$100k Joker 6,7k (-33%) €61,5k/$67,5k That drop is good or bad for F2? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taruseth Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Aristis said: Thursday numbers: Frozen2 70k (-36%) €575k/$630k Geheimnis 30k (-30%) €265k/$290k Hustlers 11,1k €95k/$105k Last Christmas 10,8k (-10%) €90k/$100k Joker 6,7k (-33%) €61,5k/$67,5k First trend by insidekino.de: Frozen II: 900k (-37% / -45%) (2.78M total)* (best 2nd Wend this year above Endgame 871.3k) Geheimnis: 275k (-34%) (3.74M total)** Last Christmas: 95k (-12%) (460k total)*** Hustlers: 80k Joker: 55k (-37.5%) (3.91M)**** * that would mean 245k over the weekdays, for a 1675k opening weekend (Thursday-Wednesday) **If it holds well until christmas I would say it should get to around 4.5M ***That run, is kinda impressive, lol, didn't think it would get past 300k or so and now it looks like ****so Joker will definitely get above 4M. Edited November 29, 2019 by Taruseth 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristis Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 1 hour ago, Taruseth said: Frozen II: 900k (-37% / -45%) (2.78M total) I hope that is a rather low prediction since IM would be down from OW. I won't except anything lower than 950k 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taruseth Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 On 11/29/2019 at 12:27 PM, Aristis said: I hope that is a rather low prediction since IM would be down from OW. I won't except anything lower than 950k accept* And looks like you need to settle for 900k. Cause 2nd Trend looks like this (all but Frozen II are down from the 1st trend): Frozen II: 900k Geheimnis: 260k Last Christmas: 85k Hustlers: 77.5k Joker: 52.5k Le Mans 66: 40k Zombieland: 32.5k And I also have a theory why the predictions stayed at 900k, last Saturday and Sunday were insanely strong, especially Sunday was and it is most likely almost impossible to replicate that this weekend. 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristis Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 4 hours ago, Taruseth said: accept* Lol, don't know how that could happen But maybe *Ich werde nicht, außer irgendetwas unter 950k* was what I wanted to say 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taruseth Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 6 hours ago, Aristis said: Lol, don't know how that could happen But maybe *Ich werde nicht, außer irgendetwas unter 950k* was what I wanted to say 🤣 Let's hope for a better weekend. Finally had the time to watch it, like it more than the first (even though songs overall are slightly weaker). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danhtruong5 Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 When will the final trend for this weekend come? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taruseth Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 5 hours ago, danhtruong5 said: When will the final trend for this weekend come? It's up; insidekino's 3rd Trend: All but frozen are down (geheimnis by 20k, LC by 10k, Hustlers by 5k, the others three by 2.5k) Frozen II: 900k Geheimnis: 240k Last Christmas: 75k Hustlers: 72.5k Joker: 50k Le Mans 66: 37.5k Zombieland: 30k 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristis Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 Monday numbers: F2 is up, the rest is pretty much the same. Frozen 2 930k (-35%/-43%) 2,81M 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taruseth Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 9 hours ago, Aristis said: Monday numbers: F2 is up, the rest is pretty much the same. Frozen 2 930k (-35%/-43%) 2,81M Let's hope actuals come in a little higher (this btw. would barely be the 3rd best opening this year (6/8k above Geheimnis and TLK). Right now it's 700k ahead of TLK and 900k behind Avengers). During the next three days it should barely gain against Endgame (like 25-50k) and lose 200+k to TLK, but on the following weekend, it should gain 200k on Endgame and probably 50k (hopefully significantly more) on TLK. With this weekend the target remains 6M (or more like 6.15M and the highest movie since TFA back in 2015). I hope for the best. With 2.81M after a 930k 2nd weekend 5M should be really certain. On Wednesday it should have passed 3M and after the weekend stand around 3.6M. