FantasticBeasts Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 I really appreciate how much effort you put on updating this thread! Congrats! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullbuster Posted December 29, 2016 Author Share Posted December 29, 2016 4 minutes ago, FantasticBeasts said: I really appreciate how much effort you put on updating this thread! Congrats! Thank you THat's not easy given there is no daily update so I do my best to help this thread existing. And I must say the current state of the Brazilian market is a bit frustrating : when I created it in 2012 it was a really promsing market with numbers that could be very impressive, Avengers and Twilight 2012 got such a crazy performance there with $61m and $25m, respectively, and I thought that even crazier numbers would be possible given the growth.... In local currency the market doesn't disappoint, it's definitely fantastic and fast-growing but the exchange rate changed so radically that the numbers in $ cannot go beyond $50m, if the ER was like 2012's 1 or 2 movies would be beyond $70m so it's a bit raging ahaha But I still believe in this market, I know it's temporary and that crazy numbers and performances await us in the medium term 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FantasticBeasts Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 3 minutes ago, Fullbuster said: Thank you THat's not easy given there is no daily update so I do my best to help this thread existing. And I must say the current state of the Brazilian market is a bit frustrating : when I created it in 2012 it was a really promsing market with numbers that could be very impressive, Avengers and Twilight 2012 got such a crazy performance there with $61m and $25m, respectively, and I thought that even crazier numbers would be possible given the growth.... In local currency the market doesn't disappoint, it's definitely fantastic and fast-growing but the exchange rate changed so radically that the numbers in $ cannot go beyond $50m, if the ER was like 2012's 1 or 2 movies would be beyond $70m so it's a bit raging ahaha But I still believe in this market, I know it's temporary and that crazy numbers and performances await us in the medium term I don't want to sound indiscreet but since you are from France what makes you so fond of Brazil? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullbuster Posted December 29, 2016 Author Share Posted December 29, 2016 1 minute ago, FantasticBeasts said: I don't want to sound indiscreet but since you are from France what makes you so fond of Brazil? That's not really about Brazil, I love impressive numbers, box office, data and I wanted to follow a fast-growing market, having my own thread about one of those big, promising markets where records are broken each year. Brazil is definitely promising thanks to a population beyond 200 million inhabitants, quite young and much room to grow, so I know it was a "blue chip" as you could say so I chose it. That's also why I'm learning Brazilian Portuguese because I want to work in international trade and I wanted to know a language from a new, emerging market but one I could learn pretty fast so...Sure, I didn't expect Brazil to be in such a crisis with so many problems but it's still promising on the long run. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullbuster Posted December 29, 2016 Author Share Posted December 29, 2016 (edited) Box Office Brazil Top All-Time in US DollarsTitanic (+Titanic 3D) : 75.6m The Avengers : 63.9m Tropa de Elite 2 : 62.9m Avatar : 58m Twilight BD2 : 54.2m Iron Man 3 : 47.9m The Avengers Age of Ultron : 47.85m Furious 7 : 46.6m Ice Age 3 : 45.4m Ice Age 4 : 44.5m Captain America Civil War : 40.5m Shrek 4 : 40m Batman vs Superman : 37.6m Minions : 37.5m Suicide Squad : 36.6m Harry Potter DH2 : 35.7m Despicable Me 2 : 35.5m Finding Dory : 34.5m Rio : 33.6m Maleficent : 33.2m I turned it into a top 20 Edited December 29, 2016 by Fullbuster 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
