filmlover Posted February 20, 2023 Author Share Posted February 20, 2023 Just realized that if Cate wins this year and BCoop wins next year (Actor is clearly infatuated with biopic performances at this point) that would mean Lydia Tar would be handing the award over to Leonard Bernstein. Now I want that entire scenario to happen lmao. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoxOfficeFangrl Posted February 20, 2023 Share Posted February 20, 2023 (edited) 14 hours ago, filmlover said: I will never stop laughing if in the year where "movie theaters are back" is the main storyline they end up going with the Netflix feature for Best Picture (finally scoring the win the streamer has been long fighting for to no luck). I suspect Butler is taking SAG with ease now and that will lock him for the Oscar. Somewhere out there Taron Egerton is wondering how he ended up not even nominated for his biopic performance. Bassett is likely to still winning SAG since they're the organization that gave the first movie their top prize but Condon could be the spoiler. Keoghan ending up the winner would also be quite the turn of events. World War I has lingered culturally in the UK in a way it simply hasn't in the US, so it's not that surprising to me that AQotWF cleaned up at BAFTA. I had no hope for EEAAO there, it's more of a US phenomenon, but I was expecting even more for Banshees, especially Farrell. I discounted how the Brits like music movies a lot, and that the UK was one of the non-US places where Elvis Presley was a big deal in his lifetime. So, a hit Elvis biopic performance would also be catnip to BAFTA voters. I suspect Rocketman being a proper musical hurt it with general audiences and the musician biopic voters. The plebs expected/hoped for Bohemian Rhapsody but with Elton John, and they got the "wrong" characters singing sometimes and people floating in the air, all with an R rating. Too much dissonance for your basic voter, who just wants to see reenactments of the hits they already know. And Rocketman was probably not avant garde enough for the voters who don't care for traditional music biopics... I think Bassett is hurt by Wakanda Forever not being a Best Picture nominee. It doesn't always matter with the Actress categories, but some voters will dismiss an MCU performance out of hand compared to movie more grounded in reality, and not everyone will even see it. Back in the day, a lot of Honest Ballot types said they didn't even watch Still Alice but voted for Julianne Moore anyway, but that was about Alzheimer's disease. Edited February 20, 2023 by BoxOfficeFangrl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoolioD1 Posted February 20, 2023 Share Posted February 20, 2023 everything everywhere, daniels, austin butler, cate blanchett, quan all seem like done deal wins to me. Only toss up in the big categories is bassett or condon in supporting actress. Kinda want Condon just to see what that one guy here who keeps using Bassett's impending Oscar win as an excuse for why the current MCU reception is fine actually would say. 4 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
titanic2187 Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 On 2/20/2023 at 12:02 PM, filmlover said: I will never stop laughing if in the year where "movie theaters are back" is the main storyline they end up going with the Netflix feature for Best Picture (finally scoring the win the streamer has been long fighting for to no luck). I suspect Butler is taking SAG with ease now and that will lock him for the Oscar. Somewhere out there Taron Egerton is wondering how he ended up not even nominated for his biopic performance. Given the track record of BAFTA where they only got 3 matches with Oscar (Argo, 12 years a slave and Nomadland) in the past decade, I would say EEAAO stand a bigger chance at the Oscar statistically by not wining the BAFTA. I still think EEAAO will prevail at the Oscar which I would consider one of the most coolest winner in recent memory beside silence of the Lambs, LOTR3, Parasite. As for why Taron was snubbed, I believe this has something to do to the fact that he was playing Elton John who is still alive. Also, BO factor is clearly in play here when Rocketman was not a big hit in pre-Covid era but Elvis is a big hit given the context in post-Covid era. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptNathanBrittles Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 It would be pretty embarrassing for the American film industry if they awarded Best Picture to an inferior German remake of an American classic that won in 1930. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
interiorgatordecorator Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 women talking out on pvod if anyone wants to catch it 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoxOfficeFangrl Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 (edited) Quote “We have a whole crisis team, something we’ve never had before, and many plans in place,” Kramer said. “We’ve run many scenarios. So it is our hope that we will be prepared for anything that we may not anticipate right now but that we’re planning for just in case it does happen.” “Because of [the slap] last year, we’ve opened our minds to the many things that can happen at the Oscars,” Kramer continued. “But these crisis plans — the crisis communication teams and structures we have in place — allow us to say this is the group that we have to gather very quickly. This is how we all come together. This is the spokesperson. This will be the statement. And obviously depending on the specifics of the crisis, and let’s hope something doesn’t happen and we never have to use these, but we already have frameworks in place that we can modify.” So, this "crisis team" gets together and...comes up with hypothetical nightmare Oscar scenarios? Do they get people to practice them during the ceremony rehearsal the day before? Is there going to be extra stage security so no one tries rushing the podium? Trained snipers in the balconies? All this because security didn't just immediately escort Will Smith from the building last year... Edited February 23, 2023 by BoxOfficeFangrl 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoolioD1 Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 wanna see Austin Butler get tasered when he rushes the stage after one too many elvis voice jokes. