IndustriousAngel Posted November 9, 2023 Author Share Posted November 9, 2023 well , OD for Marvels and the 200k OW seems like a wet dream ... in fact, if this manages a 6-digit-OW at all it would surprise me. The time when every new MCU movie was bound to be at least a mid-sized hit are definitely over, this is deep within flop territory. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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IndustriousAngel Posted November 10, 2023 Author Share Posted November 10, 2023 ok, early weekend estimates from insidekino.de not as bad as I feared ... #1: Marvels - 180k #2/3: Trolls3 or CheckerTobi2, 65k each piss-poor weekend overall 😭 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el sid Posted November 11, 2023 Share Posted November 11, 2023 (edited) The second trend from insidekino.de - the admission numbers of the new releases are with previews: #1 The Marvels 180k - stable #2 Trolls 70k #3 Checker Tobi 2 60k #4 Killers of the Flower Moon 55k #5 FNAF 52.5k #6 Atatürk 1881-1919 45k #7 Neue Geschichten vom Pumuckl 37.5k #8 Die unlangweiligste Schule der Welt 35k #9 One for the Road 35k #10 Anatomie eines Falls 30k #11 Ein ganzes Leben 32.5k #12 Wochenendrebellen 30k #13 Ein Fest fürs Leben 30k #14 Paw Patrol 30k #15 Das fliegende Klassenzimmer 25k ... Sound of Freedom 20k Thabo 7.5k Edited November 11, 2023 by el sid 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el sid Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 The final trend from insidekino.de: #1 The Marvels 190k #2 Trolls 65k #3 Checker Tobi 2 65k #4 KotFM 55k #5 FNAF 55k #6 Neue Geschichten vom Pumuckl 50k #7 Paw Patrol 40k #8 Atatürk 1881-1919 40k #9 Wochenendrebellen 35k #10 Die unlangweiligste Schule der Welt 35k #11 One for the Road 32.5k #12 Anatomie eines Falls 32.5k #13 Ein ganzes Leben 32.5k #14 Ein Fest fürs Leben 30k ... Sound of Freedom 20k Thabo 7.5k 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el sid Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 The Monday update from insidekino.de: #1 The Marvels 192.5k #2 Trolls 65k/595k total admissions #3 Checker Tobi 2 62.5k/870k #4 FNAF 55k/522.5k #5 KotFM 55k/507.5k #6 Neue Geschichten vom Pumuckl 50k/222.5k #7 Atatürk 1881-1919 40k #8 Paw Patrol 40k/1.267.5M ... Ein ganzes Leben 37.5k Sound of Freedom 22.5k Thabo 7k 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndustriousAngel Posted November 14, 2023 Author Share Posted November 14, 2023 Germany's Top18 last weekend: title admissions th. PTA total adm. total € drop week 1 The Marvels 170.429 560 304 193.648 2.248.371 - 1 2 Trolls 3 64.486 600 107 596.288 596.288 -42 4 3 Checker Tobi 2 61.989 719 86 871.172 6.488.723 -44 6 4 Five Nights at Freddy's 55.532 512 108 522.619 5.265.858 -45 3 5 Killers of the Flower Moon 54.553 574 95 506.649 6.084.441 -35 4 6 Neue Geschichten vom Pumuckl 49.928 567 88 222.849 1.553.926 -40 3 7 Atatürk 1881-1919 41.092 78 527 41.092 433.808 - 1 8 Paw Patrol 2 40.285 573 70 1.267.755 9.776.557 -46 7 9 Ein ganzes Leben 37.611 183 206 41.600 392.405 - 1 10 Wochenendrebellen 36.959 584 63 841.403 7.659.499 -35 7 11 Die unlangweiligste Schule der Welt 34.120 507 67 200.046 1.510.070 -42 3 12 Anatomie d'une chute 32.437 141 230 87.667 895.375 -12 2 13 One for the Road 31.988 431 74 190.180 1.792.312 -27 3 14 Ein Fest fürs Leben 31.094 522 60 304.913 2.944.889 -38 4 15 Das fliegende Klassenzimmer 21.827 523 42 345.414 2.627.475 -52 5 16 Sound of Freedom 19.398 155 125 22.746 230.024 - 1 17 Vermeer - Reise ins Licht 10.652 105 101 12.690 113.440 - 1 18 The Nun 2 10.507 213 49 894.997 9.303.556 -46 9 Overall a horrible weekend … The Marvels with one of the worst openings in MCU history, and steep drops all around. At least the Atatürk movie showed a healthy PTA as expected! Last year, Black Panther 2 opened to >400k on the same weekend … just sad how much worse the BO is atm. In Austria, similar results - overall a little better but not by much. Once more, Pumuckl is doing much better here than in its home market. Next weekend: Hopefully, a stronger weekend with the new Hunger Games movie - I don't know if anybody has been waiting for this prequel but presales look better than for The Marvels, it should hit 300-350k OW. 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Issac Newton Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 The Marvels (Austria) - €307K Debut (FSS €242K) 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndustriousAngel Posted November 17, 2023 Author Share Posted November 17, 2023 (edited) early weekend estimates from insidekino.de: #1: HungerGamesPrequel - 400k (better than expected) #2: Marvels - 85k (-50%, ouch) #3: Trolls 3 - 60k (-7%) At least one good opening, and family releases with good holds ... still not a good weekend. Edited November 17, 2023 by IndustriousAngel 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