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndustriousAngel Posted December 3, 2019 Author Share Posted December 3, 2019 (edited) Germany's Top20 last weekend: title admissions th. PTA total adm. total € drop week 1 Frozen 2 940.941 747 1.260 2.822.300 23.857.701 -34 2 2 Das perfekte Geheimnis 244.594 736 332 3.706.978 32.902.706 -42 5 3 Last Christmas 78.709 515 153 441.826 3.666.134 -27 3 4 Hustlers 71.054 350 203 74.166 654.512 - 1 5 Joker 53.247 488 109 3.907.240 36.177.546 -39 8 6 Ford vs. Ferrari 38.188 362 105 270.470 2.593.070 -42 3 7 Zombieland 2 31.946 368 87 399.371 3.368.225 -40 4 8 Doctor Sleep 22.598 364 62 81.242 757.526 -50 2 9 The Addams Family 20.584 483 43 505.498 3.675.113 -33 6 10 Recep Ivedik 6 (KS) 17.283 113 153 352.193 2.979.745 -52 4 11 La Belle Epoque 16.418 101 163 20.924 174.536 - 1 12 Parasite 11.883 174 68 335.226 2.928.997 -30 7 13 Maleficent 2 11.301 295 38 1.033.719 9.956.183 -50 7 14 The Lighthouse 11.095 83 134 14.171 112.970 - 1 15 Lara 10.108 143 71 142.326 1.143.750 -46 4 16 Shaun the Sheep 2 9.409 401 23 844.412 5.696.678 -37 10 17 The Good Liar 8.511 103 83 8.607 71.303 - 1 18 Aretha Franklin - Amazing Grace 7.622 81 94 7.622 63.099 - 1 19 Angry Birds 2 7.410 224 33 769.208 5.378.679 -33 11 20 Proceder 7.054 79 89 7.054 81.373 - 1 While Frozen2 continued its market domination, the weekend went worse than we hoped … steep drops and only two releases >100k admissions and even some with <10k admissions on the chart, nearly like a summer weekend. Next weekend: No danger for the Top2 … Edited December 3, 2019 by IndustriousAngel 4 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristis Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 Like I did in the France Thread, here's a comparison of F1 and F2: WE Frozen1 Frozen2 1st 572 654 1.430 1.635 2nd 577 1% 1.355 941 -34% 2.822 3rd 476 -18% 1.952 4th 433 -9% 2.499 5th 540 25% 3.242 6th 402 -26% 3.838 7th 158 -61% 4.091 8th 107 -32% 4.217 9th 81 -24% 4.311 10th 89 10% 4.412 4.767M 6.000M Since I hope F2 might get around Minions number it's interesting to compare those runs too: WE Minions Frozen2 1st 935 935 1.430 1.635 2nd 1.040 11% 2.394 941 -34% 2.822 3rd 760 -27% 3.598 4th 537 -29% 4.419 5th 366 -32% 5.147 6th 195 -47% 5.521 7th 242 24% 5.893 8th 111 -54% 6.160 9th 81 -27% 6.323 10th 125 54% 6.497 6.946M 6.000M Minions run was just crazy. It was first from 1st to 5th WE and then again on the 7th and 10th. It's the 5th biggest CGI-animated movie in admissions and the biggest in gross (€57,93M). Frozen getting there too would be awesome! 6 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edroger3 Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 1 hour ago, Aristis said: Minions run was just crazy. It was first from 1st to 5th WE and then again on the 7th and 10th. It's the 5th biggest CGI-animated movie in admissions and the biggest in gross (€57,93M). Frozen getting there too would be awesome! Minions was in summer, F2 can have a fell in W3/4, then a rise in W5/6/7 thanks to holiday (at least I hope). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LPLC Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 Thanks to holidays how much admissions and euros frozen 2 can reach in germany ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Parr Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 1 hour ago, edroger3 said: Minions was in summer, F2 can have a fell in W3/4, then a rise in W5/6/7 thanks to holiday (at least I hope). A rise on weekend 5 seems highly unlikely. It is not part of the holidays yet. Frozen didn't manage to increase on that weekend back in 2013 either. Fack ju Göhte! did increase, but it was the only movie. And back then it was the weekend after The Hobbit 2 started, while this time around it is the weekend Star Wars starts, which will capture most ofthe audience and get the largest screens, meaning there was a better chance for a good hold back then than there is now due to how the competition is scheduled (dropping from facing a huge opener to dropping against a huge opener). Weekend six could see an increase though. Almost everything improved or had a tiny drop, even with two pretty big starts happening at the same time. Frozen's 7th weekend was below but at least broadly in the same range as the 5th weekend. Most movies were down quite a bit from the 5th and obviously even more from the 6th weekend. Apart from Fack ju Göhte! which was pretty close to its 6th weekend and above its 5th one. With Frozen 2 being a sequel, and burning off more demand right now, it might just see a bump on weekend 6 before dropping below weekend 5 on weekend 7 again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristis Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 4 hours ago, LPLC said: Thanks to holidays how much admissions and euros frozen 2 can reach in germany ? I would still expect 6M admissions / €50M / $55M. Next WE we should have a clearer picture. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristis Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 1st Trend: #1 Frozen 2 600k (-36%) 3,56M - it got past 3M yesterday, if it reaches 586k+ this WE it'll have the biggest 3rd WE of the year. #2 Geheimnis 160k (-35%) 3,945M #3 Last Christmas 75k (-5%) 550k #4 Hustlers 55k (-23%/-26%) #5 Joker 35k (-34%) 3,96M 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...