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morieris Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 (edited) How many seat fillers are going to be undercover agents ready to spring into action at the first sign of, I don't know, a tasteless joke? My first thought was "Why did they not do this after 2017 (?)," but then I remembered they don't actually double check PWC's accounting envelopes until they're opened and read. Edited February 23, 2023 by Morieris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoxOfficeFangrl Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 1 hour ago, Morieris said: How many seat fillers are going to be undercover agents ready to spring into action at the first sign of, I don't know, a tasteless joke? My first thought was "Why did they not do this after 2017 (?)," but then I remembered they don't actually double check PWC's accounting envelopes until they're opened and read. The accountants used to give interviews before the ceremony, they talked about memorizing all the winners and said they would immediately correct it if the wrong winner was announced. Here's a news story from 2010 that mentions the process: Some details are different now (all the voting happens online today), but that's the gist. The accountants just got too comfortable in their roles and froze when the La La Land/Moonlight snafu happened. The accountant who gave the wrong envelope, because He Had One Job and failed badly, and the other one probably because it was Best Picture, the biggest category of the night. If someone had said the wrong Production Design winner, that might have been less intimidating to go on stage and correct. But because of that infamous ending being relatively recent history, everyone at an awards show is on guard for a mistake like that happening again. So, I guess the point of an Awards Show Crisis Team is to be decisive in the case of an Oscars emergency, whatever that means. There's been security at the Oscars for years, but it was probably more about securing the building from bombs/guns and not so much bouncer duties like breaking up fights or ejecting guests. You can't possibly think of all possibilities in advance. The next shocking Oscars thing will probably be entirely different than Envelope-gate or The Slap. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmlover Posted February 23, 2023 Author Share Posted February 23, 2023 I wonder if they include "A Robert Opel" among these supposedly planned scenarios. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoxOfficeFangrl Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, filmlover said: I wonder if they include "A Robert Opel" among these supposedly planned scenarios. I really want to know whose duty it is to come up with these scenarios... Did AMPAS get the Screenwriting and Public Relations members to brainstorm ideas, or did they just hire Sunshine Sachs or someone like that? Maybe someone is taking actual Oscar happenings and imagining the alternate universe where it went sideways, like...what if someone who lost flips the bird to the camera, that enthusiastic acting winner actually blurts out that they're high on shrooms during their speech, or those Original Song performers get too caught up on stage and start humping on the piano bench? Because serious things like medical or weather emergencies or terrorist infiltration, I'm thinking those are to be handled by actual first responders, so the Oscars Crisis Team's job is...anticipating attendee misbehavior? It's not all that, AMPAS... Edited February 23, 2023 by BoxOfficeFangrl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grim22 Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 50 minutes ago, BoxOfficeFangrl said: I really want to know who's duty it is to come up with these scenarios... I used to do that when I did business resiliency. It is a lot of fun coming up with completely crazy edge case scenarios. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmlover Posted February 23, 2023 Author Share Posted February 23, 2023 Annnddd we finally have a piece of ceremony news. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOVIEGUY Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 14 hours ago, BoxOfficeFangrl said: I really want to know whose duty it is to come up with these scenarios... Only one man for the job. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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George Parr Posted February 24, 2023 Share Posted February 24, 2023 On 2/21/2023 at 8:27 PM, CaptNathanBrittles said: It would be pretty embarrassing for the American film industry if they awarded Best Picture to an inferior German remake of an American classic that won in 1930. It's not a remake of an American classic, it is an adaption of a German book. Both movies being an adaption of said book doesn't make the newer movie a remake of the older one. Or would you consider Peter Jackson's Lord of the Rings movies to be a remake of the 1978 animated movie? Not that there would be anything embarrassing about it regardless of the circumstances. Every year is different. Even if the new All Quiet on the Western Front were no match for the old one - which is up to debate and not a fact - it winning Best Picture would say nothing about the state of the American film industry. All it would really say, is that the majority of voters thought the output of the American film industry over the last year was not as good as this particular movie. It doesn't even give you a clue what they would say about the movie when compared to the movies of 2021 or 2023. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmlover Posted February 26, 2023 Author Share Posted February 26, 2023 Everything Everywhere wins PGA. Assume this week we'll be getting a whole bunch of ceremony announcements because we're two weeks away from the big night and there's usually about 40 presenters (none of which have been announced yet surprisingly, wondering if they're having difficulty securing names following Slapgate). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grim22 Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 EEAAO sweeping at SAG and looks like Best actor is officially between Austin Butler and Brendan Fraser. Angela Bassett hasn't actually won any industry awards. Kerry Condon won at BAFTA and JLC at SAG. If the Oscars is a EEAAO sweep, JLC might be carried through in that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
interiorgatordecorator Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 Basset is no longer "locked", thats good, but an EEAAO sweep would be just as dreadful Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