titanic2187 Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 21 minutes ago, Fullbuster said: Box Office Brazil Top All-Time in US DollarsTitanic (+Titanic 3D) : 70.5m The Avengers : 63.9m Tropa de Elite 2 : 62.9m Avatar : 58m Twilight BD2 : 54.2m Iron Man 3 : 47.9m The Avengers Age of Ultron : 47.85m Furious 7 : 46.6m Ice Age 3 : 45.4m Ice Age 4 : 44.5m Captain America Civil War : 40.5m Shrek 4 : 40m Batman vs Superman : 37.6m Minions : 37.5m Suicide Squad : 36.6m Harry Potter DH2 : 35.7m Despicable Me 2 : 35.5m Finding Dory : 34.5m Rio : 33.6m Maleficent : 33.2m I turned it into a top 20 titanic 1997 was 70.5 m while 2012 3d version earned another 5.1m, i suppose the combined figure would be $75.6m instead of 70.5m 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullbuster Posted December 29, 2016 Author Share Posted December 29, 2016 (edited) 4 minutes ago, titanic2187 said: titanic 1997 was 70.5 m while 2012 3d version earned another 5.1m, i suppose the combined figure would be $75.6m instead of 70.5m BOM already mixed Titanic 3D to Titanic 1997. Titanic 97 grossed $1.6B WW but you can see it's $2.1B now, meaning they added Titanic 3D numbers. My numbers seem to be the good ones, that's why I added "+Titanic 3D" Edited December 29, 2016 by Fullbuster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
titanic2187 Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 January 2017 would be tough to surpass 2015 or 2016, 2015 we had american sniper that went crazy and 2016 we had the strong post-hold from SW7, rogue one would be hard to match that 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
titanic2187 Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 1 minute ago, Fullbuster said: BOM already mixed Titanic 3D to Titanic 1997. Titanic 97 grossed $1.6B WW but you can see it's $2.1B now, meaning they added Titanic 3D numbers. My numbers seem to be the good ones, that's why I added "+Titanic 3D" no, they did not, the $70.5m is solely for '97 run while 3D version BOM put it under titanic 3D BOM only added both run in the sum for foreign total figure, but for respective country, they still separate the figure for different run. Like China,$44m was just from titanic original run while 145m was from 3D run, total up to $189m 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullbuster Posted December 29, 2016 Author Share Posted December 29, 2016 1 minute ago, titanic2187 said: no, they did not, the $70.5m is solely for '97 run while 3D version BOM put it under titanic 3D BOM only added both run in the sum for foreign total figure, but for respective country, they still separate the figure for different run. Like China,$44m was just from titanic original run while 145m was from 3D run, total up to $189m Oh That wasn't a very logical move from BOM, they shouldn't mix them like they did for the WW numbers and foreign numbers. Thank you for that, I'm going to correct this 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peludo Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 35 minutes ago, Fullbuster said: Box Office Brazil Top All-Time in US DollarsTitanic (+Titanic 3D) : 70.5m The Avengers : 63.9m Tropa de Elite 2 : 62.9m Avatar : 58m Twilight BD2 : 54.2m Iron Man 3 : 47.9m The Avengers Age of Ultron : 47.85m Furious 7 : 46.6m Ice Age 3 : 45.4m Ice Age 4 : 44.5m Captain America Civil War : 40.5m Shrek 4 : 40m Batman vs Superman : 37.6m Minions : 37.5m Suicide Squad : 36.6m Harry Potter DH2 : 35.7m Despicable Me 2 : 35.5m Finding Dory : 34.5m Rio : 33.6m Maleficent : 33.2m I turned it into a top 20 Do you have a list like this but in local currency? I see it more interesting since it gives a more real perception because of ER changes. Thank you in advance 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullbuster Posted December 29, 2016 Author Share Posted December 29, 2016 4 minutes ago, peludo said: Do you have a list like this but in local currency? I see it more interesting since it gives a more real perception because of ER changes. Thank you in advance Sure You're right to ask for it, the ER has fluctuated so wildly that they are way more meaningful Box Office Brazil Top All-Time in Brazilian Reais (local currency) The Avengers 2 : R$146.2m Captain America Civil War : 143.5m Furious 7 : 142.5m Batman vs Superman : 132.5m The Avengers : 129.6m Minions : 120m Suicide Squad : 118m Os Dez Mandamentos The Movie : 116.4m Finding Dory : 113.4m Star Wars The Force Awakens : 110.9m As you can see it's really different from the top in USD. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peludo Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 Just now, Fullbuster said: Sure You're right to ask for it, the ER has fluctuated so wildly that they are way more meaningful Box Office Brazil Top All-Time in Brazilian Reais (local currency) The Avengers 2 : R$146.2m Captain America Civil War : 143.5m Furious 7 : 142.5m Batman vs Superman : 132.5m The Avengers : 129.6m Minions : 120m Suicide Squad : 118m Os Dez Mandamentos The Movie : 116.4m Finding Dory : 113.4m Star Wars The Force Awakens : 110.9m As you can see it's really different from the top in USD. Thank you very much This chart shows how much is increasing the market. Every film, excepting TA, are from 2015-2016 period. For example, in China happens exactly the same. Among the current top 10 in local currency, there is just one film previous to 2015. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