interiorgatordecorator Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 5 hours ago, IndustriousAngel said: #2: Marvels - 85k (-50%, ouch) 50% seems pretty great why ouch? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustLurking Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 24 minutes ago, interiorgatordecorator said: 50% seems pretty great why ouch? different markets have different expectations for drops (first of all because most don't have the US practice of rolling previews into friday) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sophia Jane Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 3 hours ago, interiorgatordecorator said: 50% seems pretty great why ouch? It’s Germany market ,50% drop is insane huge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keysersoze123 Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 For Marvels that is equivalent of 2nd weekend increase :-) I think Europe would ensure overseas number would look great relative to spectacular drop that domestic will have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el sid Posted November 18, 2023 Share Posted November 18, 2023 The second trend from insidekino.de - as mentioned many good holds: #1 Hunger Games: BOSS 400k #2 The Marvels 90k #3 Trolls 60k - almost flat #4 Checker Tobi 2 50k #5 Neue Geschichten vom Pumuckl 50k - flat #6 Thanksgiving 45k #7 Ein ganzes Leben 35k - flat #8 Killers of the Flower Moon 35k #9 Paw Patrol 35k #10 Die unlangweiligste Schule der Welt 32.5k - flat #11 Five Nights at Freddy's 27.5k #12 Wochenendrebellen 25k 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taruseth Posted November 19, 2023 Share Posted November 19, 2023 On 11/17/2023 at 2:51 PM, interiorgatordecorator said: 50% seems pretty great why ouch? BP 2 had a 31.5 % drop on the same weekend last year. GotG 3 dropped 31 % earlier this year. Ant-Man 3 dropped 37 %. (Though Ant-Man, Guardians and BP all opened on a Wednesday - Taking some of the pressure of the weekend, The Marvels opened on a Thursday and "only" had previews on Wednesday - and with how big previews have gotten in the US etc- they pretty much became a full day meaning other countries have a 4 day OWend and then a 3 day 2nd Wend, leading to somewhat larger drops). Though to be fair, Marvel movies have dropped close to 50 % in the past too (Endgame dropped 48 %), Infinity War dropped 56 %. So it's not great, but it honestly isn't awful either. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el sid Posted November 19, 2023 Share Posted November 19, 2023 The final trend from insidekino.de: #1 The Hunger Games: BOSS 390k #2 The Marvels 90k #3 Trolls 60k #4 Checker Tobi 2 52.5k #5 Neue Geschichten vom Pumuckl 45k #6 Thanksgiving 42.5k #7 Ein ganzes Leben 35k #8 Killers of the Flower Moon 35k #9 Paw Patrol 35k #10 Die unlangweiligste Schule der Welt 35k #11 FNAF 27.5k 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el sid Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 The Monday update from insidekino.de - some small increases: #1 Hunger Games 400k #2 The Marvels 92.5k/317.5k total admissions #3 Trolls 60k/665k #4 Checker Tobi 2 55k/932.5k #5 Neue Geschichten vom Pumuckl 47.5k/275k #6 Thanksgiving 45k #7 Ein ganzes Leben 37.5k/97.5k 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Issac Newton Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 Austria The Hunger Games: The Ballad of Songbirds &Snakes - €373K (i.p. €488K) The Marvels - €116K / €489K 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndustriousAngel Posted November 21, 2023 Author Share Posted November 21, 2023 Germany's Top20 last