IndustriousAngel Posted December 14, 2016 Author Share Posted December 14, 2016 8 hours ago, Aristis said: Petterson & Findus does really great! But it has so much cinemas No big deal with only afternoon shows, there's little competition and you can keep some shows running like forever - there's even some cinemas still playing Bibi&Tina3 and Rico+Oscar 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndustriousAngel Posted December 15, 2016 Author Share Posted December 15, 2016 Haven't heard any numbers yet; my midnight show was only about 30-40% full but the fact that they played R1 on 5 of the 8 screens diluted the crowd; overall I'd say a >1mil opening is looking good atm. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el sid Posted December 15, 2016 Share Posted December 15, 2016 (edited) I'm not that optimistic at the moment when I look at "my" theaters. Sadly we won't get Thursday estimates this evening :(. But I will check the South-West reports which will (hopefully) be posted in 10 minutes and compare these numbers with the Star Wars: The Force Awakens numbers (which were probably more frontloaded). At least I can report that Rogue One - A Star Wars Story starts in 760 theaters with mostly good reviews but also a few bad and some very good ones. Edit: I'm sorry, also no South-West reports today. So we have to be patient for at least 9 hours ;). The WOM at movie websites seems to be pretty good so far. Edited December 15, 2016 by el sid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndustriousAngel Posted December 16, 2016 Author Share Posted December 16, 2016 (edited) First weekend estimates from insidekino.de and it looks like a close one: #1: R1 - 1.025k admissions #2: Sing - 300k (-20%, good) #3: FB - 175k (-35%, not so good) #4: WbdH - 125k (-30%) #5: OCP - 85k (-30%) Well, it looks as if R1 can make it to the million, but of course it depends on the internal multiplier. I liked it well enough, most reviews are good and my crowd sounded mildly positive so I hope it will not crumble! Edited December 16, 2016 by IndustriousAngel 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el sid Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 Some Thursday actuals (source: insidekino.de/Blickpunkt:Film): New Releases: Rogue One - A Star Wars Story: 220k (starts in 760 theaters, mostly good reviews; Star Wars VII had 560k and 2.15M admissions on its first weekend but I guess that movie was more frontloaded so its not a completely fair comparison) Paula: 4k (ca. 100 theaters, ok to good reviews) Shut In: 1.2k (103, bad reviews) Holdovers: Sing: 25k (last Thursday 30k whole day) Fantastic Beasts: 16k (25k) Hartmanns: 13k (16.5k) Office Christmas: 9k (14.5k) So two ok and two very ok Thursday holds given the competition. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristis Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 (edited) 9 hours ago, IndustriousAngel said: First weekend estimates from insidekino.de and it looks like a close one: #1: R1 - 1.025k admissions #2: Sing - 300k (-20%, good) #3: FB - 175k (-35%, not so good) #4: WbdH - 125k (-30%) #5: OCP - 85k (-30%) Well, it looks as if R1 can make it to the million, but of course it depends on the internal multiplier. I liked it well enough, most reviews are good and my crowd sounded mildly positive so I hope it will not crumble! I hope RO can increase from that estimate I don't think that -30% is bad for FB. Holidays start next week, RO is huge competition. I think that's good! FB at 2,79M WbdH 2,73M Both should pass 3M by far... They'll pass maybe even 3,5M Edited December 16, 2016 by Aristis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el sid Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 (edited) The Friday estimates (insidekino.de/forum): New Releases: Rogue One: 210k – it stays close Shut In: 3.5k Holdovers: Willkommen bei den Hartmanns: 31.5k (last Friday 37.5k) - surprisingly good FB: 26.5k (52.5k) - remember that it was often/always underestimated Sing: 24.5k evening only (35k also only evening) - very ok Office Christmas Party: 22.5k (36k) - also ok Arrival: 13k (26k) Sully: 6.5k (18k) * Underworld 5: 4.5k (15.5k) * I don't know why Sully doesn't do better here. Not that this movie would need the help of the German moviegoers to be a WW hit but still I'm disappointed. I liked the film and would rate it B+. I guess it wasn't well-frequented enough in its first week and than too many other big films that overperformed like Fantastic Beasts and Hartmanns, etc. caused that Sully only got the smallest cinema halls and often only one playtime a day (e.g. in mathäser and the cineplex where I saw it). Edited December 16, 2016 by el sid 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonwo Posted December 17, 2016 Share Posted December 17, 2016 It'll be interesting that Moana does in Germany, I could see it eating into Sing's legs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndustriousAngel Posted December 17, 2016 Author Share Posted December 17, 2016 7 hours ago, Jonwo said: It'll be interesting that Moana does in Germany, I could see it eating into Sing's legs That's certyinly the case, although Moana starts with surprisingly little buzz. Of course, over the holidays the market for family movies is bigger than anywhen else through the year, so you can have two hits co-exist pretty comfortably. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rthmessiah Posted December 17, 2016 Share Posted December 17, 2016 R1 Fri about lc2. 5/210k 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el sid Posted December 17, 2016 Share Posted December 17, 2016 (edited) No 2nd trend so far although it's (such) a nice one? 2nd trend:#1 Rogue One 1.025k – honestly I didn't think that it will stay over the 1M mark in the 2nd trend but very nice #2 Sing 325k #3 FB 175k #4 Willkommen bei den Hartmanns 125k #5 Office Christmas Party 90k #6 Pettersson & Findus - Das schönste Weihnachten überhaupt 60k #7 Arrival 40k #8 Die Vampirschwestern 3 40k #9 Paula - Mein Leben soll ein Fest sein 25k #10 Shut In 22.5k Edited December 17, 2016 by el sid 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrestrial Posted December 17, 2016 Share Posted December 17, 2016 screendaily has an article about Germany's year so far Quote By the end of the third quarter, admissions were down 13.3% and box-office takings had slipped 10.9% year-on-year. The fall has been attributed to a cannibalisation of audiences due to the bunched release dates and poorly reviewed films such as Ben-Hur, as well as the warm weather. The top 25 films at the German box office in 2016 (correct until November 30) are below http://www.screendaily.com/5112318.article 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndustriousAngel Posted December 17, 2016 Author Share Posted December 17, 2016 Cannibalisation due to bunched release dates? Give me a break ... sure, let's say the sheer number of CGI movies eats into the possible admissions per movie, but overall, admissions should stay about the same. No, we had a year without breakout hits, with disappointing should-have-been-blockbusters, and very long streaks of excellent weather (remember, going to the movies is only #3 or #4 on the list of possible evening occupations, if at all), plus of course the Euro 2016 and Olympic Games (championship years always are bad BO-wise). 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristis Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 (edited) The 3rd Trend has RO now at 1M (down 25k from yesterday trend), that gonna be very slim... Sing 325k (-16%/-23%) FB 160k (-39%) WbdH 125k (-21%) Edited December 18, 2016 by Aristis 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Parr Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 Mark_G even said that he wasn't quite sure whether to say 1 million or 975k, so it's probably more at the low side of things at this point. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndustriousAngel Posted December 18, 2016 Author Share Posted December 18, 2016 whew, that will be a close one ... if it drops, it'll be the first time in more than 20 years that there's no >1mil opener in Germany. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrestrial Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 Exhibitor Relations @ERCboxoffice 3m3 minutes ago ROGUE ONE scored $135.5M overseas. UK ($21M) GER ($12M) OZ ($11M) FRA ($10M) JPN ($8M) RUS ($5.6M) BRZ ($5.3M) MEX ($5.1M) ESP ($4.5M) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristis Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 5 minutes ago, terrestrial said: Exhibitor Relations @ERCboxoffice 3m3 minutes ago ROGUE ONE scored $135.5M overseas. UK ($21M) GER ($12M) OZ ($11M) FRA ($10M) JPN ($8M) RUS ($5.6M) BRZ ($5.3M) MEX ($5.1M) ESP ($4.5M) Sadly this doesn't tell us if RO had 1M+ admissions. So we'll have to wait 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jb007 Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 Just now, Aristis said: Sadly this doesn't tell us if RO had 1M+ admissions. So we'll have to wait Let's certainly hope it does cross the 1M threshold since it is the last hope for 2016. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrestrial Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 22 minutes ago, Aristis said: Sadly this doesn't tell us if RO had 1M+ admissions. So we'll have to wait At keast it tells us something. I think it is a bit too early for the 1m question, it seems to be rather near (? nah), maybe every ticket counts? Here it snows... 21 minutes ago, jb007 said: Let's certainly hope it does cross the 1M threshold since it is the last hope for 2016. I hope so too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