titanic2187 Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 3 minutes ago, peludo said: Thank you very much This chart shows how much is increasing the market. Every film, excepting TA, are from 2015-2016 period. For example, in China happens exactly the same. Among the current top 10 in local currency, there is just one film previous to 2015. that make me thinking like, am i looking at the yearly top movie or all time.......... when i clicked in the data, mostly are from 2015/2016 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullbuster Posted December 29, 2016 Author Share Posted December 29, 2016 1 hour ago, peludo said: Thank you very much This chart shows how much is increasing the market. Every film, excepting TA, are from 2015-2016 period. For example, in China happens exactly the same. Among the current top 10 in local currency, there is just one film previous to 2015. Yep, it's an impressive growth in local currency : +10% in 2015 and +12% in 2016. Several 2017 movies are likely to reach the top 10 all-time, it's even obvious for Furious 8 and Justice League and surprises are likely : nobody thought Suicide Squad and Finding Dory would reach the top 10 this year 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullbuster Posted December 29, 2016 Author Share Posted December 29, 2016 4 hours ago, titanic2187 said: January 2017 would be tough to surpass 2015 or 2016, 2015 we had american sniper that went crazy and 2016 we had the strong post-hold from SW7, rogue one would be hard to match that 2 I guess you're talking about DOM right? American Sniper wasn't big in Brazil, but January was strong for sure, still I think January should be good enough in Brazil in 2017. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
titanic2187 Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 1 hour ago, Fullbuster said: I guess you're talking about DOM right? American Sniper wasn't big in Brazil, but January was strong for sure, still I think January should be good enough in Brazil in 2017. ya, my mistake to post at wrong thread Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullbuster Posted December 29, 2016 Author Share Posted December 29, 2016 31 minutes ago, titanic2187 said: ya, my mistake to post at wrong thread No problem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullbuster Posted December 29, 2016 Author Share Posted December 29, 2016 COMICBOOK MOVIES IN US DOLLARS The Avengers : $63.9m Iron Man 3 : $47.874m The Avengers Age of Ultron : $47.862m Captain America Civil War : $40.5m Batman vs Superman : $37.6m Suicide Squad : $36.5m The Amazing Spider-Man : $30.4m X-Men Days of Future Past $28.8m Captain America The Winter Soldier : $28.3m Thor The Dark World : $27.8m The Dark Knight Rises The Amazing Spider-Man 2 : $24.9m Doctor Strange : $22.6m The Wolverine : $21.4m Captain America The First Avenger : $20.7m Deadpool : $20.6m X-Men Apocalypse : $20.55m The Dark Knight : $20.2m Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 2014 : $19.2m Guardians of the Galaxy : $16.8m Man of Steel : $16m Iron Man 2 $15.8m I added Doctor Strange 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullbuster Posted December 29, 2016 Author Share Posted December 29, 2016 (edited) COMICBOOK MOVIES IN BRAZIL IN LOCAL CURRENCY (BRAZILIAN REAL = R$) The Avengers Age of Ultron : R$146.1 million Captain America Civil War : 143.1m Batman vs Superman : 132.4m The Avengers : 130.1m Suicide Squad : 118m Iron Man 3 : 96.9m Deadpool: 81.9m Doctor Strange : 75.6m X-Men Days of Future Past : 64.3m Thor 2 : 63.7m Captain America The Winter Soldier : 63.2m The Amazing Spider-Man : 60.5m The Amazing Spider-Man 2 : 55.2m Batman the Dark Knight Rises : 55.1m The Wolverine : 49.1m Spider-Man 3 : 48.9m Spider-Man 2 : 48.2m Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 2014 : 43.5m Ant-Man : 41.8m Guardians of the Galaxy : 37.7m Man of Steel : 36.2m Captain America The First Avengers : 33.2m Batman The Dark Knight : 32.8m Thor : 28.9m Iron Man 2 : 28.4m Ghost Rider 2 : 27.9m The Incredibles : 27.8m X-Men Origin Wolverine : 27.3m X-Men First Class : 24.8m Iron Man : 33.4m X-Men 3 : 24.7m Hancock : 23.6m Superman Returns : 19.1m The Fantastic Four 2005 : 19.096m Constantine : 18.2m Batman Begins : 17.3m Ghost Rider : 14.8m The Incredible Hulk : 8.5m I added Doctor Strange that does much better in local currency. Edited December 30, 2016 by Fullbuster 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...