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3 hours ago, Flip said:

Forecast for June is in from insidekino: 1.19m admits for Bad Boys and 2.52m admits for Inside Out 2. 

 

The bad Boys number is strong but I feel if Inside out can't pass 3m it's kind of disappointing

Surely Euros would have a negative effect on moviegoing overall especially in Germany?

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9 hours ago, thajdikt said:

Surely Euros would have a negative effect on moviegoing overall especially in Germany?

I think that's already included in the forecast but yes, especially releases targeted at 15+ males and the overall market will suffer badly. Family releases might still do well (depending on weather) and often there are some arthouse releases or movies targeted at females that do surprisingly well - not everyone is loving football, after all.

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Germany's Top15 last weekend:

 

title

admissions

th.

PTA

total adm.

total €

drop

week

1

Garfield

213.678

682

313

799.761

6.906.100

+117

4

2

IF

143.245

592

242

401.374

3.389.584

+124

3

3

Furiosa

80.984

644

126

223.000

2.657.235

-7

2

4

Planet of the Apes 4

76.691

571

134

511.253

5.898.563

+24

4

5

The Fall Guy

70.045

550

127

565.167

5.949.398

+45

5

6

Chantal im Märchenland

51.675

493

105

2.616.542

26.311.859

+64

10

7

Tarot

38.288

356

108

149.301

1.563.755

+23

3

8

Kung Fu Panda 4

31.216

416

75

1.740.164

15.895.910

+140

12

9

Challengers

28.548

336

85

323.758

3.269.338

+32

6

10

Back to Black

24.036

385

62

572.351

5.945.658

+37

8

11

Max und die Wilde 7

22.822

462

49

100.779

771.428

+199

5

12

Golda

21.453

104

206

25.403

245.805

-

1

13

Late Night with the Devil

16.268

213

76

23.078

211.559

-

1

14

May December

15.713

138

114

23.338

198.011

-

1

15

Sterben

12.764

250

51

163.356

1.779.068

+4

6

Thanks to enduring rains, the weekend went a lot better than the last one but still far from good. Family movies had extreme increases, and most other releases at least good increases with the sad exception of Furiosa which managed to drop from its already underwhelming OW. None of the openers made it into the Top10.

In Austria, once more, most releases a bit better - Garfield >30k admissions (for the 3day WE), total is already >130k. The Fall Guy increased to a little over 10k and is on its way to well over 100k total, also much stronger than in Germany.

Next weekend: Bad Boys 4 will be the big opener; the last one was one of the last movies before the Covid lockdowns and made it to 1,8mil total back in '20 - with the current state of the German BO, this seems impossible to reach even under normal circumstances; add football into the mix and 1mil total seem like the sensible goal. Garfield should remain the nr1 choice for families but with weather turning sunnier once more, expect steep drops.

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8 minutes ago, Flip said:

First trend has Bad Boys doing 300k for the 5-day opening weekend


wow, this is one of the biggest opening weekends of the year in Germany, isn’t it?

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5 hours ago, leoh said:


wow, this is one of the biggest opening weekends of the year in Germany, isn’t it?

4th biggest of 2024 according to MarkG ... but with the current state of the Germany BO, this is saying little indeed. But at least one million total should be safe with this OW.

Otherwise, steep drops as expected; Garfield estimated at 100k, IF and Furiosa a bit over 50k.

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So a quite good start for BB4, that's nice and needed. I say "quite good" because I noticed that with ~ 300k admissions it's ca. in line with expectations.

 

And I slightly hope that the numbers of the family films will increase. Today it's mixed to good but it's predicted that the next two days become pretty bad in most regions weather-wise.

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Posted (edited)

The second trend from insidekino.de: 

 

No changes for the Top 3

#4 Furiosa 37.5k

#5 Planet of the Apes 30k

#6 The Fall Guy 25k 

...

The Watchers 22.5k

King's Land 22.5k

 

The weather is too good. Now they say that the next two weeks become pretty frustrating for summer (colder and not much sunshine) but today and partly tomorrow will be good so people will use these days.

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Germany's Top14 last weekend:

 

title

admissions

th.