weekend: title admissions th. PTA total adm. total € drop week 1 The Hunger Games Prequel 360.772 675 534 401.964 4.637.076 - 1 2 The Marvels 92.080 562 164 317.610 3.593.382 -46 2 3 Trolls 3 60.341 583 104 665.234 5.725.102 -6 5 4 Checker Tobi 2 55.754 699 80 933.472 6.945.685 -10 7 5 Neue Geschichten vom Pumuckl 47.563 532 89 275.420 1.923.161 -5 4 6 Thanksgiving 44.294 298 149 44.381 459.757 - 1 7 Ein ganzes Leben 37.066 216 172 98.513 926.629 -1 2 8 Killers of the Flower Moon 36.211 427 85 558.562 6.682.449 -34 5 9 Die unlangweiligste Schule der Welt 35.752 496 72 239.783 1.807.859 +5 4 10 Paw Patrol 2 35.289 502 70 1.307.672 10.085.728 -12 8 11 Five Nights at Freddy's 27.178 437 62 560.814 5.647.805 -51 4 12 Wochenendrebellen 26.535 518 51 877.396 7.984.461 -28 8 13 Anatomie d'une Chute 24.581 150 164 126.608 1.296.944 -24 3 14 Atatürk 1881-1919 21.813 112 195 71.464 743.877 -47 2 15 One for the Road 20.506 398 52 220.752 2.085.836 -36 4 16 Ein Fest fürs Leben 20.491 429 48 335.576 3.234.589 -34 5 17 Das fliegende Klassenzimmer 18.989 450 42 367.230 2.679.919 -13 6 18 Die Biene Maja - Die Honigspiele 15.336 44 349 345.255 2.218.056 + 299 19 The Quiet Girl 15.101 102 148 20.920 164.028 - 1 20 Sound of Freedom 12.966 163 80 41.740 421.629 -33 2 A better weekend thanks to the good opening of Hunger Games (even a bit higher than I expected) but overall still weak, with Marvels imploding after the already low OW. Family releases with good holds but from a low level. In Austria, similar numbers, still with Pumuckl doing much better than in its home market (#2 by admissions in Austria). Next weekend: One big opener, Ridely Scott's Napoleon. While I don't believe it will become a big hit, presales look ok and it might beat Hunger Games' 2nd weekend for #1. If it's spectacular enough, one million total should be possible (hey, a pretty dry Oppenheimer biopic just counted >4mil admissions this year, so Napoleon should be a blockbuster, but that's not how the BO works …) 3 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brainbug Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 1 hour ago, IndustriousAngel said: Germany's Top20 last weekend: title admissions th. PTA total adm. total € drop week 1 The Hunger Games Prequel 360.772 675 534 401.964 4.637.076 - 1 2 The Marvels 92.080 562 164 317.610 3.593.382 -46 2 3 Trolls 3 60.341 583 104 665.234 5.725.102 -6 5 4 Checker Tobi 2 55.754 699 80 933.472 6.945.685 -10 7 5 Neue Geschichten vom Pumuckl 47.563 532 89 275.420 1.923.161 -5 4 6 Thanksgiving 44.294 298 149 44.381 459.757 - 1 7 Ein ganzes Leben 37.066 216 172 98.513 926.629 -1 2 8 Killers of the Flower Moon 36.211 427 85 558.562 6.682.449 -34 5 9 Die unlangweiligste Schule der Welt 35.752 496 72 239.783 1.807.859 +5 4 10 Paw Patrol 2 35.289 502 70 1.307.672 10.085.728 -12 8 11 Five Nights at Freddy's 27.178 437 62 560.814 5.647.805 -51 4 12 Wochenendrebellen 26.535 518 51 877.396 7.984.461 -28 8 13 Anatomie d'une Chute 24.581 150 164 126.608 1.296.944 -24 3 14 Atatürk 1881-1919 21.813 112 195 71.464 743.877 -47 2 15 One for the Road 20.506 398 52 220.752 2.085.836 -36 4 16 Ein Fest fürs Leben 20.491 429 48 335.576 3.234.589 -34 5 17 Das fliegende Klassenzimmer 18.989 450 42 367.230 2.679.919 -13 6 18 Die Biene Maja - Die Honigspiele 15.336 44 349 345.255 2.218.056 + 299 19 The Quiet Girl 15.101 102 148 20.920 164.028 - 1 20 Sound of Freedom 12.966 163 80 41.740 421.629 -33 2 A better weekend thanks to the good opening of Hunger Games (even a bit higher than I expected) but overall still weak, with Marvels imploding after the already low OW. Family releases with good holds but from a low level. In Austria, similar numbers, still with Pumuckl doing much better than in its home market (#2 by admissions in Austria). Next weekend: One big opener, Ridely Scott's Napoleon. While I don't believe it will become a big hit, presales look ok and it might beat Hunger Games' 2nd weekend for #1. If it's spectacular enough, one million total should be possible (hey, a pretty dry Oppenheimer biopic just counted >4mil admissions this year, so Napoleon should be a blockbuster, but that's not how the BO works …) Maybe Napoleon conquers Germany as if it was the year 1806. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...