PTA

total adm.

total €

drop

week

1

Bad Boys 4

254.255

607

419

297.610

3.377.980

-

1

2

Garfield

61.597

711

87

874.468

7.541.552

-71

5

3

IF

37.734

618

61

447.921

3.773.960

-74

4

4

Furiosa

31.475

636

49

275.496

3.251.321

-61

3

5

Planet of the Apes 4

29.729

494

60

552.769

6.356.682

-61

5

6

The Fall Guy

22.389

494

45

597.731

6.284.118

-68

6

7

The Watchers

19.282

366

53

20.217

208.988

-

1

8

Chantal im Märchenland

17.306

454

38

2.639.662

26.541.862

-67

11

9

King's Land

15.273

208

73

25.447

215.702

-

1

10

Tarot

15.108

330

46

170.846

1.786.722

-61

4

11

Challengers

10.893

286

38

341.855

3.451.086

-62

7

12

Golda

10.723

123

87

43.975

426.828

-50

2

13

Kung Fu Panda 4

9.018

393

23

1.751.078

15.985.587

-71

13

14

Back to Black

8.773

340

26

588.285

6.036.233

-64

9

Horrible drops across the chart but Bad Boys 4 opened within expectations and saved the weekend a bit (the only one with a decent PTA, still, what a drop from Bad Boys 3 which opened to about 440k …)

In Austria, similar numbers with BB4 opening a bit (but not much, 38k after Sunday) better.

Next weekend: The big opener will be Inside Out 2. The first on made it to about 3,5mil admissions total but with the current state of the Germany BO, 3mil total seem impossible - still, with weather a bit rainy in many regions for most of the time, we're in for a fine weekend  at least for family films and a strong new #1! For many other releases, football will be the big competition starting this weekend … BO will enter hibernation mode in the evenings.

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FSS prediction is 560k, full opening is 650k, and Mark is predicting 3.5m final admits, which would be great. Hopefully the weekend is higher though, because that would actually be a drop of 80k admits from IO’s OW 

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41 minutes ago, Flip said:

FSS prediction is 560k, full opening is 650k, and Mark is predicting 3.5m final admits, which would be great. Hopefully the weekend is higher though, because that would actually be a drop of 80k admits from IO’s OW 

I feel like a drop of 80k admits is acceptable when you consider that the EM starts this weekend.

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The first trend is 700k admissions for Inside Out 2. It would normally be 800k - 1.1M, but due to the weather/football it's lower.

Bad Boys 4 is 175k (225k-250k without the factors above)

Nothing else above 50k.

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On 6/13/2024 at 1:28 AM, Flip said:

FSS prediction is 560k, full opening is 650k, and Mark is predicting 3.5m final admits, which would be great. Hopefully the weekend is higher though, because that would actually be a drop of 80k admits from IO’s OW 

IO didn't make 640k FSS, it had a 4-day OW

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We won't get an accurate second trend today from insidekino.de due to the football EM - Mark_G thinks that would be pure guesswork. 

 

#1 Inside Out 2 is still listed with 700k admissions today 

#2 BB4 had in the first trend 175k admissions (without the EM it would have been ~ 225-250k according to insidekino.de/542.5k total admissions (with 175k admissions on this weekend).

 

Mark_G also says that the family films saw nice jumps yesterday compared to their admission numbers on Thursday and that the other films stayed more or less flat compared to Thursday. 

Tomorrow we will get a trend.

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Curious to see IO2's run here in the coming weeks since normally theaters are deader than Olaf Scholz' popularity levels when a major football tournament is going on.

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25 minutes ago, Brainbug said:

Curious to see IO2's run here in the coming weeks since normally theaters are deader than Olaf Scholz' popularity levels when a major football tournament is going on.

I'd say family releases depend more on favourable weather ... IO2 is of course targeting teenagers and YA rather than the usual family demo so it's really difficult to predict.

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The Sunday trend from insidekino.de:
1. Inside Out 2 825k (mark sees this as the worst case, up to 900k is possible depending on the weather)

2. Bad Boys - Ride or Die 150k

3. Garfield 55k

4. IF 25k

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